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This is Why I Hate Hero Worship

Home - by - March 9, 2010 - 09:45 America/New_York - 42 Comments

I hate it because, by and large, your heroes are eventually going to say something remarkably stupid. It’s just the way it goes. Even Ronald Reagan said that trees cause pollution.

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Is this the quote? NO. It’s just an ironic picture considering the completely moronic statements Beck recently made regarding Geert Wilders. Glenn Beck, woefully misinformed, has joined the *Charles Johnson, Max Blumenthal, Eric Boehlert, chorus of idiocy and labeled Geert “A FASCIST.”

Geert Wilders is a Robert Spencer, a Pamela Geller, a Wafa Sultan. These heroes are risking their LIVES to raise awareness of the only message of Islam –  jihad. Wilders is guilty of having an acute knowledge of what is happening in Europe, TO Europe – Islamification. Somehow, the left, the SECULAR left, thinks this is a wonderful thing. It’s just multiculturalism, and anyone who opposes it is a bigot, a fascist, a nazi.

Well, this isn’t “multiculturalism.” This is singular theocracy – something the left will traditionally abhor, or so they claim. Either the left is tragically misinformed and blind to jihad, or they applaud it. I think they applaud it. It seems that anything that threatens to destroy the west is just a-ok. And now Glenn Beck joins this chorus.

Way to go, Beck. You just earned enough demerits for me to not ever trust you again. An ear that tin will always make you untrustworthy in my book.

Here is Geert on Glenn Beck last year, before Beck was taken over by the pod people.

Glenn – there is NO MODERATE ISLAM. This is what you get when you go out on a limb with a guy that is largely fueled by emotion rather than brains. I’m not saying Beck isn’t smart, but he is a bit Howard Bealish for me, and this is what you will have to endure with him.

*Charles Johnson, once again, takes his unique position, the position of full retard. This is one of those Bizarro days, because I actually find myself agreeing with Glenn Beck. Geert Wilders is a far right ideologue, and the European far right does often equal fascism. How the heck did Beck ever get this one right?”

Keep in mind that Johnson wrote this 8 months before –  Just to be clear, I don’t label Wilders as a “fascist,” myself. However, there are twopositions he has expressed publicly that should be noted:” Great moments in asshattery provided by Charles Johnson. This isn’t Johnson “evolving.” This is Johnson being Glenn Beck, I think they share the same prescription.

Update:

I can tell you right now what Beck is going to say in his own defense, he said it already in the Wilders interview last year.

“You can’t just pick and choose which free speech you agree with. You have to back speech you abhor.”

Big giant blue ball in the sky to Beck…. we aren’t talking about SPEECH, unless you think beheadings, bombings, arson and physical intimidation is speech. 
People are being killed and places burned down for printing cartoons of Mohammad. So, who is assaulting free speech? The Dutch or Islam?
When your art or words gets you killed, war has been declared on free speech. You defend that by eradicating the  ”offended.”

How can Glenn Beck say “take our country back” and simultaneously label someone a fascist for saying the exact same thing in their country? 

» 42 Comments

  1. Grayscape

    March 9th, 2010

    Beck shocked me with that comment yesterday also. I’m willing to think he is just ignorant about Wilders….but that’ll change if the light bulb doesn’t come on.

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  2. cakes

    March 9th, 2010

    Scary comment from Beck. I go to Holland often for our art business and it is apparent Beck has never been to Schipol (nickname for mancakes and I – sh*thole) airport, muchless traveled the country. Wilders is doing what beck claims he is trying to do: claim back his country from radicals.

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  3. Snowball the Sourpuss

    March 9th, 2010

    Amen to that cakes. I have family in the Netherlands (vanWeerd) and they’re all rooting for Wilders, as are all of us here!

    Disclaimer: I’ve never watched Beck.

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  4. Doc

    March 9th, 2010

    “To tell an old family secret, my grandmother was Dutch”.

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  5. Diann

    March 9th, 2010

    I DVR Glenn Beck every day, and more often than not, I find myself shaking my head and saying, “Oh, I don’t agree with you on that, Glenn.” Unfortunately, he can get in a groove about something and just run with it without thinking it through.

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  6. HIppieCritic

    March 9th, 2010

    In general, all of FoxNews is very soft on Islam.

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  7. rebecca

    March 9th, 2010

    Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia, through his Kingdom Holding Company, owns 7% of News Corp.’s shares, making Kingdom Holdings the second largest shareholder.

    Ever since I found out about this, I look at everything on Fox News with a new slant. Maybe they can’t be actually dictated to by this guy (even though he is a huge contributor to CAIR), but the association is still hinky.

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  8. Matt

    March 9th, 2010

    I have long tought that Glen Beck might just be a little bit retarded. Its not that I do not agree with him sometimes….its just easy to see why the Left hates him. Like I am quite sure they understand why we hate Oldbeerman.

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  9. Comrade Whoopie

    March 9th, 2010

    As much as I like Beck, sometimes he troubles me. He lays out a good case why Socialism is a deadly threat to America, then recoils at any suggestion of using the only means that would guarantee the threat is removed once and for all. We have moved way past the point at which reasoned debate and trips to the voting booth will save the nation. If Beck doesn’t understand that, then he doesn’t really understand what he preaches every night. Either that or he himself is intimidated by the gov. And there is no difference between gov. censorship or self censorship borne out of fear of the gov.

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  10. Tammy

    March 9th, 2010

    I like Glenn Beck, and have learned a lot from him. He encouraged me to read more history, and I did.

    That being said, he also says things that are just STOOPID. And his attempts at humor often miss the mark. Big time.

    I take him with a grain of salt.
    And tequila.

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  11. BigFurHat

    March 9th, 2010

    I can tell you right now what Beck is going to say in defense, he said it already in the old Wilders interview.

    “you can’t just pick and choose which free speech you agree with.”

    Big giant blue ball in the sky to Beck…. we aren’t talking about SPEECH, unless you think beheadings, bombings and physical intimidation is speech. Jesus Christ, you are an idiot.
    People are being killed and places burned down for printing cartoons of Mohammad. So, who is assaulting free speech? The Dutch or Islam?
    Hey, Hitler was just practicing free speech.

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  12. Tammy

    March 9th, 2010

    I agree, BFH, and I’m a big follower of Atlas Shrugs, even before I found IOTW.

    I just think the guy(Beck) gets carried away and doesn’t realize what he’s saying sometimes.
    I’m not ready to jump on the I hate Beck bandwagon.
    Yet.

    He’s opened the eyes of millions of Americans, and he deserves some credit for that.

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  13. Doc

    March 9th, 2010

    Tammy, I’m with you on that. I’ve learned to turn on the Beck filter. He gets out there a little too far sometimes.

    Maybe we could get the guys with the really short haircuts up in Coeur D’Alene, Idaho to draw cartoons of Mohammud. Let them deal with the ragheads. My money’s on the skinheads.

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  14. Bigun

    March 9th, 2010

    He’s gotten infected by sitting too close to O’Reilly.

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  15. Alpha Maser

    March 9th, 2010

    Usually, I agree with Beck, but sometimes (and more often lately) he makes me cringe. I see a pattern with what a refer to as to truly “Libertarian” pundits as opposed to conservative. I threw Glenn, Mike Church and Ron Paul under the same “pure Libertarian” bus a bit back.
    http://maser-media.org/WordPress/?p=2077

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  16. Well...

    March 9th, 2010

    Not sure about this rant as it starts of with hitting Reagan for noting that trees emit pollution. Actually, they do and anyone who has been to the Smokies has experienced.

    So much for ignorant rantings. (Viva Wilders in any case!)

    Ummmm.. Reagan said, “trees emit more pollution than automobiles.”
    I love Reagan, but that statement was idiotic. If you’re going to stand by it, my opening salvo has been proven by you. Hero worship is a mother.-bfh

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  17. Uncle Al

    March 9th, 2010

    @bfh, and Well…

    Trees emit about 80% of the volatile organic compounds found in the air. That’s not a problem by itself. But those compounds combine with NOX from car exhausts to form ozone, which worked on by sunlight in particular, makes smog. A lot of smog, actually.

    So, to be pedantically nit-picky, it is neither correct nor incorrect to say that trees cause more air pollution than cars because it takes both trees and cars to produce an awful lot of our air pollution.

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  18. Grayscape

    March 9th, 2010

    Trees are definitely a problem….along with cars. I think the solution would be to make cars out of trees. That’ll learn ‘em.

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  19. Uncle Al

    March 9th, 2010

    @Grayscape – ever drive a Morgan sports car? You never had to worry about the frame rusting on you, but you did have to worry about dry rot!

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  20. Tim

    March 9th, 2010

    Suffice it to say that one’s working definition of “pollution” makes the statement foolish or not.
    Hero worship is stupid all on it’s own. I cannot think of a single figure, historical or contemporary, with whom I always agree. Mr. Beck is doing much to enlighten this country – that he proves to be human – and say stupid shit – should not surprise.

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  21. Chris

    March 9th, 2010

    “You can’t just pick and choose which free speech you agree with. You have to back speech you abhor”
    This requirement of “backing speech you abhor” is itself a violation of the basis of free speech. Free speech means you are entitled to YOUR opinion, not just that of someone else.
    This smacks too much of PC-speak to be taken seriously, and it definitely tarnishes any validation Glenn might have in his other positions.
    I also have noticed also a definite dhimmi-leaning of Fox, on the few occaisions when I watch TV. Perhaps you’re correct in thinking “follow the $$$” has to do with that.
    Perhaps also Glenn pickled his brain a little too much before he jumped on the wagon.

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  22. Chris

    March 9th, 2010

    and perhaps also I should also proofread by posts.

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  23. Tim

    March 9th, 2010

    “I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
    This is the sentiment.

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  24. Tim

    March 9th, 2010

    I hate to do re-runs, but –
    if you criticize Christians, they call you a dumbass;
    if you criticize Moslems, they cut off your head.

    It takes a great amount of courage for a public figure to take that plunge.

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  25. Uncle Al

    March 9th, 2010

    @Tim, used to be that if you criticized Christians, they’d torture you and burn you at the stake. I sure am glad they got that little quirk out of their system some time back.

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  26. Tim

    March 9th, 2010

    Uncle Al,
    That was reserved for fellow Christians.
    I’d like to see the Christians take a tad stronger view. Defend the faith, if you will. Killing isn’t necessary.

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  27. Uncle Al

    March 9th, 2010

    @Tim – Point taken – In general you are quite right. There were a few times when the Spaniards gimmicked the system here in the New World, though. Sprinkle some water, mumble “Domine Domine” a few times, and Mirabile Dictu! that tribe of former heathens were suddenly Catholic sinners. Wham! Didn’t know what hit them. Again, good thing that’s over with.

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  28. Grayscape

    March 9th, 2010

    @Al – Actually it was Catholics who slaughtered Christians 500+ years ago. Today Muslims slaughter and enslave Christians by the millions and nobody cares.

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  30. Jayne

    March 9th, 2010

    While accosted by some liberals at one of last year’s teaparty, I proudly answered their query “No, I don’t watch Glen Beck”. That didn’t get me anywhere with them, but it was honest. And even though I saw some of his stuff at the gym which I thought was good, I was never comfortable with him, and then the Sarah Palin interview in which he asked such doofus questions sealed it for me – no Glen Beck. I stick with Bret Baier’s show on Fox.

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  31. BigFurHat

    March 9th, 2010

    @al
    Great. You’re being pedantic AND wrong. A twofer. Why don’t you go on to say that the sun causes pollution, after all it’s in the triumvirate of what’s needed to create the smog. Photochemical smog is only created with the addition of exhaust from cars and smokestacks, it won’t occur between the trees and sun alone. It’s like saying the match and the wick causes the explosion, not the bomb.
    And besides, biogenic volatile organic compounds are not produced by every species of tree, and even with the right species it’s not every phase of that trees life.
    Nice try, though.
    Reagan’s statement was asinine. And I like Reagan. He was just consulted by someone who has no idea what they were talking about… BTW, where were you??? hehe

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  32. Jayne

    March 9th, 2010

    If Reagan said trees cause pollution, he was most likely referring to the environazis definition of pollution which is basically everything but rocks. Reagan was an angel, a fallen angel, but an angel nonetheless.

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  33. BigFurHat

    March 9th, 2010

    Reagan wasn’t being snarky, he was trying to make a legitimate point, and it wasn’t legitimate.
    He was trying to make the point that trees cause more pollution than automobiles, as if the trees would pollute without the cars. Asinine.
    The VOC’s that trees emit are not harmful until they react with exhaust and sunlight.
    Again, it’s like blaming the match for your lung cancer.
    stupid stupid stupid. He was misguided by some sleazy corporate guy with a report who thought he could semantically sway people into blaming trees for pollution.
    Bad moment in the GREAT Ronald Reagan’s career

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  34. mark

    March 9th, 2010

    Listen up guys … BFH is right. President Reagan was a man and fallible. He had a bad moment … not a big deal in the big scheme of things.

    It’s not like he couldn’t sell the IOC on Chicago.

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  35. BigFurHat

    March 9th, 2010

    Agreed, Mark.
    And it’s the desperation to explain away a horrible moment in an otherwise great man’s career that bugs me. THAT’S hero worship. THAT’S dangerous.
    That’s like believing Kim Jong Il broke par when he played golf, like he told everyone.
    In the big picture, weighed against others, I’ll take Reagan, AND accept that he effed up.

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  36. Uncle Al

    March 9th, 2010

    OK, bfh, I see your point. VOCs from trees are a necessary component for smog-making but the trees are not themselves the polluters.

    I do have it all figured out, though. Should’ve been obvious all along. Doh! Pollution is caused by the EPA.

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  37. Jayne

    March 9th, 2010

    bfh- when you make your italicized comments on someone’s post it’s impossible for people to then mark thumbs up or down, because you can’t indicate your thumbs up for the original comment or your-bfh comment. I give a thumbs up to Well…

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  38. Moe Tom

    March 9th, 2010

    Fu*k the trees. Geert Wilders is fighting for his
    country which is practically lost to islamofasicm.
    Most of Europe is going down the drain and uncle al
    continues with his bullshit, and you all get swayed
    by it. Uncle Al is a smart fellow but he does not believe in American exceptionalism. He is a constant critic and a constant pain in the balls.

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  39. Ilíon

    March 10th, 2010

    I hate it because, by and large, your heroes are eventually going to say something remarkably stupid. It’s just the way it goes. Even Ronald Reagan said that trees cause pollution.

    But Reagan was correct in the way he meant it, in the context in which he said it.

    Just because the “liberals” have distorted/misrepresented what Reagan said, doesn’t make what he said false or stupid.

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  40. Ilíon

    March 10th, 2010

    But, yes, we should not engage in hero worship. Let’s leave that anti-rationalism for the “reality-based community.”

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  41. Uncle Al

    March 10th, 2010

    @moe tom – Hey, man, this is just a blog. You think what I’m saying is going to influence foreign policy???

    I guess I have to say it again:

    I am happy and proud to be an American and do believe that our society is exceptional and should be a model for anyone to follow.

    I also do believe that cramming it down the throats of the unwilling detracts in a major way from that exceptionalism. The ethical way to showcase our exceptionalism is by example. If you want to impose it by force, you’ve been seduced by the Dark Side and need to spend more time with Yoda.

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