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Stupak: Dems Told Me Funding Abortion Is Good, Because Kids Are Costly
From RedState:
Bart Stupak just had a revelation. And it’s a disturbing one.
Sitting in an airport, on his way home to Michigan, Rep. Bart Stupak, a pro-life Democrat, is chagrined. “They’re ignoring me,” he says, in a phone interview with National Review Online. “That’s their strategy now. The House Democratic leaders think they have the votes to pass the Senate’s health-care bill without us. At this point, there is no doubt that they’ve been able to peel off one or two of my twelve. And even if they don’t have the votes, it’s been made clear to us that they won’t insert our language on the abortion issue.”…
What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”
We knew this. For all their talk of pro-choice, the far left is actually pro-abortion. It’s about an agenda to them, not about life. And remember, not too long ago Senator Feinstein said it was “morally correct” to fund abortion. This just exposes the face underneath the mask a bit more. Now, it isn’t just about funding abortion, but using it as a cost-saving tool. Bart Stupak is realizing that now — in a moment of division with his party, he had some clarity. He is a Democrat insider and he sees this chilling reality in his own Caucus.
merle
March 13th, 2010
The new Hitler’s oven of 2010
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Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
The Brave New World cometh. Americans should not be burdened with children. Too costly. Merle has it right: Fire up the ovens, retrofit communal showers. May God help us all.
illustr8r
March 13th, 2010
Speechless.
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Betty
March 13th, 2010
This is frightening. Americans had better wake up.
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Comrade Whoopie
March 13th, 2010
@merle
Yes, buns in the oven.
Just think how many billions or even trillions of dollars we could save right now if we applied retro-active abortion to the members of Congress.
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mark
March 13th, 2010
Now that Stupak figured out how evil the DemocRAT leadership is, will he have the guts to do anything about it?
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simply amazed
March 13th, 2010
Mark asks the key question. I’m terribly afraid that I know the answer.
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had enuf mike
March 13th, 2010
Well,
I mentioned before, that we are the “final solution” to the problem at hand…. we better choose wisely!
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merle
March 13th, 2010
Democrats feel if they pass this H-care bill they will get re-elected well ,they will not get re-elected because THEY Tried ! 2010.
cfm990
March 13th, 2010
So tell me, Harry or Nancy,what is the cost per child? If you are so worried about the drain on resources,eat a bullet.
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FreeWillie
March 13th, 2010
I am armed (and that makes me a CITIZEN not a slave) . I will teach any that want to know how to shoot, reload ammunition, hunt, grow their own food, live off the grid. This nation has been usurped by people that wish to enslave us. I’ll have no part of that. I will die standing rather than live on my knees. Pfffffftttttt!
Reiuxcat
March 13th, 2010
Hey cfm, good to read you again.
It is indeed sad that the “cost savings” include money saved by not allowing children to be born in the name of “birth control”.
Zonga
March 13th, 2010
First they came for the unborn… then they came for the rest of the tax burdens: the old…the mentally handicapped… the chronically ill: they with held mammograms, cat scans, dialysis, insulin, and chemotherapy… and so on…
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Uncle Al
March 13th, 2010
Is it time yet? Is it time to stop talking about torches and pitchforks and start burning stuff and sticking people? If not now, then when, please? I just can’t see how voting some new folks into the same damned system can do anything except delay our arrival in Hell.
cfm990
March 13th, 2010
Thanks Cat.
They will counter with this argument. It’s not just financial. Environmental concerns must be taken into account etc etc etc. Yada yada yada infinity +1. Same ol shit from the same ol assholes. I am serious Libtards, if your worried about the drain, end your pain, off yourselves.
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merle
March 13th, 2010
So lets pass the bill so we can see whats inside ? Anything in it that says mandatory abortion for all single women ?
merle
March 13th, 2010
So now they are going to Re-Do ” No Child Left Behind, you have to let the child out of the Womb to accomplish this .
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Jimmy McW
March 13th, 2010
How can anyone be surprised? If you read Tom Daschle’s book or heard Robert Reich’s guest rant at Berkeley they are all about denying health care to certain groups(the elderly, those with dementia etc). The frigging president suggested that the hip replacement his grandmother(who as far as I can tell was the one feeding and clothing his ass) got was an unwise expenditure of taxes. Go to youtube and look up the audio of Reich speaking at Berkeley. If the things he says don’t scare you, the ovations he gets from the progressive douchebags in attendance will.
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Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
Welcome JimmyMcW. You are spot on buddy.
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Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
Uncle Al. I feel THEY are trying to change the system. From a republic governed by a Constitution, with a system of checks and balances, a loyal oposition, decent men (and women) on both sides.
Good people can change the present attitude towards
governing. There are good people there but they are out of power. I paraphrase Winston Churchill:
England is like a family, with the wrong people in that family, in charge. I am subscribing to Tim Cox
at GOOOH.com. Hope it helps
cfm990
March 13th, 2010
@ Jimmy McW
When you have survived abortion. When you are still years away from the euthanasia center. While you are still healthy, barring injury or disease standing ovations are easy. Those lecturing, make me sick. Those being lectured to, make me sad.
iOTW fan
March 13th, 2010
In addition to suffering from moral bankruptcy, liberals are simply missing the big picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBS6f-JVvTY
Uncle Al
March 13th, 2010
@Moe Tom – It seems likely that we are in full agreement except on this: you see the change to the system as in progress and I see it as so far along as to be practically irreversible. Other than that, we clearly are 100% together in the view that what has happened sucks, what is happening sucks, and what looks to be about to happen sucks.
And “sucks” is just a short stand-in word that really means “infuratingly progressive collectivist authoritarian anti-freedom anti-human ideological bloody-mindedness.” Or something along those lines.
merle
March 13th, 2010
Pro Abortion PARTY -,PARTEEEEEE at the WH yet ? And God Hears The silent screams from the womb.
Jenny
March 13th, 2010
The far left aren’t the only ones with ants in their pants to kill more, more, more babies in the womb. Decades and fifty million-plus infant cadavers after Roe v. Wade, even heretofore “decent” people now shrug off the horrors of abortion as if murdering a defenseless little baby has less moral significance than swatting at a fly.
And at a dizzying clip, the voices of those who are still appalled by this grisly reality are being ridiculed, shouted down, and all but drummed out of existence by supposed “God-fearing” people who have believed a lie, and who refuse to stand up and be counted for anything that diverges from the liberal party line.
Recently I was told by a Christian friend to be still, when I had conveyed to another individual that I was actively anti-abortion. My Christian friend told me that it was counter-productively antagonistic of me to point out my views, and that with my take-no-prisoners attitude I ran the risk of “alienating” someone who might be hurting because they or their daughter may have had an abortion.
To that I said (and say), well, if offending someone who funded an abortion, or embarrassing their co-worker who happens to be present in the room, is the only collateral damage from my standing up for what’s right (which costs me nothing), I’ll gladly be a loudmouthed fool for the little babies.
The champions of “Tiller the Killer” prate in a wounded howl that the good doctor was gunned down “in the presence of his family members” while attending church. To that I say, the womb is the original sanctuary, created and sanctioned by the true and living God, and every aborted child is murdered in that sanctuary, in the presence of the one family member who should never allow anyone to hurt them: their own mother.
Oh, and … Dianne Feinstein wouldn’t know “morally correct” from a recipe for banana bread.
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Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
Uncle Al. I’m afraid you are right. But there is still an ember smoldering in that fire. There are some good men and women out there who have learned a few lessons this past year. If they act from the heart they will be good for America. If they change because they see the political winds changing then we are pfucked because they have no heart. They will have to be carefully watched. I like Goooh.com.
cfm990
March 13th, 2010
@ Jenny.. I love you.
I Don’t give a flip what people think… To kill for convenience IS WRONG! Convince me otherwise. I DARE YOU.
Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
Jenny. I recently made a statement among friends at a very Catholic meeting. Had to do with abortion.
I was called aside after the meeting and told that I misspoke as one of our member’s daughter had an
abortion a year ago and he was upset about what I said about abortion. I had not known about his daughter’s problem. At the Bar after the meeting(that’s where business is done in most organizations), he confronted me with a “who the fu*k are you to say yadadada. I told him as diplomatically as possible to quit the organization,if he believed in abortion because his daughter got knocked up and decided to kill the baby. It was nasty and believe me neither of us made friends. But he knows he’s dead wrong. Tough call for a layman. But I know where I stand.
Menderman
March 13th, 2010
It really suprises me that no one that I have seen has compared our current political “crisis” to the great Sci-Fi flick “Soylent Green”. Overpopulated world, government suicide centers and limited resources of that 70’s film fit nicely with AGW, obamacare and cap and trade…
I think I’ll put that on my Netflix list to refresh my self on current events…
cfm990
March 13th, 2010
@ tom.
As a life long Catholic i hear you.
Yeah abortion sucks.
….Err..Umm, my little girl is an exception???
It doesn’t apply to all,does it?
Yes I feel all life is precious. Unfortunately,not all think as I. If catholics in this country skipped the cafeteria, and stuck to the menu, change COULD happen!
Moe Tom
March 13th, 2010
cfm990. I hate to judge but I have a belief, If one violates that belief and then blames me for having it. I have no defense but that belief. Abortion is murder.
Wyatt AARP
March 13th, 2010
To Progressives, it is the lives of the peasants and those less worthy than they that are cheap. Why insist on Federal funding for abortions unless you intend to encourage abortions among the poor? The limousine liberals could certainly afford abortions for their womenfolk if that was their “choice,” but that would not serve to keep the numbers of the filthy unwashed under control. The masses need abortion – not the elite – and therefore the all-knowing government must do what it can to encourage it, including paying for the procedure. This is Feinstein’s “moral choice.”
We have seen this movie before, and in point of fact there are still many people still living who have experienced it. Although the National Socialists of Germany (call a Nazi what he or she really was, I say) were righfully condemned for their atrocities, but in point of fact what they intended to do was rid their society of “undesireables.” Furthermore, many other world leaders stood by with full knowledge of these atrocities; after all, the victims were just the mental defectives, Gypsies, Slavs and Jews – none of which were the equals of their betters.
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merle
March 14th, 2010
@ Wyatt nice job so in a nutshell the poor and needy of this land will be preyed upon in the strong hand of the emperor and the first and second and third and fourth etc child of the indigent will have free goverment abortion healthcare so it pleaseath the counsil of the hearacry no good __________________–____________ and the weathly of contributor s will hearby be exzemt to to the new law of distrubution of wealth and of coursce the new law of donations of corperations to a political party also excuses any Killing of a Womb Babe .,.sorry about the spelling but it’s late and the river threat’s me big .,.
Wyatt AARP
March 14th, 2010
I guess my main point is that the elite and intellectuals consider life cheap for any group that is not a member of the elite or intellectuals.
merle
March 14th, 2010
Point Noted .,.,you speak good just testing your waters .,. bluemerle over at foxnation teaparty check it out
Jenny
March 14th, 2010
@Moe Tom @cfm990 There you go! Back at you. High five.
Chrissy5754 aka Walter'sGrammy :o)
March 14th, 2010
Reality Check … studies done in areas where abortion was, then wasn’t free showed what anyone with half a brain could figure out without a study.
I.e., when abortion is free, women are more careless about birth control.
Pro-aborts would have us believe that free abortion would protect all those poor women who are forced to endure motherhood for want of a few hundred bucks. As if.
The reality is that when abortion was free, the birth rate stayed the same. It was the CONCEPTION and ABORTION rates that went UP.
Duh.
The REAL reason pro-aborts want abortions in the health bill is so that abortions will be more profitable and abortion supporting Democrats can get more money from pro-abortion political donations.
Abortionists have learned that they cannot charge more than $300 to $500 per for a cash abortion.
Insurance pays thousands, not hundreds, for the same procedure. This is what they were getting 30 years ago and the problem is killing off the clinics in low income areas one by one.
(Cry me a river.)
Abortion is mainly about making money by killing blacks. It always has been. If you don’t believe me, go to http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Pro-life_Product/maafa.cfm