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It’s time for Ron Paulians to put a shovel to their clueless guy. He is slow-witted and is the right’s equivalent of the naive Jimmy Carter.

Paul says Obama isn’t a socialist.

This is what he said in a speech at the Southern Republican Leadership conference:

From TPM

“The question has been raised about whether or not our president is a socialist,” Paul said. “I am sure there are some people here who believe it. But in the technical sense, in the economic definition of a what a socialist is, no, he’s not a socialist.”

“He’s a corporatist,” Paul continued. “And unfortunately we have corporatists inside the Republican party and that means you take care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

Paul said examples of President Obama’s “corporatism” were evident in the heath care reform bill he signed into law last month. He said the mandate in the bill put the power over health care in the hands of corporations rather than private citizens. But he said the bill wasn’t the only place where corporatism is creeping into Washington.

“We see it in the financial institutions, we see it in the military-industrial complex,” he said. “And now we see it in the medical-industrial complex.”

Try and keep up, Ron. Have you read Rules For Radicals or Cloward/Piven? Here, I’ll lay it out for ya. This is step one: Take over the financial institutions. Step Two: Set them up for certain failure. Step Three: When you have created your capitalism crisis be at the ready to plug-in your solution – socialism.

Go back to sleep Paul. We’ll wake you up in time for you to get your affairs in order and then you can slip away peacefully.

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  1. Corona

    April 10th, 2010

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  2. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    Oh yea, can’t wait for November…
    we’ve got Bupkis mit Kuduchas

    (trans: shivering shitballs)

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  3. Uncle Al

    April 10th, 2010

    Corporatism is a form of collectivism, as is socialism. From a conservative or libertarian perspective, the differences are in the org chart and not in the result, namely govt control of production and employment.

    It’s not that Paul is right or wrong, it is that if you let yourself get distracted by the terminology or what lines connect what boxes in that chart, you are missing the important stuff.

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  4. cfm990

    April 10th, 2010

    Dimentia.
    An equal opportunity malady.

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  5. Jimmy McW

    April 10th, 2010

    Obama is on tape talking about a time frame for the elimination of employer provided healthcare. Take a look at what is going on in Massachusetts and you will see out future.

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  6. BigFurHat

    April 10th, 2010

    Al, your definition relies on an old notion. Obama is in no way a corporatist because that implies he is for controlling production. Obama is anti-production.
    He has done nothing to indicate he is in favor of corporations even surviving.
    Japan is a corporatist society. You think Obama is interested in that model? They are weak union corporatists. If Obama can create an industry of unions that produce nothing, that will be a corporation he can get behind.

    So if you want to say he is a corporatist to “control what he seeks to destroy”, fine.

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  7. Moe Tom

    April 10th, 2010

    Anyone got the link to the video of maxine waters telling the oil company exec that she was going to “social..er, ah, aaah, oh, ah, long pause, take over your companies”?

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  8. Uncle Al

    April 10th, 2010

    @BFH – Yes, certainly 0 wants to destroy if you look at the situation from our (rational, capitalist) perspective. But I don’t believe he and his cohort think that way. They want to control so they can maximize their parasitic gains and do not understand that by doing so they destroy.

    As Joe Sobran said, If termites could talk, I always say, they’d call what they’re doing to the house “progress,” and when the house finally collapsed on them they’d ask how the heck that happened.

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  9. Uncle Al

    April 10th, 2010

    Hey, anyone else envying Poland?

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  10. RoseD1st

    April 10th, 2010

    Ron Paul = Jimmy Carter yep I see it.

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  11. BigFurHat

    April 10th, 2010

    It’s just that whatever corporatist you want to point at, be it liberal, progressive, neo, whatever – none of them have the failure of corporations or roll backs in production in mind.
    Frequent trips to the White House might make Andy Stern feel as if he has been visiting a friend, a strong union corporatist. He’s wrong, so is Paul.
    When Stern has to go back to his union workers with the bad news that production is being cut because of Cap and Trade, and the resulting collapse of our economy forces cuts in retirement benefits, health care benefits, etc.
    we’ll see how much of a corporatist they think he is.
    Every other leader had the glorious vision of their country LEADING the world in production under their planning and guidance, making it powerful.
    That is not Obamas’s vision.

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  12. Zonga

    April 10th, 2010

    Tupalev Air Force One – brzmi dobrze dla mnie.

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  13. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    Uncle Al, that plane crash doesn’t pass my smell test. First, their missile defense let down by our fake president, now this.

    Someone should take a hard look into the background of the pilot, who was allegedly warned not to try to land.

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  14. Amigo Burr

    April 10th, 2010

    Ron Paul is a Du-fist. Obama is a Ass-ist. Together they would make an AssFist.

    There, I’ve think we’ve reached an accord.

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  15. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    By the way, has anyone resurrected that picture of the fake president getting off a plane carrying a book clearly titled, “A World Without America”?

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  16. Uncle Al

    April 10th, 2010

    @ZeerO – Yes, but further complicating the question is that Kaczynski had on at least one occasion berated his pilot for not landing because of unsafe conditions. Also, there are reports that the crew dumped fuel before trying to land. That’s almost always (but not quite always) a sign of mechanical trouble.

    We’ll probably never know. Too many ways for information to be manipulated. A Polish head of state well known for not being friendly to Russia goes down in a plane crash on Russian soil when on his way to memorialize Poles massacred by Russians in WWII. Sheesh!

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  17. Amigo Burr

    April 10th, 2010

    Pol-etic injustice?

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  18. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    The airport was closed and the pilot was given two alternative airports to land, but made no response to the tower. If it was mechanical trouble, the plane was reported to be Russian-built.
    The plane is also reported to have “fallen apart” just before the crash.

    It’s a tangled web of questions, for sure.

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  19. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    Polish jokes coming in 3… 2… 1… …NO!

    WE, the USA, are now the #1 joke country for having elected this fake president. And if don’t turn things around, this joke will be tragic.

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  20. ZeerO

    April 10th, 2010

    if *we* don’t turn things around…

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  21. My2Cents

    April 10th, 2010

    ***he’s not a socialist. He’s a corporatist,” Paul continued***

    How nuanced.

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  22. Zonga

    April 10th, 2010

    Got 30:39?

    Ron Paul at 2010 Southern Republican Leadership Conference 4/10/10

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  23. Zonga

    April 10th, 2010

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  24. mark

    April 10th, 2010

    Tom Moe – you asked for it …

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  25. Alpha Maser

    April 11th, 2010

    All shades of Marxism, which is justification for envy – one of the seven deadly sins. Really, when you get down to it, its simply good versus evil…

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  26. Moe Tom

    April 11th, 2010

    Thank You Mark

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  27. Comrade Whoopie

    April 11th, 2010

    Ron Paul is the only “Republican” ever welcome at a Code Pink rally. Apparently they recognize a like-minded retard when they see him.

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  28. Grandpa

    April 11th, 2010

    @Zeero, go here: curiosor and curiosor..

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

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  29. Publius

    April 11th, 2010

    Ron tried to subsidize the straw poll and still couldn’t get enough people to sign up to win. I am a Tea Party supporter all the way and a budding Libertarian, but Ron is out there where the buses don’t run. Obama a corporatist? That’s like saying Stalin was a Republican and Hitler was a pacifist.

    This is what happens when you start believing your own bullshit. Let me tell you, this sort of thing happens to me all the time, so I know the signs of when someone becomes completely disconnected from reality. I have to take my pills now.

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  30. Left Coast Dan

    April 11th, 2010

    It continues to bother me that Paul gets as much support as he does. I think it is because a lot of conservatives feel the Republican leadership isn’t willing to push hard on the important things like reducing government size and entitlements. I don’t see Paul ever getting beyond early popularity though.

    ‘Corporatist’ – a new meme? I think the federal government, particularly from Clinton forward, has done way too much to favor certain corporations over others, through regulation, protection and subsidy. I think Obama is continuing that, particularly with the healthcare & pharma companies, but as others have said I see his ultimate goal as control of those corporations rather than nepotistic support.

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  31. Uncle Al

    April 11th, 2010

    Any students of economics here? I mean at least semi-academic students? I don’t see much sign of any.

    Paul has spent decades reading and studying economics, mostly but not exclusively Austrian School. The term “corporatism” much like “socialism” has undergone quite a bit of change since it was coined in the early 19th century.

    Paul’s use of the word to describe 0′s (and previous POTUS’s) economic policies is historically correct. BFH’s use of the word to describe Japan’s system is also correct even though his definition differs from Paul’s.

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  32. Freedom

    April 11th, 2010

    How can you gang up on Ron Paul? He’s responsible for bringing the illegal, unConstitutional Federal Reserve under scrutiny. He has authored a bill to audit the Fed. He has gotten people interested in the political and economic system and the Constitution for the first time in their lives. Does anyone here actually understand what he’s been saying for two decades? Has anyone who commented here actually read his book?

    Limited government is our only hope, the Dems and Republicans are two cheeks of the same ass. They are one Mob gang, just different crime families – like the Gambinos vs. the Bonannos. I love this website and find it entertaining, but the author should be ashamed of this post because it’s inaccurate and unfairly derogatory. Wake up.

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  33. Freedom

    April 11th, 2010

    P.S. – Ron Paul is actually correct on this: Obama is not a socialist. In fact, the socialist party has actually refuted that idea – they wish he WERE a socialist. Obama is a fascist. To quote Richard Maybury:

    “What Obama and his toadies have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be is fascist. Fascism is the most simple-mined of all political philosophies, it boils down to just 16 words: power holders should do whatever appears necessary, no exceptions, no limits, and no definition of necessary.

    Socialism is a very intricate long-range strategic plan – a plan that is insane, but a plan nevertheless. Fascism HAS NO PLAN, IT IS 100% PRAGMATIC, a fire fighting mentality, not an agenda mentality. It’s only answer to any problem is, MORE GOVERNMENT.” Look up Benito Mussolini.

    And the definition of fascism from Wikipedia:
    “The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini’s, that

    * exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
    * uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
    * engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
    *engages in corporatism”

    Obama does all of this.

    People who haven’t read or researched but just shoot their mouths off to agree with someone else should keep them shut.

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  34. Zonga

    April 11th, 2010

    Comrade Whoopie, apparently you are not aware that Romney started buying votes months ago – Paul started his campaign two weeks before the event.

    Paul lost the straw poll by one vote.

    It seems to me some here simply spew the party line or Fox News talking points.

    Shame shame.

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  35. Jimmy McW

    April 11th, 2010

    For me, the question is this:When the primaries roll around will Ron Paul be left holding the bag much in the way that Howard Dean was. Are there really that many who support him or does the volume of their voices disguise the fact that they are few in number?

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  36. mark

    April 11th, 2010

    @Freedom – if anyone should be ashamed it’s you. For someone who names themselves freedom and then summarily says folks should shut up …

    Hypocrisy! Party of one!

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  37. Call me Lennie

    April 11th, 2010

    BFH, ‘ol buddy

    This post was quoted at A-T today by the man on the 27th floor himself, Thomas Lifson. Here’s your link

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/04/ron_paul_sees_only_one_tree_in.html

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  38. toreydawn

    April 11th, 2010

    Must See! Ron is more correct than you think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFA4uOPnV8

    Good thread here: http://www.facebook.com/toreydawn?v=wall&story_fbid=100488693327899 Thanks IOTW for starting the discussion ;)

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  39. Zonga

    April 11th, 2010

    Is there anybody more conservative than Ron Paul? I wonder why the conservatives on this board don’t like him.

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  40. Tim

    April 11th, 2010

    Freedom,
    Mussolini considered himself a socialist. The Fascist party was simply a mnemonic to the Roman Empire.

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  41. BigFurHat

    April 11th, 2010

    @ Zonga

    Here’s a start.
    His National Defense policy is to become an isolationist and hope no axis of evil develops against the U.S., and he would be the last to know because he distrusts the intelligence gathering community and has included these defense agencies in his claim that the U.S. spends one trillion dollars a year on foreign aid.
    He would defund them.

    He is for legalizing drugs, likening drug laws to prohibition (in that it creates crime.)

    He’s also a hypocrite, routinely railing against expenditures as low as a few thousands of dollars in grandstanding fashion, then tries to funnel hundreds of millions in pork to his home district.

    Over the years he has embraced and denounced Reagan at various times, depending on who he is pandering to.

    Paul introduced a bill to repeal the 1973 War Powers Resolution in March of 2001,transferring power to Congress solely to declare war. Then voted to authorize Bush to respond to 9/11, then said Bush made a mistake, sponsoring a bill to repeal the war resolution. Cuckoo Cuckoo.

    He has proposed making Social Security optional.
    Not trying to create ideas to make it solvent again, pretty much putting a shovel to it. I want my friggin money. Give me what I put in and we’ll call it even.

    He wants to get rid of FEMA. That is ridiculous. If your state is out of manpower and resources, then what? Rely on another state to help you out?

    He wants to get rid of the Department of Homeland Security. It’s not that I think this is a great agency, it’s not, but it represents where Paul’s mind is at. Up his ass.

    And, I don’t care how he has back-pedaled. He is a truther. He made enough appearances on the Alex Jones show to display his nuttery. He’s on record saying that the US will have a Gulf of Tonkin incident to get into Iran.

    From a video:
    Student: …we’ve heard that you have questioned the government’s official account.

    Paul: Well, I never automatically trust anything the government does when they do an investigation because too often I think there’s an area that the government covered up, whether it’s the Kennedy assassination or whatever.

    So he is a Kennedy conspiracy theory nut too, huh?
    Maybe we should run Wally George?
    There is plenty I like about Ron Paul. Plenty.
    But there are plenty of conservatives that aren’t going to do or say something stupid in the middle of their campaigns that we can run.
    it’s not a race to see who can be most conservative across the board, it’s who is electable.

    Paul is libel to say in a debate that we need to go on a national barter system, using only pretzels. You just never know with him. He is good for Texas. Keep him there.

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  42. reeko

    April 11th, 2010

    GOOD POST BFH! i’ve been arguing with Libertarians and Ron Paul-tards for decades. any student of history and/or economics can shoot all their conspiracy nutjob theories FULL of holes. Ron Paul is NOT a conservative and ONLY put the “R” by his name in order to steal an election. he is, was, and will always remain a diehard Libertarian.

    i STILL am amazed at how sheepish and uneducated his brainwashed, zealot followers are. if anybody wants to debate Ron Paul’s talking points – bring it. but i warn u, better bring your A-game, because u will lose the argument.

    Libertarians hate Republicans just as much – if not more – than Democrats. they also hate our military and anything to do with the military. here is proof of that from just yesterday on a Facebook exchange with somebody who complimented the G.I. Woodshop, Inc. for the job we do for our military fighting on the front lines. the guy’s name is Joe Spennato, and he is a full-blown Ron Paul-tard, Code Pink, Libertarian Party and Westboro Baptist Church troll all wrapped up together smoking the same crack pipe:

    //begin quote// (Joe Spennato) Yea, first off this is bullshit because the US spends more than the rest of the world on its military combined. This fact suggests that the citizens so gung ho about overseas adventurism fail to hold accountable the politicians who thrust those soldiers into wars.

    Secondly, I say we go back to the post Vietnam war tradition of spitting on the soliders, to provide them an appropriate disincentive for implementing the plans of destruction, murder and mayham that Washington DC cooks up.

    Let the flaming commence. *DISCLAIMER* I mean metaphorically spitting on them. Although if you are inclined to literally do so more power to you. I’m just not advocating or condoning the latter course of action.

    Resume flame war. //end quote//

    any Ron Paul freak who wants to step forward and spit on THIS veteran, or any other veteran, it won’t be just ignored as your “free speech” trust me on that. – reeko

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  43. Freedom

    April 11th, 2010

    Read it again, Mark:

    “People who haven’t read or researched but just shoot their mouths off to agree with someone else should keep them shut.”

    It is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. – Mark Twain

    I didn’t say to just shut up and not discuss anything. I said to shut up if all you know how to do is be a yes-man without the facts, something many people are doing on this post. With the exception of “Uncle Al” and “Big Fur Hat,” the people here haven’t given facts or honest discussion, just nasty, prejudiced remarks off the top of their heads without backing them up with anything substantial. Many of the things said here are inaccurate.

    For you to try to make it sound as though I want no freedom of speech is dishonest and skewed on your part.

    If you haven’t seen the YouTube video called The Philosophy of Liberty, I recommend you watch it.

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  44. Zonga

    April 11th, 2010

    BFH

    So basically you are not a conservative, you are a neoconservative.

    Your statements are not accurately portraying Ron Paul’s position on the issues. You are coughing up a bunch of neocon hair balls.

    How many of his books have you read?

    How many of his speeches have you listened to?

    Are you filtering the facts out yourself or are you summarizing something you’ve been told by the radio receiver in your fillings?

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  45. mark

    April 11th, 2010

    @freedom – I say again, if you tell people to shut up you are a hypocrit. I stand toe to toe on a daily basis with uneducated uninformed folks regarding health care and health insurance and I do not tell them to shut up. the 1st amendment has no stipulation for education or information … you are welcome to spew your shit, but be aware it is shit.

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  46. mark

    April 11th, 2010

    Just one more thing real quick before I hand my computer to my 8 year old … ask a soldier whether or not they fight for the everyone in the US or just the “educated”?

    Freedom is for everyone, ask Uncle Al

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  47. BigFurHat

    April 11th, 2010

    I’m not sure what parts you think are made up. If they were it’s more likely the plate in my head rather than fillings – but please point to what you think is not Ron Paul’s position and I will provide links.

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  48. Uncle Al

    April 11th, 2010

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  49. Zonga

    April 11th, 2010

    BFH

    Do you automatically believe everything the gooberment says?

    So, how many of his books have you read?

    How many of his speeches have you listened to?

    OMG! Uncle Al hit one out of the park.

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  50. bfh

    April 11th, 2010

    Yes. Paul is for non-intervention to the point of wanting to pull out of the United Nations, NATO, the International Criminal Court, and most international trade agreements.
    That’s not non-intervention, that is pulling the shades.
    If you can’t see the difference… what am I saying? of course you can’t.
    You’re too busy cupping your own farts.

    Paul consistently votes against appropriations that are unconstitutional. The earmarks he tries to get for his district come from already appropriated money that he has voted against. >>

    pfffffft. This is the same sentiment Ariana Huffington tried to pull when getting busted about flying all over the country on jets while believing in global warming. She said “the planes are going flying there anyway.
    You can’t be serio.. there I go again. Of course you’re serious. You’re seriously self-righteous.
    You’re the kind of douche at parties that keeps his ears open for other conversations so you can hear someone say something like “I admire Abe Lincoln.” boom, Enter Uncle Al. ‘Abe Lincoln?? I’ll tell you about Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was a blalalalalalala. Hold that thought, I just heard someone mention Free Radicals. I’ll tell you about Free Radicals – Moses Gomberg was a neo-paleo,classical, free mason to the 12th power and the fact that you didn’t know that renders everything you think inferior. Who made this spinach dip? The PH is off.

    >>Paul voted to authorize W to use force to hunt down and capture whom we believed and still believe to be behind the 9/11 atrocities.>>

    Really? A: Paul is a truther, so the hunt would be domestic B: How could the asshole believe he was authorizing a WAR on al-qaeda when everyone knows al-qaeda does not fly a flag. So he was authorizing Bush to be able to globe trot? Doesn’t that fly in the face of his NON- INTERVENTION stance? He would have to assume he was authorizing Bush to poke his head in ANY country he wanted to track down the terrorists.
    Seriously, Al. Have your trainer throw in the towel. You think you’re clever. Frankly, you’re not 1/15th as impressive as you think you are.
    Which explains why you’re impressed with Ron Paul. Zero logic.

    >Ya. I think social security is in a lock box. (rolling eyes) First of all, that has NOTHING to do with the point about Ron Paul. Second of all, there CAN’T be a transition period where people can begin to opt out. Social Security is a pyramid scheme that requires more and more participation to pay the previous contributors. Opting out renders it insolvent. But you know that, Dontcha? Does Paul? Does he actually believe he can call his plan anything other than what it is – killing social security?

    FEMA – Here we go. This is when you and Ron Paul can display your full retard.
    Yes, yes. FEMA is a shadow government, the real government. Go ahead – say it. It was an executive order so it’s unconstitutional. Pffft.
    FEMA was created to yes, BE the government – in case of national emergency or nuclear attack. It’s a necessary program. Of course an anarchist wouldn’t think so, but an anarchist, like someone who can’t smell their own bad breath, doesn’t know how asinine their beliefs are.
    I would love to see two films. One is a national disaster with no government, everyone on their own. The other with FEMA. I would zoom in on you in the Anarchy version, sitting, shivering and crying and screaming, isn’t anyone going to do something, as your belongings are stolen from you and then you’re mouth raped.

    DOD and DHS redundant? ummmmmmmm. The DOD focuses and WANTS to focus on OVERSEAS MILITARY OPERATIONS.
    DHS is domestic security – doofus.

    I would suggest you remove the bug you have up your ass about me. Your shadowing on EVERY word I say is NOT going well for you.

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  51. bfh

    April 11th, 2010

    Zonga. Take your tongue out of Al’s ass. He not only didn’t hit it out of the park, he fouled the ball off into his own face.

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  52. Call me Lennie

    April 11th, 2010

    @ Zonga

    I studied Russian so I’ll take a wild guess that “brzmi dobrze dlya mnie” Don’t have a clue as to what brzmi is but the rest is “good for me”, I think

    Moreover, although I’m not on board with “no avatar bfh’s” sentiment, I do find the idea of a baboon with its tongue up Uncle Al’s ass to be amusing, to say the least

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  53. Call me Lennie

    April 12th, 2010

    I’ll take a wild guess that “brzmi dobrze dlya mnye” it’s Polish, that is

    Bozhe moy. kakaya ya durak

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  54. Zonga

    April 12th, 2010

    brzmi dobrze dla mnie = sounds good to me.

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  55. Zonga

    April 12th, 2010

    BFH, you can read about Ron Paul and international trade agreements here:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul254.html

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  56. Zonga

    April 12th, 2010

    BFH, so, you haven’t read any of Ron Paul’s books, listened to his speeches, read his essays?

    You may read and listen here: The Ron Paul File:
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/

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  57. Freedom

    April 12th, 2010

    Mark:
    Your entire argument is a smokescreen for avoiding the point I made: that most people on this thread are sarcastic yes-men who have no real knowledge of what Ron Paul stands for.

    If something’s your opinion say so, but don’t act like it’s a fact. I don’t attack people by calling them names or saying what they think is shit. That’s your subjective opinion, it’s not a fact. That type of comment goes nowhere except to cause arguments.

    Stop putting words in my mouth; I am here for honest discussion with people about facts and truth. Unfortunately, you & most others here aren’t interested in that. You’re interested in bashing anyone who isn’t just like you.

    It isn’t possible to talk with people who are irrational and unreasonable, just emotional, and I’m not going to try, so take it easy, I hope you do some research on your own before you ignorantly get on someone else’s bandwagon. You never answered my question when I asked if you had read any of Ron Paul’s books yourself.

    One last thing: my son is in the Air Force – currently in Japan and deploying to Afghanistan in September. (Do you have any kids in the military, wise guy?) Yeah, my son defends your right to condescendingly say I’m spewing shit. I’d love to say something really shitty to you right now, but I won’t because I’m a decent person. Have a nice day. That’s my final word. Can’t reason with unreasonable people.

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  58. Freedom

    April 12th, 2010

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  59. Mark

    April 12th, 2010

    @freedom –

    1. There is no smokescreen here. I make no argument for or against Paul in this thread.
    2. The only fact I argued is that everyone has the right to speak, educated or uneducated so don’t tell anyone to shut up.
    3. I put no words in your mouth, I merely stated my opinion that your opinion (on telling people to shut up) is shit and I stand by that.
    4. I may be unreasonable (my wife and mother would agree with you) but I am most certainly not irrational.
    5. I have never read any Paul books, I have seen some of his speeched and read some of the articles written by him as well as some that were written for him.
    6. God bless your son for his service and you and your family for your sacrifice in supporting him. My children are too young at the moment so there is no telling whether or not they will serve, but I would be proud to have them do so. I still encourage you to ask your son whether he fights only for your right to speak or does he also fight for those who have not read Paul’s books.

    I will address your first point now, you said the people here are sarcasic yes men. I will tell you you are half right. Many if not most are sarcastic and maybe to a fault. However, you will find very few yes men here. Just because we don’t bow at the Paul alter does not mean we are yes men.

    And I will say again, your son fights, among other things, for the right to free speech … for everyone, not just for Paul supporters.

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  60. Mark

    April 12th, 2010

    5. – *speeches*

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    April 12th, 2010

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  62. reeko

    April 12th, 2010

    ah yes. the anrachists and minarchists of the Ron Paul regime. insanity really is contagious.

    unlike most of the Ron Paul-tards bloviating on this thread, i actually have been battling wits with nitwits such as Ron Paul’s minions and Libertarians since the 1970s not only here in Texas, but throughout the states and overseas. in fact, i first ran across their mind-games with their “World’s Smallest Political Quiz” (Nolan chart) that they use to recruit with, back in the early 70s. i pegged it as slanted propaganda then, and it is propaganda now. yet it remains the bed-rock of converting folks by making them think they are Libertarians by using the slanted question format. not very clever, but effective.

    speaking of recruiting, Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party also openly and actively recruit at the anarchist music “x-treme sports” tours such as the Vans Warped Tour. i was invited last year to go help some Ron Paul-tards hand out brochures at the Warped Tour here. i went and saw with my own eyes and yes, the anarchists loved them! plz check out their headline bands such as “Anti-Flag” “Bad Religion” “Agent Orange” and all other such anarchist/atheist/pagan music groups…

    Ron Paul/Libertarians still preach that the Federal Reserve is unconstitutional and use codewords such as “fiat money” for dollars. they even twist part of the Constitution to say things it does not. if any of them ever tell u the Constitution only allows gold and silver to be used as money, they are lying. it says no such thing. i know some nutjobs who won’t even refer to dollars as money, instead use the term “federal reserve note” abbreviated “FRN” instead of dollars when transacting any business. they also advocate going back to the gold standard and other such conspiracies. it doesn’t matter one bit to them if u point out that there isn’t enough gold AND silver in the entire world mined – in all history of mankind – that could be gathered into one place and each person on the globe could have less than an ounce of each. and that’s if the entire world’s population were equitable! simply put, the gold standard is a fool’s gambit and only fools believe in it. Austrian School economics was supposed to be a lassez-faire school of free markets, yet every advocate of it in history has used it to amass wealth for themselves. ditto gold standard idiots. it is, in simple terms, a ruse. a physical impossibility. a gambit that cannot be done regardless of their intent. even if you’re not religious, read what the bible says about worshipping gold.

    speaking of the bible, Libertarians and Ron Paulistas also use their code-speak to ridicule others into hating Jews and all of Israel. it was NO ACCIDENT that David Duke and Stormfront openly endorsed Ron Paul and continue to do so. racism is deeply rooted in Libertarianism.

    Ron Paul only put an R by his name in order to dupe gullible nitwits into electing him. he has proven an asswipe ever since. his Libertarian stooges will use name calling such as “neo-con” “imperialist” “internationalist” “international adventurist” “freemason” “Zionist” etc. for any and all conservatives who disagree with them. and no, i’m not a freemason. i’m a Reagan conservative Christian.

    they are NOT conservatives in any way. that’s like saying the Anti-Federalists were conservative. (they weren’t) and oh by the way, the Federalists won that argument. since it was Jefferson who always spoke for the Anti-Federalists, Libertarians don’t want anybody to hear the smack-downs he got from Madison, Hamilton, Marshall, Jay, Washington and others. Libertarians are very fond of quoting from Jefferson…

    Libertarians and Ron Paul nutjobs hate Republicans more than the Marxists in power now.

    PS: i won’t put the links to urls here because they are working on this site and this is a long rant. but will gladly put links in later. if anybody needs a proper schooling on the history of politics, get with me.

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