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Baptiphobes
I coined the term. It describes the mental disorder in the following article.
From ABC NEWS
Wielding a blow-dryer, a leading atheist conducted a mass “de-baptism” of fellow non-believers and symbolically dried up the offending waters that were sprinkled on their foreheads as young children.
At the annual American Atheists Convention, one of atheism’s premier provocateurs, Edwin Kagin, faced the crowd and raised high a hairdryer labeled “Reason and Truth.”
Said one woman who travelled from Cincinnati to undergo the de-baptism, “I was baptized Catholic. I don’t remember any of it at all.” The woman, Cambridge Boxterman, 24, added, “According to my mother I screamed like a banshee, and those are her words, so you can see that even as a young child I didn’t want to be baptized. It’s not fair. I was born atheist and they were forcing me to become Catholic.”
Kagin, who is American Atheists’ national legal director, firmly believes that regardless of one’s religious beliefs, each person has the right to say or do what he or she wants, provided it is within the law. In the past, he has reportedly called out parents who subject their children to strict fundamentalist religious education, referring to it as child abuse.
“It is teaching children that the world works in other ways than it does,” he said. “This can be extremely dangerous.”
“They are practicing child abuse in teaching that the world operates in ways other than it does,” he told the convention crowd. “And in my opinion, they are engaged in terrorism by weakening our nation and our understanding of science and things with which we can defend ourselves and progress. If it had not been for these fools we could have been at the stars 2,000 years ago.”
Kagin, author of “Baubles of Blasphemy,” has a history of behaving in ways that elicit a rise from God-fearing people. He’s known to have asked female atheists to dress in burqas and perform a song, “Back in their Burquas Again,” he’s referred to Mary Magdalene as a deranged hooker and he’s called the Holy Eucharist “Swallow the Leader.”
Kagin said religion should not be used to determine how people ought to live their lives. “They’re doing harm to women who want to control their own bodies and their own reproductive rights,” he said. “They’re doing harm to a great number of people and they’re saying that ‘what we’re doing is sacred and inviolate. We can do whatever we want to your rights, and you can not react.’ That’s what they’re doing.”
Kagin: De-Baptism is ‘Spiritually Cleansing’
It is in this same spirit that Kagin performs the de-baptism.
Standing at a podium wearing a long brown monk’s robe, Kagin read with the oratorical skill of a preacher from a set of pages in his hand and invited participants to come forward to be de-baptized.
He recited a few mock-Latin syllables, to the audience’s amusement. An assistant produced a large hairdryer, labeled “Reason and Truth,” and handed it to Kagin. The man who’d elected himself to be de-baptized stood before him. Kagin turned on the hairdryer, blowing the hot air in his face in an attempt to symbolically dry up his baptismal waters.
“Come forward now and receive the spirit of hot air that taketh away the stigma and taketh away the remnants of the stain of baptismal water,” Kagin shouts.
Atheists poke fun at baptisms in this ceremony, saying they believe their waving around a hairdryer holds the same level of magical and spiritual powers as does the baptismal ceremony.
Kagin said that many people have undergone de-baptism.”Many have taken it as somewhat of a joke, but some have found it truly, if you will, a spiritually cleansing experience,” he said.
Kagin has said he doesn’t particularly care who he’s offending with his actions, and that he is acting completely within his rights. “You can mock anything you want because you have the right to,” he said. “Humor is humor and what types of humor are you going to outlaw?” he said.
He conceded that although it may not be good manners to continually take a mocking stance toward religion, “in many cases, it is the only real response.”
Kagin said he thought some people might get overly offended by his poking fun at religion. “If someone is so secure in their faith, why are they the least bit concerned about some little atheist mocking them?” he asked. “I think the reason they are worried and concerned is the very deep fear that if everyone doesn’t believe it, maybe it isn’t so.”
For Kagin, this struggle between godless and god-fearing hits very close to home: his son, Steve Kagin, is a fundamentalist minister in Kansas.
He founded Camp Quest, a secular summer camp for young nonbelievers, many of whom, he says, have been harrassed or hounded for their lack of faith.
I call bullshit. No one harasses people for their lack of faith People harass people who make asses of themselves by making a point to mock what they are supposedly not interested in. It’s not any different than gay bashing, and the theory that bashers are repressing homosexual tendencies. These people are repressing spiritual tendencies.
And then there’s this interesting twist. His own son, Steve Kagin, is a fundamentalist minister in Kansas.
Kagin said that his son claims to have a personal revelation in Jesus Christ. “I am totally unable to say that’s not true,” he said. “There are examples all through history of quite sane people who have had such experiences. I don’t think it is but I’m not going to say it isn’t.”
I was baptized. It’s meaningless to me. It doesn’t define me and I don’t remember it happening. If I were to make a show out of the “de-baptizing” I would be giving it the import that it doesn’t have for me. Obviously these people are wrapped up in this to such a degree that it’s more along the lines of a mental disorder than anything else.
Ridiculous.




1MadCrackerJack
July 17th, 2010
There is plenty of room in HELL!
Navy Squid
July 17th, 2010
Kagin???? Any relation, you think??
harbqll
July 17th, 2010
I’ve said for years now that almost everyone I’ve ever met who claims to be an atheist, isn’t. An “A-thiest” is someone without (a belief in) God. This asshole, and people like him who claim to be athiests are actually ANTI-thiests: those who are opposed to God.
I decided I was an athiest in my late teens. It never even occured to me to “unbaptize” myself. If you don’t believe in God/baptism/religion/whatever, then unbaptizing makes about as much sense as un-goblining your bedroom closet.
Every time I hear about some jack-ass like this, it makes me want to sue for false advertising. He’s not an athiest, and his stupid bullshit gives people like me a bad name.
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Silrette
July 17th, 2010
Gee, if you honestly didn’t believe in religion, then you wouldn’t believe infant baptism was forcing you to “become Catholic.” You’d think instead it was just some water on your head.
Like those that are outraged at Mormons for “baptizing” their ancestors. I don’t believe it has any effect nor am I the least harmed by it, nor my ancestors. We are remain, perhaps ironically, Baptists. Besides, the Mormons are trying to help, and I can respect a nice act when I see it. These people are not trying to help.
Anyone expending this much effort to prove they are NOT believers sounds like someone who is fighting an internal spiritual battle to me. Like they secretly wish someone will prove them wrong. Pretty please?
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AvgDude
July 17th, 2010
Anybody who feels compelled to be “de-baptised” clearly is every bit as superstitious as those whose values they claim to reject. How hideously idiotic.
HippieCritic
July 17th, 2010
So much anger at a supposedly non-existent being.
LadyGun12
July 17th, 2010
In my faith (Baptist), the rite of baptism does not have “magical and spiritual powers,” as this guy seems to think. It is symbolic of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ (buried in baptism, raised to walk in the newness of life). It is done AFTER your acceptance of Christ as Savior, so there is no need for this goofy de-baptism ritual. (I know, I know–other churches may have different types of baptisms–I’m just saying what mine does).
This is just another way liberals try to get themselves noticed. Yawn.
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Genipero
July 17th, 2010
Am a Catholic and this group sounds satanic to me. They’re Christophobes.
Jor-El Lives!
July 17th, 2010
@LadyGun12
You are beautiful. That’s right. It was Christ who said of John the Baptist; “He baptizes you in water, but I baptize you in the Holy Spirit.” Something like that (too lazy to look up exact scripture right now).
Water is used to symbolize that Baptism of the Holy Spirit in reference to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. However, being baptized won’t get ya Saved; only Jesus can do that. Jesus said, “I will leave you, but I will send a Comforter (The Holy Spirit) who will come in my place for now.” Again, something like that.
God Bless You LadyGun. (P.S. I’ve been meaning to ask you–will you please put that gun down! You scare me!)
Crackatoa
July 17th, 2010
I’ve got some terms for ‘em – Paptists, Quackers, Pentahostile, Methdissed, Orthodix to name a few…
Angry Pancreas
July 18th, 2010
Those fools were not hugged enough as children.
Well, maybe they were hugged, but in “the wrong way”?