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How Many Gays Are There? Not As Many As They Once Claimed

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How many gay people are there in the United States? Estimates have always been shaky. In 1995, preliminary results from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health rocked the media and human sexuality circuit when they found that 5 to 7 percent of young Americans self-reported as homosexual or bisexual. Previous studies had indicated only 1 percent of high schoolers were gay or bisexual. The landmark study was cited across academia, spawning over 1900 peer-reviewed publications, and became one of the largest longitudinal surveys on the psychological and physical well being of 7-12th graders.

In follow-up interviewers in 2008 with the same individuals who had said they were gay or bisexual as teens, the teens, who were now ages 24-32, weren’t as gay as they once claimed they were. A shocking 70 percent of the self-reported nonheterosexual teens had gone straight somewhere between their PSATs and their first student loan.

The recently released study, “The Dubious Assessment of Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Adolescents of Add Health,” has pointed out the glaring discrepancies between Wave 1 and Wave 4 of the survey.

You can read more. They go on to theorize that lots of the guys said they were gay as a joke.

But I want you to read this one passage and help me out with its meaning -

The latest study notes it’s not just our perception of how many gay teens there are in the country that Add Health got wrong. The serious consequence of this gay prank is a misreading of authentic gay adolescence in sexuality research. As the study notes, “these ‘dubious’ gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents may have led researchers to erroneously conclude from the data that sexual-minority youth are more problematic than heterosexual youth in terms of physical, mental, and social health.” If there were higher reports of nonheterosexual teens, then gay youth would have seemed more suicidal, depressed, or mentally ill than the demographic actually is.

What are they saying?

 

 

» 48 Comments

  1. Bad Brad

    January 23rd, 2014

    Geez, The school systems have made it fashionable to act flaming. I see these kids around town and think holy shit. Young males between the age of about 14 to 19 think it’s cool to wear Vans, tight ass pants, swing their hips when they walk, and talk like a FAG. But when it comes to taking a hot throbbing boner up the Hershey Highway, all of a sudden this shit got real. Of course the 20% that are athletes and live in the gym are BULLIES.

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  2. Not as gay

    January 23rd, 2014

    It’s less that one percent.
    I know I’m not as gay as I used to be, age takes the gay feeling right out of you. So yes,I’m less gay.

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  3. Not as gay

    January 23rd, 2014

    Oh wait. You mean homo. I thought gay like being happy.
    Crap. Never mind.

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  4. carter

    January 23rd, 2014

    The fact is that if you engage in homosexual activity you will get a demon. These will not ‘make you gay’ but they will torment you, thus effecting your choices and thought life.

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  5. Chuck Darwin

    January 23rd, 2014

    I would expect homosexuality to be a self-limiting aberration.
    If it were on the increase, that would point to environment (Nurture) rather than genetics (Nature.)

    So what’s going on in the culture these days?

    Rosie
    Chaz
    Huma
    Rachel
    A&F
    My Two Dads
    etc.
    etc.
    odd infinitum…

    So don’t tell me you were born that way, Larry.

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  6. GomeznSA

    January 23rd, 2014

    Bottom line, there really aren’t as many as they claim, it’s just that they are VERY vocal………and anyone who challenges them about any of their beliefs or tactics is a homophobe – well at least according to them.

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  7. Chiefillinicake

    January 23rd, 2014

    I been tellin’ ya. I been tellin’ ya!

    Certifiable homos, who are in fact usually certifiable, represent maybe +/- 1% of the population.

    1%

    That doesn’t mean they suck, it doesn’t mean they don’t matter, it certainly doesn’t mean that they should be bullied or put down or persecuted.

    But it does say volumes about the weight that their bitching has been given. It’s high time that America gets it’s collective head out of its ass and realizes that laser focus on hugely minority concerns is a deliberate smokescreen from Democrat traitors who desperately do not want to focus on joblessness, broken families, egregious debt, gutting our military, debasing our currency, or frittering away our leadership in the world.

    A quick heads up to our homosexual pals. The path you have us on will crash this country, and the quality of society after that happens will decidedly unfriendly to sissies.

    Think about it. Getting everything you ever wanted is a Destroyer. Ask any lottery winner.

    And know that you’ve been used as pawns. Useful Idiots.

    Your gains will disappear like vapor into the ether when the shit hits the fan.

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  8. Not as gay

    January 23rd, 2014

    If the government started rounding up homos for deportation or prison there would be very few people coming forward as being gay
    BUT
    This country is run by Progressives so gays are actively being sought for television shows. So more people will hop on the gay reality show band wagon

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  9. Burrloquent

    January 23rd, 2014

    The paragraph in question is saying that Ad Health (the survey takers) misinterpreted the data it received. This led the people who relied on this data to do their work*, to potentially cause societal harm.

    *make up crazy bullshit at taxpayer expense in a grandiose attempt to refashion societal perceptions and behavior patterns.

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  10. Tony R

    January 23rd, 2014

    Maybe you CAN “pray the gay away”!

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  11. Tony R

    January 24th, 2014

    When I entered college in 1970, on the enrollment paperwork you had to check a box for your race. I clicked Native American (I’m white). Later, comparing notes with my friends, it seems like a whole bunch of us did the same thing. So much for self-reporting.

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  12. BigFurHat

    January 24th, 2014

    these ‘dubious’ gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents may have led researchers to erroneously conclude from the data that sexual-minority youth are more problematic than heterosexual youth in terms of physical, mental, and social health.
    >>>

    this.. what does this mean?

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  13. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    January 24th, 2014

    “these ‘dubious’ gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents may have led researchers to erroneously conclude from the data that sexual-minority youth are more problematic than heterosexual youth in terms of physical, mental, and social health.”

    In real world terms, this gobbledygook means:

    1. Under the old study, there were a lot of gay teens. Give us money and power.

    2. Under the revised study, there aren’t as may gay teens as we thought, but the ones that are probably tend to be really fucked up. Give us money and power.

    Many people make their living “studying,” “advocating” or “helping” some perceived oppressed segment of our society cannot, and will not ever recognize that either the problem does not exist, or the problem is not as severe as represented, or (heaven forbid) the problem was solved. Does anyone really think Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton wish racism were completely eliminated? (For anyone who believes this, see me. I have a bridge for sale).

    Therefore, if a condition such as teen gayness is not as widespread as previously believed, then this just means that teen homosexuals are more oppressed, distressed or depressed than previously thought. It doesn’t matter – so long as the funding remains.

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  14. reddecaesari

    January 24th, 2014

    uk mail reports that rudolph nureyev who died from aids slept with jackie kennedy, her sister lee AND bobby kennedy.

    the inmates have taken over.

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  15. Burrloquent

    January 24th, 2014

    It means they figured gay kids went to a lot of keggers and humped their brains out while cutting themselves due to societies disapproval of their drunken, promiscuous and self destructive behavior.

    Don’t you get it? They were expecting more dead gay kids on societies altar…..societies WHITE CHRISTIAN MISOGYNIST RACE HATING EVIL altar of everything wrong with the traditional values of our nation that impedes the implementation of the brave new world as envisioned by our bureaucratic betters.

    It’s like the global warming deal but they’re admitting it.

    In a completely faggy passive aggressive way.

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  16. Bad Brad

    January 24th, 2014

    reddecaesari, All at the same time?

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  17. Zonga

    January 24th, 2014

    It means that teenagers are thugs, prostitutes, dope dealers, burglars, car thieves, mentally unstable, depressed, abuse substances, fight, shop lift, clog the courts, sneak into movies and drive-ins, throw spit balls, get each other pregnant, spread VD, and generally act out in chaotic, destructive fits.

    If they live to be 21 they get better.

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  18. Eleanor. in Hell

    January 24th, 2014

    I’m not commenting in this thread.
    Neither is Lorena Hickok; are you, Lorena? ;-)

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  19. Bad Brad

    January 24th, 2014

    Well there you have it, all the Gay people. Especially those pregnant ones.

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  20. F.D.R. in Hell

    January 24th, 2014

    Then shut up, Babs, and get back to your tribbing.
    :evil:

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  21. Stranded in Sonoma

    January 24th, 2014

    …these ‘dubious’ gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents may have led researchers to erroneously conclude from the data that sexual-minority youth are more problematic than heterosexual youth in terms of physical, mental, and social health.

    First off, I’ll bet that most of the high school studied were larger city high schools in liberal states or liberal areas. Had they asked this of flyover country high schools they probably would have gotten a negative percentage. Sometimes WHO you ask is more important that WHAT you ask.

    And being in liberal-land, there is a LOT of experimenting in high school because it is trendy. So some of the respondents claiming to be bisexual may have been true at the time, but then they grew up.

    But I think the number of homosexuals and lesbians was WAY OVER INFLATED by the jokesters.

    The sexual-minority youth is just liberal-speak for being inclusive; i.e., LGBTFAGOBAMA. You and I call them misguided.

    How the “researchers” concluded that misguided youth are more uncertain than normal youth in terms of various measurements of health is beyond me. I have no idea how they could conclude that, just because a bunch of kids were playing a prank on some schmoes doing dubious research.

    I think that paragraph means — we have no idea why these kids would pretend to be gay or lesbian and skew the results of our research; that’s just homophobic and I think I need a hug from my life partner.

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  22. OpenTheDoor

    January 24th, 2014

    Gheydom, the last refuge for a white male that isn’t Stormfront.

    @Hat, it means the author writes in circles trying to sound superior.
    “Sometime a cigar is just a cigar.” Sig

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  23. Irish

    January 24th, 2014

    Bbbbut they claim they are born that way

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  24. Anonymous

    January 24th, 2014

    Still too many.
    Time to take back our word for happy and call them queers again.

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  25. teenage boys everywhere

    January 24th, 2014

    So- do like circle jerks count?

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  26. Nick

    January 24th, 2014

    How Many Gays Are There?
    Too Many

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  27. thirdtwin

    January 24th, 2014

    “They go on to theorize that lots of the guys said they were gay as a joke.”

    No shit.

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  28. Anonymous

    January 24th, 2014

    I was disgusted when I got my military retirement earnings statement. One of the documents included information on how homosexuals could get their dependent IDs and benefits for their special partners.

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  29. even steven

    January 24th, 2014

    When I was a freshman in high school, a couple of the teachers who taught the health class freshman were all required to take devised a sex survey. The survey asked all sorts of graphic, sex related questions regarding specific sex acts and how many times we had done them. Word got around about the survey before my class started, and a big portion of my classmates conspired to answer all the questions to indicate we had regularly done everything listed and on multiple occasions. Being a freshman, I had done nothing listed on the the perverted survey. I doubt many of my peers had, either. The health class teachers were a couple of female PE teachers with cropped hair and who dressed like men. They got fired because of the survey. I still wonder if they actually believed my class was filled with perverts.

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  30. The MAD Jewess

    January 24th, 2014

    Its just the Commie “Liberals” that use perception-they vamp up #’s to THRUST through their agenda

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  31. old_oaks

    January 24th, 2014

    I bet if you take a street poll, the average LOFO thinks gays make up 40-50% of the population.

    I’ve verified this with my wife and a handful of my less politically aware friends. Just ask them; In your opinion what percentage of people are gay in the US?

    The problem is overexposure to gays. In reality gays make up only 3.8% of the population, but people are bombarded with gays everyday, on tv, print and movies. So they have an expectation that more people are gay. This is a problem because the gay lifestyle falsely gains acceptance not based on reality but perception.

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  32. Dr. Tar

    January 24th, 2014

    BFH that paragraph reads to me as the researchers assuming a teen that self reports he or she is gay is not mentally disturbed but that same kid that doesn’t report being gay now has serious emotional problems.

    It appears that the researchers know but are unwilling to openly admit that homosexual behavior is abnormal and an indication of a deeper psychological disorder.

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  33. citizenjane

    January 24th, 2014

    Not judgmental at all, are we?

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  34. Anonymous

    January 24th, 2014

    I’m with anonymous…I’m sick to tears of hearing fags described as “gay.” Gay is a little girl singing while she skips rope. Damnit, we’ve got to take back the language!

    old_oaks, I concur…someone who just landed from Mars and was trying to figure out 21st century America from watching tv, movies, etc. would conclude that we are about 75% black and all the whites are queer.

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  35. Anonymous

    January 24th, 2014

    Oh, and all judges are black women…

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  36. obama please!

    January 24th, 2014

    Just updated my browser and I guess my cookies got dumped…that was my two rants above…

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  37. Tim

    January 24th, 2014

    “… not as gay …”

    Huh?

    If you’re a guy who sux dix or lets other men fuk you in the ass, you’re homosexual.

    If you’re a gal who lix other wymym’s kukats, you’re homosexual.

    Even if you only do it once or twice a week.

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  38. Carlos The Jackal

    January 24th, 2014

    OTOH, the number of illegal invaders squatting in our country is grossly under-counted.

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  39. LaBonBon

    January 24th, 2014

    According to TV, practically everyone is gay. I had to stop watching “The Good Wife” on account of graphic, offensive lesbian scenes. Made me physically ill.

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  40. reddecaesari

    January 24th, 2014

    @badbrad

    not at once!
    and jackie was concerned for john john when rudi spent one month with him traveling without jacky.

    what an idiot. she knows the guy is queer and lets her son be alone with him.

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  41. clayusmcret

    January 24th, 2014

    Well, based on American TV, everyone is.

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  42. Freddie Sykes

    January 24th, 2014

    I used to think most women were gay but then I realized that they were rejecting me in particular rather than men in general. Go figure!

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  43. Anon

    January 24th, 2014

    I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body. Does that make me gay?

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  44. Nick

    January 24th, 2014

    What do you call a gay bar without stools?
    A Fruit Stand!

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  45. Rufus T Firefly

    January 24th, 2014

    TV makes for a distorted Census, which gays & other interest groups learned to exploit & manipulate way back in the Norman Lear days.
    A random surf of the cable dial yields this portrait of Obamerica’s population:

    49.5 % are white Gay men who are witty clever funloving talented endearing and everyone’s ideal good hearted BFF.
    And 49.5% have ALWAYS been openly gay, in every era back to the start of Time.

    75% are Feisty Sassy Wise Black women. Almost all black women are employed as small claims court judges. The rest are sexy superheroines and/or freelance secret agents.
    No black people are on welfare, or have less than a Masters’. America has a poverty problem, but only with Southern crackas too lazy to go to Harvard for free, which Gubmint makes possible for everyone.
    30% are artistic lipstick lesbians who lead fabulously fulfilling glamorous lives with equally fabulous soulmates who are To Die For, Seriously.
    100% of all leadership roles, public and private, are held by black women and, if temporary insufficiency of women, strong masterful black men. Especially true of the military and elite espionage High Commands.
    The President of the United States is always Morgan Freeman or Danny Glover. They take turns every 4 years. This works out great for the world, especially in times of apocalypse when maximum compassionate statesmanship is Humanity’s Last Hope.
    Caucasians make up approximately 11% of the population, and always have. They are minor comic relief office bumblers or racist homophobe villains.

    And that’s the America on TV in 2014.

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  46. LaBonBon

    January 24th, 2014

    Rufus–that is brilliant and spot on!!!

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  47. Callmelennie

    January 24th, 2014

    There was once a very scientific survey that was conducted inadvertently that probably nailed the true percentage of homosexuals in this country, and it had to do with the number of gay men who had died of AIDS in this country by the mid Eighties

    At the time the number of gay AIDS deaths reported in San Fransisco, whose known population of gay men was 56,000, was about 5,500. Number of deaths in Manhattan, whose estimated population of gay men was 200,000, was 20,000. In other words, the death toll in these two samples was 10%*

    The reported death total for gay men at the time was 200,000. So apply the 10% figure and you come up with 2 million gay men … in a US population of about 240 million. If you allow for a higher percentage of AIDS deaths in both San Fran and Manhattan, due to the fact that AIDS hit these two cities first, you could argue that that gay population in the US was 2.4 million …. but still only 1% of the population; and 2% of the male population

    *another 10% reported full blown AIDS, a death sentence at the time, and 40% reported HIV infection

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  48. riverlife_callie

    January 24th, 2014

    these ‘dubious’ gay, lesbian, and bisexual adolescents may have led researchers to erroneously conclude from the data that sexual-minority youth are more problematic than heterosexual youth in terms of physical, mental, and social health.

    I read this to mean that the authors think that the previous results made people think that homosexual youth are more “problematic” but since their data is all screwed up they are really not problematic. They are perfect. It is the heterosexual youth who are the real problem. Is that about right, lefties?

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