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You Want $15 an Hour For Burger Flipping? Own a McDonalds Franchise and Find Out Why Not

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Right Winger – iOwnTheWorld.com

The ultimate issue is that liberal regressives have zero concept of how a business runs. McDonalds corporate does not dictate the wages for the franchises.

I was breaking down the math on the $5.5 billion in profit against 33,000 stores worldwide, which came out $166,666 profit/year per store. That fit in line with numbers at burgerbusiness.com on a typical McDonalds franchise.

http://www.burgerbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/Janney_McD.jpg

Their numbers show (after everything is paid off), the franchise owner gets about $153,900 in profit after annual sales of $2.7 million. Hardly a rich salary.

Now, Crew Payroll is figured to be $540,000. If you took everybody making say, $8/hr and gave them a 25% raise to $10/hr, you’d be adding about $135,000 more to crew payroll expenses.

That takes the franchise owners profit down to less than 19K. Any regressive out there want to explain how a guy who owns a business is supposed to live off of $19,000 year? I challenge any regressive to go out there, buy a franchise and then you can pay these folks the $15/hr you think they deserve. You’ll be out of business in one year tops.

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MNHawk – iOwntheWorld.com

Right winger did a great writeup on the business side. Let’s look at it from the consumer side. I’ll go with my personal experience., from my last vacation.

Manila, $1.50 hour minimum wage, a typical meal of a double burger, medium fries, medium drink is under $4. I think I was spending 150 pesos, VAT included.

Taipei, a higher minimum wage but I don’t think it’s much higher. You’re over $4 now for that meal. Probably NT$140-NT$150.

Here, $7.50 wage, that meal is over $7, last time I had one. You see where this is going?

Let’s double that to $15. Your meal went from $4 to $7 with another $5 in wages, where do you think it will go with another $7.50 in wages. $12 perhaps. So now it’s $24 to feed two a decent meal. That’s a restaurant level tab. Are you going to pay a restaurant level tab for a fast food experience?

» 48 Comments

  1. Groucho Marxist

    August 30th, 2013

    This is only the dems latest cause celebre in order to keep real news off the MSM

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  2. RightWinger

    August 30th, 2013

    Uh oh, another one to scratch off my bucket list! Getting a headline at IOTW! :-

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  3. jsg

    August 30th, 2013

    I’ve been saying that forever.

    Get your lefty drum circle together, pool your allowances Daddy gives you, and open A McMarxist store yourself.

    It would be epic.

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  4. Anonymous

    August 30th, 2013

    The original 15 cent burger will be 15 dollars.

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  5. Groucho Marxist

    August 30th, 2013

    We’ll all need EBT cards to eat at McDonalds

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  6. :-|

    August 30th, 2013

    The war on womyn

    Sex homo sex transgender sex, boys and girls in school sharing locker rooms and bathrooms, sex sex sex

    illegal to counsel sexually confused children away from homosex

    income “inequality”

    social “justice”

    communism

    socialism

    welfare

    HUD to integrate middle class neighborhoods

    Trayvon

    Godlessness

    abortion a right in the third trimester, minors allowed abortion without parental consent

    New puppy at the white house

    Shelly’s bangs

    and more!

    Where are the real issues? Buried in the above crap.

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  7. BigFurHat

    August 30th, 2013

    I find it odd (or do I?) that the very same people who loathe the McDonalds’ menu and block the building of “them type of bidnesses” in their city are targeting them to raise employees’ wages.
    It’s almost as if they want them to go out of business. (Stage direction – Look around like a clueless retard.)

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  8. jsg

    August 30th, 2013

    You have to break a few Egg McMuffins to make a Community Omelette

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  9. BigFurHat

    August 30th, 2013

    Nothing is a distraction. It’s all part of being fundamentally transformed.
    The punches are being thrown in a windmill fashion and some may hurt more than others but it’s the same assault.

    I don’t buy the notion that any single issue that burns our ass hairs is a distraction. That’s actually an insulting elitist charge.
    It implies that “you don’t know what’s really going on but I do.”
    The people who read political blogs know what’s going on.
    The people who don’t don’t care and/or are Obama voters.
    Our job is to get them to care.
    The “one big picture” story that the “clued in people know what’s what” posted over and over and over again is fruitless.

    You capture the hearts and minds of people over time when you show them lots of examples of our destructive march leftward.
    You never know what’s going to resonate with the otherwise disinterested.
    It might be a story about how PETA is actually more cruel to animals than they let on.
    Thus the Barbi Twins stories that everyone gets so upset about that Pinko runs.

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  10. Tim

    August 30th, 2013

    The socialists don’t give a flying fig about the math.

    Their purpose is to destroy economies, countries, lives, associations, relationships, things of beauty, and belief in GOD.

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  11. Reaganaut

    August 30th, 2013

    Too bad owning a business can’t be foisted on leftist like Obamacare was foisted on America. The left would fall apart overnight.

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  12. Menderman

    August 30th, 2013

    and if their pay goes up to 15 bucks and the cost of the meal goes up to 12 bucks to cover that salary, they are in the exact same place as before. And if they get that 15 bucks, all other low wage jobs will need to pay more to compete and all their prices go up. The only people that actually benefit from raising minimum wages are unions. If minimum wage goes up 10%, so do union salaries. The liberals know this. They don’t give to craps about burger flippers but they loves them unions!

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  13. AbigailAdams

    August 30th, 2013

    Fur — nail hit on head.

    Alinsky: * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

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  14. marcus t. cicero

    August 30th, 2013

    *Growing up the McJob was for high school kids
    to buy gas and date$. Now days, vast majority
    of McJobs go to drop outs from HS and college..
    Times are hard if you wasted years playing
    around and not taking education(?) seriously..
    Too bad kids graduate(?)without a (real)education,
    only to find out that are not equipped to deal
    with real life..Blame parents for not demanding
    respect and responsability..We all are paying now
    with ignorant ppl.and ignorant gov. Not a pretty
    picture, things are getting worse not better…

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  15. Groucho Marxist

    August 30th, 2013

    I agree Big Fur Hat….

    Right now pedophilia being a sexual orientation is on a low flame.

    20 years ago it was being whispered as a genetic normal for some people.

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  16. marcus t. cicero

    August 30th, 2013

    *Good Job “RightWinger” you learned some
    Math…A lot of kids cannot give you change
    for a dollar without a register that displays
    the correct change, if the register is not working
    the McKid cannot figure it out..How sad…

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  17. Jerry Manderin

    August 30th, 2013

    They need a Ronald Reagan at the McDonald’s helm and FIRE every one of these McPissants who walk off the job.

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  18. truthsayer221

    August 30th, 2013

    You will be hard pressed to find a non-Hispanic employee in any McDonalds in Southern Nevada! No jobs for the young! All “job force entry level jobs” are taken as careers by immigrants.

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  19. BigFurHat

    August 30th, 2013

    Yes Abigail.

    And not to belabor this point, but I do want to make it.

    Entering college I wasn’t a lofo voter (my parents were political), but I was a disinterested voter.

    I voted for Reagan but I had no visceral hatred for the left and I remember having some left-leaning beliefs.
    Specifically I remember being passionately anti-Bernard Goetz. (Now I am passionately Pro-Bernard Goetz.)

    What got me interested in paying attention was when Reagan was shot. I saw, what I now know were leftist instructors, fist pump in the air when the news broke in the cafeteria that he was gunned down.

    Many years later, what got us interested in starting a blog was one of the many distracting posts that are run on The People’s Cube.

    So, you see, I actually take it very personally when some of the readers here write things such as “present” as a comment.
    Or get angry that a post doesn’t interest them, or say that any one story is a distraction as opposed to that REAL story out there that we are ignorant to.

    Yes, I do know that we occasionally run some fluff.
    A: it could be a magnet for people who do not enjoy or feel comfortable at a humorless, joyless political site.
    B: that one silly post could get someone interested in starting their own blog, like the People’s Cube one that captured Irony Curtain’s eye and he sent it around to all of us who eventually started this blog.

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  20. KatDog

    August 30th, 2013

    It’s easy to give up junk food at fast food restaurants when one can purchase a decent meal for the same or slightly higher costs.

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  21. J Frank Parnell

    August 30th, 2013

    It was over for McD when they succumbed to Africant extortion with “365 Black.”

    Burgers, employment, hospitality are all rayciss. Fast food justice!

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  22. Dr. Tar

    August 30th, 2013

    Here’s a nice piece with some more facts about minimum wage, fast food workers and the manipulation of loinfo voters to support the socialist agenda.

    http://www.rightwisconsin.com/perspectives/221645261.html

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  23. Jarhead Cracka

    August 30th, 2013

    If I were a franchise owner and the starting wage was upped to $15 an hour the first thing I’d do would be to eliminate free employee meals: “You guys got your $15 an hour, now you have to pay full price to feel the effect on the customers yourself.”

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  24. BigFurHat

    August 30th, 2013

    One more point and then I’ll leave, lol.
    Why not name names to make my point?

    If I either had to work all day at Red State, or read nothing but Red State all day, I would put a bullet in my own head.

    But that’s just me, if that’s someone’s particular cup of tea that is great and Red State does a great job for that sort of personality.

    I have to think there are others like me, so, thus, iOTW.

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  25. the aardvark

    August 30th, 2013

    So when are the riots going to begin when the price of fast food is so high that these poor schlubs can’t afford it and all the fast food places go out of business? IDIOTS!

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  26. Menderman

    August 30th, 2013

    I know this is a waste of time because no career burger flipper will ever read this, but here we go anyway.

    I charge $40 per hour. If I can bill out 2080 hours per year (40 hours/week for 52 weeks) I would bring in $83,200 per year. It doesn’t work that way, but I want to keep this simple for the “want fries with that” crowd. Let’s assume all that 83K is profit. Lets start with FICA. I pay both halves. That comes to about 15% or about $12,500. Now I am down to about 70K. Now I have to pay federal tax. That’s gonna be between 20-25% or about $16,000. Now I am down to $54,000. Next, I have to pay state tax. That’s about 12% in my state and would come to about $8500. So now I am down to about $45,000. Out of the 1/2 the government let me keep, I still have to pay various local taxes, fees etc that will scrape off about 10% of what remains, so I am down to about 40 grand a year. Welfare pays about 38K. My Obamacare is gonna be about $10,000 a year. So now I am down to 30K. If a burger flipper gets $15 per hour full time, they will earn $31,200 per year. The will get sick leave, vacation pay and “free” healthcare. Probably, most burger flippers will get some kind of earned income credit and pay zero in taxes…I see it all the time.

    Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this picture?

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  27. Burner

    August 30th, 2013

    following their twisted logic, if I earn $72,500/yr, I demand my boss raise my pay to $150,00/yr, just to keep up.
    I’ll go tell her now…..

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  29. BigFurHat

    August 30th, 2013

    Look at that Rightwinger and MNHawk.
    Bubba never linked us before.

    Damn.

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  30. TexasGunOwner

    August 30th, 2013

     
  31. Anonymous

    August 30th, 2013

    In the future fast food employees will make a living wage. There will be just one and their job will be to keep the burger making robots up and running.

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  32. MadJack

    August 30th, 2013

    Here’s my answer to those that want $15 bucks an hour to flip burgers.

    YOU’RE FIRED! :mad:

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  33. MadJack

    August 30th, 2013

    If the government forces me to pay $15 an hour for you to flip burgers, then first thing I am going to do is FIRE half of my employees and then make those of you that stay work twice as hard or I’ll fire you too.

    If the government inserts itself into the fast food business it will no longer be fast, efficient or inexpensive. The progressive left is hellbent on destroying anything Capitalistic that has worked in America for the past 100 years. :(

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  34. Jim

    August 30th, 2013

    What’s the investment for the franchise, plant and equipment average per store, a million? That’s a chickenfeed return on investment as it stands now, without any employee raises. Liberals do not care about unintended consequences, entrepreneurs should be punished for believing they can make a profit at anything.

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  35. norman einstein

    August 30th, 2013

    Whenever these pizza-faced mouth-breathers start hollering for more money, I can’t help but think of the auto industry.
    Back in the good old days, assembly line workers with minimal education were making shitloads of money. I knew a couple of them and as I struggled through college with my measly job, they made me want to puke.

    And then they killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.

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  36. Cynic

    August 30th, 2013

    The leftards need to realize that these are supposed to be entry level jobs. They aren’t supposed to be the kind of job where you support a family. You work here while in school or training for a real career. You know, the kind of job that Democrat taxes and regulation have forced overseas.

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  37. Stranded in Sonoma

    August 30th, 2013

    I got the following quote from this article. It’s from 2010 so the prices have probably gone up.

    A Quarter Pounder value meal at a McDonald’s in Los Angeles costs $5.69. A Quarter Pounder value meal at McDonald’s in Los Angeles International Airport costs $7.19.

    The author, Jason Kessler, chose to ignore what is truly causing the problem. The McDonald’s in LA pays their people the CA minimum wage of $8.00 per hour. However, at LAX, the workers at McDonald’s get paid just over $14.00 per hour.

    I’ll have to say I’m sorry right now for using reason, logic, common sense, math, and real-world examples to support my opposition to this typical liberal stupidity.

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  38. MM

    August 30th, 2013

    Menderman is correct about the minimum wage being used by unions to increase their own member’s wages.

    While no union worker makes the mw, when it is increased, most unions contracts use the mw as a baseline and their wages are increased along with the mw. Contracts that supposedly are locked in have provisions that once the mw is raised, the contract is open for renegotiation.

    There is also what is known as the “prevailing wage” Bidding on a government job(and it’s creeping into eh private sector) forces companies to pay union scale(if not outright be a union shop) no matter what the company does in fact pay it’s employees.

    So again, forcing up the mw, has a destructive ripple effect.

    With union membership at an all time low in the private sector, Trumka and his fellow union thugs are literally looking under rocks for any new revenue streams. Did you notice the protesters’ signs were quite professional? Dollars will get you donuts that most of the marchers were bussed.

    REgressivism is a cancer, it feeds on a host until it’s dead even if it means it’s own death. There are no limits, they’ll never stop much less let up for a bit.

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  39. MNHawk

    August 30th, 2013

    “Uh oh, another one to scratch off my bucket list! Getting a headline at IOTW! :-”

    Being on page 2 isn’t so shabby either. :-)

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  40. Ted Nougat

    August 30th, 2013

    I recall watching Obama speaking about jobs a few years back. He was basically saying that he just needed to convince businesses to hire more workers – as if businesses were just holding out on us, were flush with cash and really could be hiring workers, but just needed some persuading to do so. From government, of course.

    Fast forward to last weekend. I tuned in to CNN’s business show and there is Daniel Gross, the business editor for the Daily Beast. The lead-up to this segment called “Part Time America” included a strong reference to Obamacare being the reason for this new trend. I thought, wow, seriously? They are connecting the dots here?! On CNN?

    So Daniel Gross says about this “wage crisis” that “companies are not paying more because they don’t feel they have to.” He then said about why companies are not making people full-time: “they don’t feel the pressure to give them (workers) the terms that they want. ” The segment went on with Stephen Moore – who’s usually very good, not even addressing what this asshat just said and with no discussion at all about Obamacare in the part-time equation.

    The disconnect from reality on the Left is staggering. We have to understand that It’s a fundamentally different view of reality that we’re confronting here.

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  41. Jarhead Cracka

    August 30th, 2013

    I was in the small town of Bishop CA this week for work. Stopped at Jack in the Box for lunch, and noticed they had a self-order kiosk in front of the counter. I placed my order the old-fashioned way with an employee. But I wonder if any of those employees would strike for $15 knowing their “replacement” was already at work?

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  42. MadJack

    August 30th, 2013

    I believe the real reason behind this push for higher wages in the Fast Food industry is that about 90% of the jobs taken since Obozo became president are in the Fast Food industry. What better way to insure their vote than a pay increase and then the democRats touting what they have done for lower class Americans.

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  43. Torqued

    August 30th, 2013

    We never got free meals. We got reduced price meals.
    And any food left over at night had to be thrown away.

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  44. Carlos The Jackal

    August 30th, 2013

    The only people who will come out ahead:
    Unions.
    Those who collect taxes.

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  45. Turps

    August 30th, 2013

    All that will happen if a McMeal is worth $15 dollars is that Red Robin will be $22 and any real restaurant will be $50

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  46. Eleanor in Hell

    August 30th, 2013

     
  47. norman einstein

    August 30th, 2013

    @Eleanor, that was very interesting.

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  48. RosalindJ

    August 30th, 2013

    “The only people who will come out ahead:
    Unions.
    Those who collect taxes.”

    - Add the DNC to the list, because unions are basically a money-laundering machine for it.

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