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Pamela Geller is a Shrieking Harpy Flashback!!!

Home - by - May 6, 2013 - 09:35 America/New_York - 39 Comments

UPDATE- This is why we always said “get well soon” to Marezilla. When she’s feeling well, this counter-jihadist is filled with righteous piss and vinegar.

(And for the concern trolls, I will title this post THE CIRCULAR FIRE SQUAD, OH MY!!!!)

I went over to Ace of Spades, and Weasel Zippers, to see if there is a post about their boy, David Stein. I can’t seem to find one.

Let me tell you why this name, and the story, should be important to them.

Remember when Pamela wrote the story about Aga Khan, the Muslim who courted Rick Perry and convinced him to include an Islamic curriculum in Texas schools that taught a revisionist whitewashed history of Islam?

Remember how Ace channeled Little Green Footballs and urged his morons to call Pamela all sorts of vile names because he was going to destroy anyone that dared vet his chosen candidate Rick Perry, and remember when Zip fell in line and told Robert Spencer that he would no longer link to him if he continued to link to Atlas Shrugs?

Remember how the stories of concerned Texas parents came pouring through the news cycle as their kids were asked to don burqas when the Islamist push began appearing in the schools? Remember how Ace and Zip ate a bit of crow and wrote their mea culpa articles about how Pamela was right? (Ya, I don’t remember that one either.)

Well, David Stein was their go-to boy that they linked and quoted in order to refute Pamela’s claim that Perry was approving a white-washed Islamist soul kiss that was going to be included in our children’s teachings.

Well, Stein was wrong.

But, who the hell is Stein?

I remember at the time Pamela asking, “who is this guy that these two are holding up as this authority? Who the hell is David Stein?”

Well, this weekend we found out.

David Stein, the founder of Republican Party Animals, and the owner of the site, Counter Contempt, was revealed to be the famous Holocaust Denier, David Cole, who went into hiding in 1998.

Isn’t that nice?

Ace of Spades, and Weasel Zippers, continually relied on the work of this despicable cretin to justify their attempt to marginalize and excommunicate Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. Roll that one around in your heads for awhile.

Ace and Zip pointed and laughed at Pamela’s vetting of Perry while heavily relying on the work of a guy they never vetted.

The work of some closeted neo-nazi jerkwad was “good enough” in order to smear Geller.

I went over to Weasel Zippers and used his search feature to try and resurrect some of the old David Stein stories that he aggregated.


Page not found. The url is still listed, however. Look at the spiffy title- David Stein, the holocaust denier, offers a BRUTAL TAKEDOWN of the Rick Perry Stealth Jihadist Nonsense.

Next up, David Stein offers up a BRUTAL TAKEDOWN of the gas chamber nonsense.

Here’s Klavan with some of this story.

Here’s The Guardian with a broader picture.

Huge hat tip to Marezilla who was tweeting all day about this story. @ZillaStevenson


  1. OpenTheDoor

    May 6th, 2013

    “Remember how Ace channeled Little Green Footballs…” BFH

    That right there is some funny stuff Fur.

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  2. J Frank Parnell

    May 6th, 2013

    LGF is a case study in How To Flame Out in The Internet Age.

    Anybody there remembers the brutal intolerance once a member stepped (a toe) beyond Charles’ orthodoxy. It was the internet version of a Stalinist purge; one minute you’re there, next erased.

    Whoever wrote liberalism is based on projection was a freaking genius.

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  3. super toe

    May 6th, 2013

    I remember this turd from that Donahue show when it aired. He sounded like a weasel then and now. He actually argued with a Holocaust survivor from Auschwitz that Donahue had in the audience. The woman showed him the tattoo number she received as a child.

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  4. Gryph

    May 6th, 2013

    Nice job Ace and Zip. NOT.

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  5. thirdtwin

    May 6th, 2013

    He’s probably married to a muslima svengali, like Weiner is.

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  6. Gryph

    May 6th, 2013

    I wonder if Ace will say something about this at the HQ, or if it will be embarrassingly flushed down the memory hole.

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  7. WiscoDave

    May 6th, 2013

    BFH – I used to comment frequently over at WZ and would send Drew stories that he sometimes used. You may also recall that I commented in his defense here when you had the story. During that time I exchanged emails with Drew urging him to come to his own defense. All I got in response is how much he had lost in speaking out against islam, etc. He would not directly address the issue when I asked him.
    You were correct.
    I still visit the site (much changed it has) but don’t comment.
    More importantly, I no longer contribute monetarily.
    Times are changing for the worse in the world – who you stand with and what you stand for are more critically important than ever…

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  8. Stranded in Sonoma

    May 6th, 2013

    Do these jihadi deniers WANT to die stupid? They are not part of the solution and truly have become part of the problem. Hey Ace and WZ, if Bill Maher can figure out evil islam is, why can’t you?

    See comment below – bfh

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  9. Czar of Defenestration

    May 6th, 2013

    Time to “ask for comment” over at those sites.

    Ace *might* have the balls to “recant”; I hold *no* hope out for Dhimmi Zippers.

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  10. grayscape

    May 6th, 2013

    Yet another example of the alliance of musloids, progressives, and Nazis.

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  11. Jimmy

    May 6th, 2013

    Ace can rationalize anything. I don’t read there any more.

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  12. Billy Fuster

    May 6th, 2013

    Another attempt to infiltrate thwarted. Good job.

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  13. Mary Jane Anklestraps

    May 6th, 2013

    Oh I think those two (WZ and Ace) believe in jihad and all. But I don’t think it bothers them enough to think it could spread to our country’s inner workings- Such as schools, especially when their candidates or personal friends may be involved, etc. And that is just as dangerous.

    As for Ace, a lot of my friends had stopped going after they saw how “women who disagreed with ace’s standards” were treated. Plus for some reason, they weren’t allowed to call Mich a wookie, yet they could call Pamela a big titted whore. Weird, right?

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  14. RosalindJ

    May 6th, 2013

    “The reason we were all so pissed at him is it plays into every horrible stereotype about the right.”


    IME, the Holocaust Denial crowd is the purview of the left, you hypocrites. They’re just not as left as the other progs.

    BFH, the link to the article is still live via the wayback machine. And it goes directly to his article (his being Stein, that is): http://web.archive.org/web/20111001193859/http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/1982

    Here are two links to the attempt by AoS to justify their perspective. And yes, Stein is mentioned.

    Good on you, Marezilla for getting this out there. I haven’t been very active on twitter lately. It’s a huge consumer of time to get through it. Or maybe I’ve just never gotten a good grip on it.

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  15. BigFurHat

    May 6th, 2013

    Wisco -
    I do not go full retard without having my ducks in a row.

    Weasel Zippers made a choice to pursue commerce rather than truth. Good for him.
    With the promise of commerce and increased traffic he had to answer to shitstains who have an axe to grind with Pamela Geller and he was told what to do.

    Ask yourself, how in the world is Pamela Geller’s work not a natural fit for all of the other stuff Weasel Zipper’s aggregates all day long?

    Answer: It’s not a fit when the people who Zip gives an anal tongue bathing to tells him it’s not a fit.

    I sleep well at night.

    Another complete retard is John Hawkins, who ran a contest for best blogger and when Robert Spencer won, Hawkins, like the errand boy he is, told Spencer that in order to receive his award he couldn’t talk about any of the things that earned his award. It would have upset the Muslims.

    Keep your eye on this impending implosion.
    Hawkin’s is a money whore who is currently concocting schemes on how to suck money out of the conservative political blogs.

    Hawkins is participating in payola.
    The deal is, he will drive traffic to your site through his aggregation sites for a price.
    He takes half your revenue for sending you traffic.

    Very, very scummy.

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  16. Czar of Defenestration

    May 6th, 2013

    “Hawkins is participating in payola.
    The deal is, he will drive traffic to your site through his aggregation sites for a price.
    He takes half your revenue for sending you traffic.
    Very, very scummy.”

    Fur, I think you’ve just coined the term

    No, I think you just did! -bfh

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  17. BigFurHat

    May 6th, 2013

    Ace and Weasel are not dhimmis.
    They understand the threat of Sharia.

    It’s just that Ace couldn’t put aside his personal beef with Pamela and crossed over from merely not liking her to trying to rally people into marginalizing her, calling her crazy and generally going full Charles Johnson.

    As time passes Ace looks more and more idiotic on this front.

    Zip just does whatever anyone that can boost his revenue tells him to do.
    And he takes his marching orders from Ace.

    If Ace told Zip that the key to traffic and revenue was to be pro-amnesty and pro gay marriage his new blogging name would be Diego Mapplethorpe.

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  18. RosalindJ

    May 6th, 2013

    Lol! Diego Mapplethorpe..I swan yew hayuv coined a great new name for the two of them.

    Sorry – I forgot about the link limit ^.

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  19. BigFurHat

    May 6th, 2013

    I am a lot of things, asshole included,
    but in this you can trust me.

    Pamela Geller does not turn ONE THIN DIME from what she does.
    Right or wrong, what she does is from righteous indignation.
    It is authentic, passionate and SELFLESS.

    I’ve been the one who has been trying to monetize her site.
    She doesn’t even think in those terms. I was horrified when I learned that her site was running in the red.

    She lost her google ads years ago because she was branded a hate site.
    Did she palliate her message in order to increase revenue?
    No, she continued on, not worrying about it at all.

    Everyone can use the revenue, certainly I’ve looked for ways to turn a buck. The difference is, I don’t change my message in order to satisfy the advertisers. I changed advertisers.

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  20. WiscoDave

    May 6th, 2013

    BFH- That was one of the difficult things for you to get into my hard head.
    Drew does bash islam on a regular basis BUT by turning your back on others doing the same just because you are told to puts you on the wrong side of the argument.
    The evil that is islam must be struck at as one or we may surely be struck down separately.

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  21. Stranded in Sonoma

    May 6th, 2013

    @BFH — So they know that sharia is bad but just choose to go with what their advertisers want. I understand that this is their job. They have to make the boss happy. They’re protecting their revenue stream to protect their job. I get it.

    Then they’re worse than deniers. They’re ignorers for money. And remember that ignore has the same root as ignorant.

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  22. BigFurHat

    May 6th, 2013

    It’s a choice, and it is a tough one.
    If you’ve gotten yourself to the point where you’ve become very big and you make a living on the revenue your work creates you get paranoid that it can all come crashing down when advertisers pull out because you’ve been branded a hate site.

    I’m not condemning Zip for making that choice. I condemn him for going that extra step and contacting other sites to say they had to drop Atlas or he wouldn’t link to them anymore.
    The 2 degrees of separation was still unacceptable to the paranoid, Nixonian Zip and he engaged in a sort of extortion when he made that demand.

    And I’m positive this was a combination of fearing advertisers would drop him if he was branded a hate site, and he feared lack of linkage from the sites that had a personal gripe with Pamela.

    Meanwhile, Malkin started the #iStandWithPamela hashtag on twitter, and suddenly Pamela and Robert are not looking so crazy.

    I believe these two, Ace and Zip, made a horrendous misstep and this footing of theirs, on the wrong side of history, is going to make them look extremely foolish.

    There is still time for redemption, and I would gladly link both of their sites if they would just acknowledge how wrong they are.
    I don’t hold petty grudges. I don’t even know them. I don’t link because they are wrong for what they do to Pamela Geller.

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  23. [...] Via iOwnTheWorld: [...]

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  24. Zilla

    May 6th, 2013

    Took me a little longer than I’d anticipated to get my post together, but it gave me a chance to include the above along with a link to Pamela’s new one on this. Here’s mine:

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  25. Anonymous

    May 6th, 2013

    I’ll stand with Geller anyday over a weasel(weasel…how apropo).

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  26. 13times

    May 6th, 2013

    Ace “going full Charles Johnson.”

    We all know this to be untrue, so why say it?

    Gellar’s fanbois = Johnson’s commissars =/= Ace’s morons.

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  27. MooMoo

    May 6th, 2013

    Yeah 13times because Pamela Geller is like CfnJ she plays the race card and bans people for criticizing Obama.

    You dumbarse.

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  28. 88Savant

    May 6th, 2013

    Obviously 13times needs to read the post 13 more times, because he just didn’t get the point the first time. And I guess it’s why they call themselves… What?

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  29. Gryph

    May 6th, 2013

    “Ace and Weasel are not dhimmis.
    They understand the threat of Sharia.”

    I don’t think they do, BFH. If they really understood the threat of sharia, they’d sound more like Rober Spencer and Pamela Geller and less like — well — Ace and Weasel.

    Counterjihad is just that: countering jihad. I don’t see near enough of it on most “conservative” sites as I think would be proper.

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  30. SocialismisOuroboros

    May 6th, 2013

    ‘Zilla, Pam Geller and Robert Spence are beyond reproach, in my opinion, when it comes to fighting the 7th century barbaric disease called Islam.

    I remeber when wordpress tried to shut down BareNaked Islam and it was Geller who led the fight against wordpress. BNI is still up and run without word press, thanks in no small part to Geller and Spence.

    WZ, AoS and Hawkins have sold themselves to the highest bidder when it comes to addressing this disease that they and their paymasters are allowing to metastisize in our country.

    Hawkins’ tentacles are found in places that might surprise one. He owns 50% of a satirical site called The Looking Spoon. A site which lambasts everything left/liberal, except, you guessed it, the 7th century disease called Islam.

    I will continue to support Zilla, Geller, Jihad Watch, Barenakedislam, and found it refreshing that IOTW came to Pam’s defense in a no holds barred fashion. A fashion conservatives and the right needs to fight the left/socialists and their islamic cohorts. A style necessary to call out conservatives and the right when they are unwilling to broach the barbarians and their ideology of hate and destruction.

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  31. Gryph

    May 6th, 2013

    Come on, Weasel. Ace. If you’re reading this, at what point does this kind of misfeasance become embarrassing? Especially you, Ace. You put the “ass” in embarrassing.

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  32. [...] Via iOwnTheWorld: [...]

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  33. not the droid you seek

    May 6th, 2013

    BFH writes: Well, David Stein was their go-to boy that they linked and quoted in order to refute Pamela’s claim that Perry was approving a white-washed Islamist soul kiss that was going to be included in our children’s teachings.

    Good luck (sarc) to anyone trying to “refute” Pamela Geller, she does her research and gets back-ups to her back-ups before she heads out with something. She had the internet archive of the Texas curriculum linked when everybody was trying to “prove” it didn’t exist.

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  34. tek

    May 6th, 2013

    Czar of Defenestration: ‘Ace *might* have the balls to “recant”; I hold *no* hope out for Dhimmi Zippers.’

    Ol’ Aces & Eights has certainly had a history of banning users (me among them, for making a demonstrably true comment about impropriety regarding voter registration rolls) and purging every comment they ever made. I’d bet against it.

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  35. Name Redacted™

    May 7th, 2013

    I’ve attended an RPA event. I’ve met this guy. I want to throw up.

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  36. [...] Geller weighs in here; Big Fur Hat has a terrific takedown of Ace and Weasel here, and Zilla has another here. Big Fur Hat gets right to the heart of the matter: “Ace and Zip [...]

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  37. Zilla

    May 7th, 2013

    Shockingly (NOT), there are still no apologies or retractions from AoS or WZ. I guess they are perfectly fine with what they have done and with what David ColeStein has done. Or do you think it’s possible that they don’t KNOW about this yet? Because you know, they are so ‘big and important’ that they probably don’t read any of OUR blogs! Hmmm… how can we help make them aware of what exactly they got into bed with when they decided to launch baseless attacks on Geller & Spencer?

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  38. DL

    May 8th, 2013

    Ace’s silence = evidence that Ace is owned. By whom…your guess is as good as mine. But if he (whoever he is) had 1/10th in righteous integrity he lays on thick in every other post, including laborious film reviews, he’d have mea culpa’d already.

    For all the fun lots of these folks made of Charles Johnson, and rightly so, they’ve become virtual clones.

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  39. [...] Geller weighs in here; Big Fur Hat has a terrific takedown of Ace and Weasel here, and Zilla has another here. Big Fur Hat gets right to the heart of the matter: “Ace and Zip [...]

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