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Go proselytize in Saudi Arabia, trailblazer.

A permanant victim requires a permanant oppressor.

Gee, I wonder if the fact that huge numbers of people in Uganda died of AIDS has anything to do with the hostility to homosexuality. or how about the fact that a return to traditional sexual morality under the auspices of Christianity saved Uganda from annihilation by the HIV virus.

What Uganda and the rest of Africa demonstrates is why there were taboos against liberine sexual activity in the first damn place; because it can wreck havoc in a society without an advanced health care system.

Good luck libtard in trying to introduce liberal attitudes about sex into Uganda. They’ve already tried it and it killed millions of them. Try talking to them about the dangers of DDT while you’re at it

I’m sure he means well, but I don’t see him going to any MUSLIM nations and making claims about being gay…

So our hero has to go all the way to Uganda to find Citizens of a Christian nation who think homosexuals should be jailed or worse put to death.

I wonder where he would go to find people who oppose Judeo-Christian traditions (like circumcision) and work diligently to undermind this basic building block of civil society? I imagine he could find subjects right down the block from where he calls home.

I’ll just wait for Jim Hlavac to make death threats and tell me what to think before I say anything.

So let me get this straight, Big — any attempt by gay folks to convince people that we are not some horror is wrong. Because to try to convince anyone to change their minds is “hypocrisy” and “indoctrination.” So what on earth is anyone here trying to do with liberals? Aren’t you trying to change people’s minds? Why are you thus trying to indoctrinate them, which is what you are doing by your logic, Big? But don’t you want to change minds? Yet, is all education “indoctrination” by your logic? Sure it is. Sounds awfully stupid if you ask me.

Furthermore, what on earth is anyone trying to do to “hypocritically” “indoctrinate” gay folks to be straight for? Why are you trying to indoctrinate me?

Still, shouldn’t we be trying to change say, oh, Muslim minds to stop being so nasty to Christians and Jews, and gays? Wouldn’t that too be indoctrination, by your logic here? Sure it would. Or are gays oh so special in your mind that we alone have no right to self-defense and seek decency? Seems so, and rather hypocritically at that.

Why, the whole point of this website is to change people’s minds, through education, and thus you say this is indoctrination. You are the weirdo here, Big.

As for the whole “procreation” argument — since only heteros procreate, and you are 95% of the population — and only 5% are gay — naturally so, why are you so worried? Or do you all know something about yourselves we gays can’t grasp? I’m so sure of my sexuality, my gayness, that I can come here day after day and argue with you — that only we are gay, and you are not — and yet you all are seemingly fearful that we are trying to make you gay, which we are most definitely not trying to do.

You are weird people, and rather hypocritically trying to indoctrinate me to be straight and kiss the girl of your dreams. So stop it, and follow your own advice — and don’t educate, don’t indoctrinate and don’t try to change minds. And in which case you lose your argument for trying to get liberals to give up their crazy socialist ways — which we must do or the nation is lost — for that’s what they know and believe — so why indoctrinate them?

And then everyone can stand around and just scream at each other to no avail. Indeed, any preacher is indoctrinating to get people to change their ways, no? Isn’t that the same indoctrination you now bewail? Sure it is.

Sorry, Big, your logic is lousy. You might be a great illustrator, a sarcastic man, and even a nice guy — but this shows you are a lousy thinker. Sorry to say it, but that disappoints me.

iOwnTheWorld is not trying to change Liberal’s minds. We’re trying to help those on the fence see that Socialism does not work, why it’s wrong to take someone’s hard earned money and redistribute it and promote true capitalism. We’re trying to win over the Independent, undecided mind but they must THINK FOR THEMSELVES, not be BRAINWASHED!
As for winning over Liberals? Ain’t gonna happen. Liberals are too far gone with an exceptional few that finally saw the light. David Mamet, Andrew Breitbart, Dennis Miller, Ron Silver, David Horowitz, etc…
As for “indoctrinating” Muslims? We’re not trying to INDOCTRINATE – we are trying to espouse TOLERANCE! That’s all.
Who said anything about trying to make YOU straight”? ROTFLMAO – there’s no logic in your arguments. – Mr. Pinko

And before anyone goes Bible on me – let me point out two things: 1) there are many different interpretations of the Bible, which is why there are some 1400 Christian Denominations, and four or five Jewish ways of looking at the Old Testament. And 2) the Bible is clear — women should not be on the hustings, only men — so why is any woman here on this blog, or any other, and why is Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann going counter to the Bible by being on the hustings.

Yep, lousy one way logic of a most socialist way — who would have thought this site is so craven for conformity when it suits your interest, and so abandoning of Biblical injunctions against women in politics.

Clean your own house first, get the mot out of your eye — let my people go — and let Liberty for All be the guiding light — for gays straights Jews and Christians and anyone else — or otherwise you are engaged in “hypocritical” “indoctrination.”

Yep, bizarre one sided one way logic you have — what is good for you is good, what is good for me is bad — or, in prosaic terms — heads you win, tails I lose. And all I can do is laugh my silly head off at the ribald self-righteousness and Jesus defying hypocrisy. Yeesh.

Jim, ‘Let my people go’ is God’s message to Pharaoh. Delivered by Moses. You profane that scripture by applying it to your gay identity politics. There’s your Bible lesson.

Read your Bible, Jim. You mat not like what’s stated there, but its meaning is clear.

@Jim,
You want something that can not be had. The total acceptance of a behavior that the vast majority of the peoples of the earth find repugnant. Be happy you live here where its tolerated. You and your fellow homosexuals are not being exterminated in the U.S.A. To even suggest that is asinine! If fighting to end the brutal oppression of homosexuals is your cause and calling? I suggest you go where people ARE exterminating homosexuals. Try any muslim nation.

@Jim: I hear your frustration and agree. Seriously – are the commenters here really only interested in sex because they want to PROCREATE??? Really?? No one interested in just a bit of….mmmmmmm…….pleasure (which does not exclude love for those ready to yell “hedonist” or “promiscuous”)???

And to say that homosexuality goes against the grain of God’s teachings, I would ask everyone the same thing I ask of Jehovah’s witnesses who come to my door: God certainly knew what he was doing when he created man and woman, right? So why did he place the male’s prostrate gland near the rectum (making penetration enjoyable) or the woman’s clit on the outside of her vagina? Hm? What was he thinking??

That said, I have to defend Big Fur. This is his blog. And no one should call anyone names here or argue in personally insulting ways. I understand your objection to his use of “indoctrination” (& agree with you) but still…we have to remain civil and present arguments, not insults (even tho I’ve seen enough commenters forget that…)

@ Chuck & Czar: Actually, some species turn to homosexuality in times of overpopulation and food shortages. That’s not nihilistic – it’s self-preservation! Other species also engage in homosexual sex for the seemingly heck of it. Nothing new, really.

Anonymous, where are you getting your information?

“The total acceptance of a behavior that the vast majority of the peoples of the earth find repugnant.”

Let me start by saying I DON’T CARE WHO YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKING. OK?

Now.

It would be NICE if Jim would stop hijacking every single thread- no matter what it is, he finds gay bashing or somehow finds it necessary to make it about HIMSELF. He could be the first one on a thread about nothing in particular and he’ll STILL find a way to make one of his bullshit comments.

He’s equally annoying on facebook. He hijacked not one, not two, but 3 of my threads that had absolutely NOTHING to do with gay straight or otherwise. Even my gay friends thought he was excessively dramatic and desperate as hell.
That’s right, Jim, I HAVE GAY FRIENDS. Have you fainted yet?????? And you know what? They don’t feel the NEED to mention it every 5 minutes. WEIRD, HUH? They just like being referred to as a PERSON. *ZOMG!*

And notice how Jim lumps EVERYONE into his dramas and insults them even when you AGREE with him?

And Beethovenqueen, you wonder why people get annoyed with him? I don’t give a shit who you or Jim are fucking. Maybe you’d have to have Jim send you a death threat or two before you get annoyed as well?

Whatever.

so the enlightened cultural gay white imperial elitist is going to go and educate the natives in deepest darkest Africa about the enlightened gay white man’s ways?

Whatever you think of homosexuality, you have to agree that Jim’s puling is never, ever going to change any minds. His hysterical name-calling hissy fits and complete lack of self-control are extremely entertaining, however. Impotent though they may be.

Rant away, Jim – i’m making popcorn.

No, stupid. I am reacting to this idiot on the video who sneers that the people have been taught not to accept homosexuality, so he is going to reteach them. Should we sneer if he succeeds? Should we just chalk up the acceptance of homosexuality to the teachings of the church of homosexuality?
Get it yet, shit for brains?
I made no judgment one way or the other on whether acceptance is right or wrong, just the logic of how this moron, and apparently you, think.
Why is teaching the acceptance of homosexuality immediately noble and right?
I’m tolerant of it.
And I’m tolerant of those who aren’t tolerant of it.
I think EYE have the moral high ground here, asshole.

Frankly Jim, you have jumped the shark (not fully, you stopped half way to bang it in case it hadn’t heard you shriek that you’re gay.)

I provided you with a forum, I even supported your agenda. But I no longer support your means.
You are NOT a good ambassador for gay rights. You’re a better one for having gays get their asses beat.

I should have banned you after you leveled death threats at the heteros, threats that included three e-mails to me where you said you were going to shoot me. All because I put up a graphic that had an unfortunate tag line made by the Virginia Tourist Center . Virginia Is For Lovers does not belong on a graphic with a man and a boy.
You went ballistic saying I was attacking gays.
Hmmm. You outed yourself there, Jim. I, and everyone else saw pedophilia, not homosexuality.
I think the tirade that followed was a smoke screen meant as a red herring because you realized your error.

I forgot to ban you.
This just reminded me.
Consider yourself banned after I allow you to get the final word.
I’m nice like that.

The way ppl treat each other here is a drag. I missed the death threats and am glad I did.

really like this blog but don’t like the anger, sarcasm, intolerance and refusal to even consider the opinions of others.

@Beethovenqueen

I think this blog has a kickass creative crew & a righteously funny and sharp crowd. It is a hoot. My kind of people…just sayin’

Beethovenqueen.
We DO consider the opinions of others and we joke, we’re sarcastic, we’re adorable assholes too.
The sensitive types can’t always hang here.
But it’s a huge internet filled with different blogs. Some mild, some rowdy, some catatnic… Go have at it. Or stick around. Whatever floats your boat. Did you get your feelings hurt because people disagreed with you? You know what? EVERYBODY has disagreed with EVERYBODY else here at one time. And yes, some have gotten a major butt hurt, and have gotten over it.
But no one said we want to ‘shoot people’ over it. Oh no wait.. JIM DID say that.

Which reminds me again, What people DON’T “tolerate” and never should, is death threats.

@uncharitable
“EVERYBODY has disagreed with EVERYBODY else here at one time…”

Right on brother…

Fur said:
you have jumped the shark (not fully, you stopped half way to bang it in case it hadn’t heard you shriek that you’re gay.)

sides hurting. can’t breath. bwahahahahahahha!

BTW. when you present your weakness (Jim’s “It’s all about meeeeeeee”) and constantly make an insufferable ASS of yourself on top of that… Guess what people go after first? Your weakness.
It’s how life is, people.

@Jim — we used to have intellectual exchanges, in which I always cautioned you against using blackmail tactics. Your previous argumens always ended with “if you conservatives want the gay vote you will support the gay lifestyle”. Told you then and I will tell you now that extortion is no way to win friends.

You have now crossed the line and I support BFH 1000% for blocking you from this site.

You just don’t get it when it comes to what is really necessary to get this country back on track. Special interests be damned — and that includes the GLBT garbage.

@beethovenqueen

Jim has been getting increasingly condescending and yes hysterical…And he did a paranoid rant about gays arming themselves to kill heteroes.

He seems to be fixated on BFH of late for not posting Jim’s concerns the way Jim would like…whatever…Jim has a serious case of blog envy & IOTW & BFH have been very patient & fair as far as I can see.
Probably why this blog has such a loyal gang…cause it’s UNPC & actually pretty darned clever & fair.

@Beethovenqueen

I made the unpopular choice of continually providing a forum for Jim, and lost readers because of it.
I did it because I believe that gays have every right to love who they want to, and I don’t care how they go about expressing the most intimate aspects of that love in the privacy of their own homes. I really, really do not care. It bores me.

I made Jim a judge in a contest. I referred to him as Our Gay Cousin. In other words, Jim was gonna be the iOTW guy who happened to be gay.

But JIM could not handle that role. He was not tolerant of others. Oh, he played along for awhile, until the day he wrote that he was going to get a gun and shoot breeders from his porch at random because Michele Bachmann, or something like that.
And then I put up a graphic about weird allusions to pedophilia and Jim e-mails me that he’s going to shoot me if he can find me.

I don’t recall anyone on iOTW saying they were going to kill homosexuals, and if they did they would be banned.

I tried a grand experiment, but the subject was Abby Normal.

I’ll try Nathan Lane. Everyone loves him and he manages to not wear I AM GAY on his sleeve, and he can discuss a topic without bobbing and weaving for the gay angle.

That is VERY off-putting.

What’s Jim gonna shoot us with? His pink, peter shaped popgun?

Silly Faggot, Dicks ARE FOR CHICKS!

You have every right to say what you said. It’s not a comment I would censor.
But, I don’t like it. I’m not saying that to dissuade you from making legal
comments in the future, and I’m not judging you.
But it seems to be edging towards real anger and abuse towards Jim for being gay.
Jim got banned for threatening violence because people were hetero.
I only ask that you don’t make it hard for me to not seem
hypocritical. -bfh

It has NOTHING to do with being gay. If some dude ALWAYS talked about cling peaches, no matter what the subject, I would roll my eyes if I saw them coming.
The subject we’re discussing, Jim, is boxing. __Cling peaches.

We’re going antiquing, Jim, you wanna come?
__ Cling peaches.

How about those Mets?
__ Cling peaches.

This is a MENTAL DISORDER.

Some idiot went all the way to Uganda to try and get them to accept gays?

All he had to do is send episodes of Will and Grace. Idiot!