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The term “gun buyback” is a misnomer, in that a government cannot buy back something that it never owned in the first place. However, in Santa Fe, N.M., organizers of a city-sponsored event billed as a gun “buyback” even managed to get the “buy” part wrong, and violated the privacy of the participants in the process.

The Santa Fe turn-ins (a more apt term) were held on Jan. 12 and Feb. 9, and after running out of the $25,000 in debit cards allotted for the event, organizers began issuing I.O.U.s. Participants’ names, telephone numbers, addresses and firearms were recorded, with the promise that they would receive payment for their guns shortly. Lino Ortiz, who turned in two handguns at the Feb. 9 event, told local media in an article that appeared on the 19th, “I’ve yet to be compensated for it. They said they would have us a debit card last week, but I called the Finance Department, and the lady down there told me, ‘Well, we still haven’t gotten them yet.’”

Adding insult to injury, the list of the dozens of people who received I.O.U.s was then made part of the public record when it was distributed at a Santa Fe City Council Finance Committee meeting on Feb. 18. Democratic State Legislator Brian Egolf (D-47), who turned in guns at the event, was among those upset with release of the information, stating, “My concern is, for those who do wish to remain anonymous, that there be a way for them to do so and for them to be able to rely on the city’s assertion that they’ll remain anonymous.” Police Chief Ray Rael was surprised at the release of the personal information, having been told that participant anonymity would be respected, stating, “It shouldn’t have happened, but it did… I apologize on behalf of the city, I don’t think that information should’ve been out there.”

Such turn-in events serve as propaganda for gun controllers, are a burden on the taxpayer, and serve no public safety purpose. A January 4 National Institute of Justice memo outlining President Obama’s gun control options states, “Gun buybacks are ineffective as generally implemented.” The author goes on to point out, “The guns turned in are at low risk of ever being used in a crime.”

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  1. Jack Daniels

    February 24th, 2013

    Note to all you liberal idiots:

    This is your life, these are your ‘friends’ who entice you to turn in your guns, leave you unprotected and then punish you by letting every criminal out there know you are now unarmed…and will NOT in turn, protect you.

    You will be the first in the round-up, the first to be sent to re-education camps, the first to fall under the new counter-revolution act.


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  2. sig94

    February 24th, 2013

    Gun control is worse that that, it empowers violent criminals who no longer fear encounters an armed victim. Crime got so bad in England that they had to revamp the way their criminal justice crime statistics are reported.

    In Australia through 2006 there has been a 42% increase in violent crime since the national weapons ban in 1997. While it is true that the number of gun related homicides in Australia has decreased, the number of people killed with knives and other cutting instruments has increased by almost the same amount.

    Australian woman are three times more likely to be raped than their counterparts in America.

    The number of armed robberies almost tripled by 2001 then decreased; but still are at higher levels than pre-gun ban.

    Felony assaults have almost doubled.

    Criminals and nut-jobs are gonna do what criminals and nut-jobs do. All the government can do is either make it easier or harder for them to cut our throats.

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  3. sig94

    February 24th, 2013

    I forgot to include the references for the Brits’ bastardization of their crime stats.

    Here is one.

    More recently, a 2000 report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary charges Britain’s 43 police departments with systemic under-classification of crime – for example, by recording burglary as “vandalism.” The report lays much of the blame on the police’s desire to avoid the extra paperwork associated with more serious crimes.

    Britain’s justice officials have also kept crime totals down by being careful about what to count.

    “American homicide rates are based on initial data, but British homicide rates are based on the final disposition.” Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually dropped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts as nothing at all. “With such differences in reporting criteria, comparisons of U.S. homicide rates with British homicide rates is a sham,” the report concludes.

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  4. grayjohn

    February 24th, 2013

    Any legally owned gun is at low risk of being used in a crime you libtard, lickspittle, jackoffs!

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  5. Cruisin Cat

    February 24th, 2013

    People, don’t trust government!
    ANY government!

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  6. Billy Fuster

    February 24th, 2013

    @Crusin Cat: Exactly. Only a fool would trust the government. Unfortunately there are many fools among us.

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  7. Goldenfoxx

    February 24th, 2013

    LMAO! Turn in your gun and you get Jack $hit in return. Serves you right! If you can’t be trusted with a gun you can’t be trusted with taxpayer money. I love the story of a gun shop owner setting up shop at a cash for gun event put on by the city. Gun owner said “I will pay you more for your gun.” LOL! Nothing the city could do about it and the gun shop guy scored.

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  8. Navigator

    February 24th, 2013

  9. Stew Pid

    February 24th, 2013

    I watched the CBS news yesterday( because I wanted to See B.S. ). They were showing a buyback program in L.A. In the background I saw them putting guns into a barrel, and someone had turned in a sawed off shotgun!
    After the report, the anchor chick said ” CBS is a proud co-sponsor of this program”.(???) ( media bias much?)

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  11. aliswell

    February 24th, 2013


    Thanks for listing those stats and their sources. Excellent work!

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  12. Wraith

    February 24th, 2013

    Before taking the government’s word on anything, take a road trip to your local reservation and ask Joe Running Bear or Willa Two Eagles how doing so worked out for their people.

    Alternately, see if you can find a Japanese-American whose parents or grandparents were guests of FDR back in WWII. Or ask some Black folks aroud Tuskeegee, Albama how successful that syphilis treatment program was.

    If you trust the government, you absolutely deserve the ass-raping you will undoubtedly receive.

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  13. sig94

    February 24th, 2013

    @Aliswell -I am so sick and tired of the constant barrage of BS regarding gun control. The raw data is out there, it’s not hard to find and it is not rocket science to conduct some elementary trend analysis.

    I have my suspicions about this. We are about to enter another government caused depression that will make the Great Depression look like a prom dance. The politicians are gearing up to control us from manifesting our displeasure at this disastrous turn of events. We’ll want to hang the whole filthy lot of them from utility poles like Christmas lights when that happens. IMHO it’s long overdue.

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  14. Mary Jane Anklestraps

    February 24th, 2013

    “I’ve yet to be compensated for it. They said they would have us a debit card last week, but I called the Finance Department, and the lady down there told me, ‘Well, we still haven’t gotten them yet.’”

    Haaahahahaha!!! Did this guy even check to see if the city had the cash to “buy back” anything?

    Why would criminals bring in a gun? So they can get his/her info and find out they have warrants?
    THINK, people! LOL

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