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Railroading Rifqa
Pamela Geller, of Atlas Shrugs, continues her important work in raising awareness of the railroading of 17 year old Rifqa Bary, the ex-muslim christian convert who left her Ohio home in fear for her life (Rifqa has compelling evidence that her devout muslim parents would murder her in the name of an “honor killing.”) Rifqa is in a Kafkaesque world where the state may turn her over to her parents, against her wishes, to what she believes would be her certain death.
My2Cents
October 28th, 2009
The Florida court ruled that she shall be denied food and water until….oh wait. That was Terry Shaivo.
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shootersgrandma
October 28th, 2009
If this dear girl can drag the courts out for another year, she may not have to listen to what her parents say at all.
I wish I was so lucky. No court in the world back in the seventies would dare judge against my worthless parents.
I share concern for her. It is Islamic law that she die for confessing a Christian faith. How else can her parents be upstanding within their beliefs? Although they may have no desire to do such a thing, there is still the religious law that penetrates fear into every bone in this girl’s body.
Fight, girl, fight. Fight until the law is finally in your favor.
In the meantime, make sure your parents have presented the documents that state they have the right to reside in the United States.
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BigFurHat
October 28th, 2009
I’d like to chime in with a tangential issue, but it must be discussed.
The once mighty Charles Johnson, of Little green Footballs, has, with each passing day, become an exponentially growing douchebag. I’m not one that is big on boycotts, but if ever there was a guy who needs to be ignored, it’s Johnson.
He has been giving hell to Pamela Geller, who is clearly on the correct side of this issue, for obvious reasons – Geller is championing the rights of a 17 year old girl who simply does not want to go back to a life she fears. Even if those fears are unfounded, they must be respected. If she had an irrational fear that her parent’s house was going to eat her, she, at the very least would be hospitalized. Therapy for someone who fears snakes would not be to throw her into a snake pit.
Johnson’s opinion begins and ends with this: Rifqa is with CRAZY Christians, and should be returned to the reasonable Muslims.
If the religions were reversed in this story, Johnson’s opinion would be reversed. Johnson is an asshat.
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My2Cents
October 28th, 2009
***Johnson’s opinion begins and ends with this: Rifqa is with CRAZY Christians***
There’s no difference between what these “crazy” Christians are doing and what Casper Ten Boom, Corrie Ten Boom’s father, did in Holland during WW2 in providing hiding and protection for Jews. Tragic that our courts are so eager to side with today’s Nazis.
My2Cents
October 28th, 2009
Disclaimer: I hate playing the “Nazi” card. It’s value was depreciated by the left during the Bush years. But despite its over-use, sometimes it actually fits a situation.
Elektracutie
October 29th, 2009
God keep that poor girl safe.
Isn’t she already old enough to drive and get her own apartment at that age? Why keep messing with her?
BigFurHat
October 29th, 2009
Because the statists have to save people from the crazy Christians.
I say this as a completely secular person.
But see,
I don’t arrive at my secularity out of bigotry, like Charles
Johnson. I am disinterested in organized religion. But I’m not so dumb that I can be reeled in by the lip to distort my disinterest into fear and hatred, like Johnson accuses other’s of doing in regards to Muslim’s.
Christian bashing is a dumb sport played by dumb people.
Again, I am convinced that if Rifqa was a Christian who converted to Islam and ran away to Florida to live with Muslims (because she believed her parents wanted to kill her), Johnson (and I think this is a perfect name for this dick) would be screaming from the rooftops that this girl needs to be saved from the scary, evil Christians. I am POSITIVE of this. I think his ponytail is pulled too tight.
Think of the amount of flight Christianity has endured the last 40 years. When I was a kid, churches were full on Sunday. Not anymore. Pop culture 40 years ago did not disrespect or ridicule the church as it does now. And how has the church responded to this decline in sway? With beheadings? With anger? With protests? With Jihad?
No. Don’t give me this BS that Christians are dangerous. These morons equate hearing community church bells with beheadings. They equate a dissatisfaction with modern morality and a refusal to yield to emotional victimization with flying planes into buildings.
It’s laughable.
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cfm990
October 29th, 2009
I know the only reason I tune into a Billy Graham event is to see the beheadings and stonings.
This poor child faces death if returned to her family. This crusade, by the statests, to wrest this child from one religion and return her to another would be laughable were the potential ending not so tragic.
1MadJack
October 29th, 2009
It amazes me that anyone in their right mind believes the religion of Islam is not a religion of death and hate. If all of us here in America don’t wake up to this fact these insane islamo-jihadists are going to take over.
Boobie The Rocket Dog
October 29th, 2009
Seen the pic of Riqfa’s brother? Nasty. He’d be the one to do the deed if he had the chance.
This could be Obama’s Elian Gonzalez moment.
I’d advise Riqfa to to seek effective sanctuary and hide until next August when she turns eighteen. That’s what the judge should have done for her.
Reiuxcat
October 29th, 2009
Imagine that Rifqa was pregnant and hiding from her Christian family who won’t let her get an abortion. Does anyone here believe that the judge would return her to her home before Planned Parenthood got her that government paid for procedure?
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rebecca83095
October 29th, 2009
My heart aches to read these posts, first because I agree with each of them and second, they are a red flag telling of the slippery slope this country is on right now. America used to be a sanctuary of freedom for all people, and anyone coming here was willing, eager and proud to wear the mantle of our history, our culture and our unique liberty. Now, we have grown as soft and addled-minded as some parts of Europe. Our courts have opened the doors to Sharia law, international law and the “PC” among us have distorted legislature and the Constitution. I, too, fear for this woman and hope she seeks refuge until she is of age. I live in Florida and regret that the courts here could not find a way to keep Rifqa in this state – now it’s up to Ohio. She has my prayers.
Tim
October 29th, 2009
Just when I think the world can’t get more absurd …
I left my parent’s home at 17 – everybody was happy.
My2Cents
October 29th, 2009
Rebecca, and others…Let me out myself. I am a Christian (gasp!) — and Mr. Hat, I too am not a big fan of religion, but that’s a topic for another day.
I take my faith seriously. Christians are admonished to pray for the ruling authorities, not so that we can cram our *narrow* moral views down the throats of the general populace (here I strongly disagree with my moralistic statist brothers and sisters), but in order that we might all lead a tranquil and quiet life…unmolested by the state, IMO. (Look it up: 1 Timothy 2:1-2)
On election night, 2000, my wife and I determined that we hadn’t been praying enough for our leaders, and called a prayer meeting to gather in our home, which occurred every evening until the U.S. Supreme Ct. put an end to Sore-Loserman. We had as many as 16 people at a meeting, as few as two, during that 30-some-odd days of prayer.
After the election was settled, my wife and I continued to meet with another couple once a week for prayer for our nation and leaders, and have so met for the past 9 years.
And after 9 years of prayer about leaders and issues and the state of the world, here’s my take: Many Christians are concerned about the condition of our society and culture. Those who are politically active want to prevent the US from careening full speed over a cliff and down into an abyss. My take is that it’s too late — our country is already over the precipice and going down into the abyss. Stories like this one, about Rifka, and the insane response of our courts, and blathering pundits like Mr. Johnson, inclines me to believe this nation is plunging into deep spiritual darkness. And the fact that a year ago, people elected a *false messiah* to the presidency on the basis of “hope” (something only God gives, IMO), tells me we are way off course as a nation. Politics has become many people’s religion (even many people on the right), the state has become god, political ideology their creed and dogma, and politicians their priesthood (or savior, in regard to BHO).
But I’m not nihilistic about it. I’m also a student of revivals over the course of 2000 years of western history, similar to what the colonies and England experienced in the 1740s, and I know the nation can be pulled out of the abyss. But our problems are not primarily political, they’re spiritual. It is possible, but it’s a matter of if, and when, we are turned around as a nation. Frankly, I don’t believe it will be any time soon.
Call me Lennie
October 29th, 2009
What this boils down to is that this is America’s first incidence of court ordered capital punishment for being a Christian. That’s what this is.
If Rifqa had appeared nude in Playboy or had an abortion or a child ‘out of wedlock” the court would have found some way to protect her.
Sicktoy
October 29th, 2009
Outside of Dallas around New Years of 2008, two Muslim teenage sisters were shot and left for dead in their father’s taxi. Supposedly he had threatened to kill them because they had “boyfriends.” He still has not been found. I can’t imagine being afraid that my parents would kill me. I know we’ve all said something like “my folks will kill me if I come in late” but to REALLY be afraid they would MURDER you? I can’t imagine living with this kind of fear – and no one willing to step up and do the tough stuff and make sure she is protected and safe? Everything is crazy! I’ll out myself too – I’m a Christian AND a Baptist! And according to Chris Matthews that makes me the next best thing to the Taliban….
rebecca83095
October 29th, 2009
My2Cents: I am a born-again, too, I think though that you must be far more disciplined and devout that I, which is very admirable. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you wrote, especially this last:
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We can’t expect blessings from God if we have turned our backs to Him.
Thank you (and Sicktoy) for posting.
rebecca83095
October 29th, 2009
But our problems are not primarily political, they’re spiritual. It is possible, but it’s a matter of if, and when, we are turned around as a nation. Frankly, I don’t believe it will be any time soon.
This got deleted from my post……whoops.
My2Cents
October 29th, 2009
Thank you, Rebecca, for your comments. I don’t know how disciplined or devout I am (LOL…the thought makes me laugh). I do know that by the grace of God I don’t have to think too highly about myself, and have been given the gift of finding humor in all the absurdity of our world. Thank God (yes, Him!) for IOTW, which I stumbled upon only a couple of weeks ago. It’s twisted and often ribald humor tickles my funnybone, and if we can’t laugh at and make fun of our would-be puppet masters, we are truly lost.
***Everything is crazy! I’ll out myself too – I’m a Christian AND a Baptist! And according to Chris Matthews that makes me the next best thing to the Taliban…. ***
Sicktoy, to the leftist mind (a true oxymoron if ever there was one), good is “evil,” right is “wrong,” up is “down,” and Christians are “worse than the Taliban.” But, Jesus promised the world would hate us, so I guess we should feel honored.
Sicktoy
October 29th, 2009
My2cents: Well said! I now count on IOTW to lower my blood pressure, eliminate feelings of isolation, make me laugh (alot), and restore my sanity! The twisted humor is excellent…uh oh, I’m repeating myself…I’m on the verge of a kleenex moment.
Tim
October 29th, 2009
I’ll have to check my Koran, but I think all Moslems have a duty to kill an apostate. Not just her parents – they’d do it to maintain their “honor.”
Matt the right wing extremist
October 29th, 2009
What I do not understand (as a Christian,which I am)
Why are all Christians loonie but the only Muslims that are nuts died in plane crashes George Bush ordered 8 years ago?
BigFurHat
October 29th, 2009
I just would like to say that it’s refreshing to not have to explain myself, that devout Christians know the difference between being secular and uninterested in organized religion and someone who is an enemy of their FAITH. I am not an enemy of their FAITH. I am in fact a champion of their FAITH. There are specific circumstances that have moved me away from organized religion – far different than the likes of a Bill Maher, a reprehensible homunculus.
My2Cents
October 29th, 2009
I would think a Bill Maher would move people TO God, if you know what I mean.
I’m impressed with the intelligence of the people who run and who visit this site (I’m also impressed with everyone’s sophmoric humor), and that when the discussion gets down to serious topics, we can be adults about it.
Reiuxcat
October 29th, 2009
@my2cents I know you are but what am I?
(with hiney being AWOL, and I hope soon to be apprehended, I had to respond to this outrageous claim of sophmoric humor. Hmph! How dare this man rate us so high!)
Sicktoy
October 30th, 2009
@BigFur: I had to look up homunculus…..yikes (shiver) but somehow seems fitting for Bill…
Tim
November 1st, 2009
My goodness, Sicktoy, how long has it been since you read Goethe?