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The Boy Scout of America is considering ending its longstanding national membership restrictions based on sexual orientation.

Under the change now being discussed, the different religious and civic groups that sponsor Scout units would be able to decide for themselves how to address the issue — either maintaining an exclusion of gays or opening up their membership.

Monday’s announcement of the possible change comes after years of protests over the policy — including petition campaigns that have prompted some corporations to suspend donations to the Boy Scouts.

Deron Smith, a spokesperson for the Boy Scouts of America, said in a statement that the BSA is discussing potentially removing the national organization’s restriction, allowing membership and the selection of scout leaders to be determined by local chartered organizations “consistent with each organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs.

“The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee and deliver scouting to determine how to address this issue,” Smith said.

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Meet your new Scout Master, Chester. Note blond mustache.

 

» 47 Comments

  1. Jerry Manderin

    January 28th, 2013

    NAMBLA is chompin’ at the bit to tie those kids up in knots.

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  2. CrustyB

    January 28th, 2013

    Homosexuals represent between 2 and 4% of the population but account for 33% of child molesters. The BSA may as well be merging with NAMBLA.

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  3. Bad Brad

    January 28th, 2013

    Chester, as in Chester the Molester? They allow this to happen the ranks and membership in the Boy scouts will drop like a rock. Not many parents are going to let there children spend an over niter with some one that appreciates the same plumbing as they have.

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  4. grayscape

    January 28th, 2013

    Why can’t progfucks create their own boy scouts and leave ours alone? Because all they can do is hate and destroy.

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  5. Dan Ryan Galt

    January 28th, 2013

    “Paging Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings….paging Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings.”

    Pack your jammies and the Deep Woods Off and wipe that smile from your face.

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  6. harbqll

    January 28th, 2013

    Funny. I just submitted this to the Bullpen not 5 minutes ago. I think my Headline was punnier:

    Boy Scouts to allow entrance to gays…

    Seriously though, I can only assume this means the Girl Scouts will be openng their ranks to Hetero males? After all, if it’s ok for a gay man to take a bunch of teen boys alone and unsupervised for a multi-day camping trip, I don’t see why I can’t do the same with a bunch of teen girls.

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  7. persecutor

    January 28th, 2013

    The progtards want the BSA to cease to exist and it looks like the BSA is being very accommodating to them.

    The next thing the progs will demand that patriotism not be taught and after that, why don’t we have atheist scout leaders.

    End of the line there Scouts. It was a nice run while it lasted.

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  8. Diann

    January 28th, 2013

    Fox
    Henhouse

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  9. Mary Jane Anklestraps

    January 28th, 2013

    Why in the world do gays feel like they need to announce who they like to sleep with?

    Let the local chapters decide who they want in. Sheesh.

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  10. AbigailAdams

    January 28th, 2013

    Another character-building, red- blooded American institution under attack by cultural Marxists. I know I wouldn’t allow a son of mine to be exposed to potential rape.

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  11. jclady

    January 28th, 2013

    I’m so glad my kids are grown.

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  12. Left Coast Dan

    January 28th, 2013

    I have been an active Assistant Scoutmaster for the last 20 years, with the troop in which I earned Eagle Scout. After the hoopla more than 10 years ago, our troop and council wrote a letter to National stating that we are an open troop, and accepting of homosexual scouts, parents and leaders. I can tell you that we have had several Eagles who are gay, although for none of them did we know – or care – that they were gay when the rank was awarded. We have had gay parents. I can also tell you that sex isn’t really discussed in scouts – it is not part of the program – although clearly we are dealing with boys going through that stage of discovery. We would not permit a gay scout or leader to do advocacy to the troop because sex ed is not part of the scouting curriculum. I can also tell you that my troop has always been very, very careful about any potential leader. I do not know of any significant incident between an adult and a scout, but I do know of a couple of adults who we made sure did not become a problem.

    More important is the actions of any organization to cover up incidents and potential incidents. We have seen this with schools, churches, and yes, scouts. BSA’s relatively new policy changes are considered among the best among youth organizations in training adults and in reporting abuse. I am proud of the Scout Oath and Law, and consider them exemplary statements for youth to follow in becoming a good citizen.

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  13. Captiva

    January 28th, 2013

    Chester the molester. Scout master -bater

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  14. Blacksmith8

    January 28th, 2013

    Ya know, officer I have no idea whatsoever where the creepy looking limp wristed MISSING scout leader went.

    My son and I were sleeping in our tent over there. That’s pretty much the same place we always pitch it. I did hear some grumbling but I thought it was a cow.

    I surely hope he didn’t wander off and get himself hurt.

    (*snort*)

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  15. Tracy

    January 28th, 2013

    The Boy Scouts has a longstanding national membership restrictions based on sexual orientation…WTF does ANYTHING with sex have to do with the scouts; since when?

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  16. Left Coast Dan

    January 28th, 2013

    A little follow-up:
    My pic is me wearing ‘war paint’ from a scout summer camp aquacade (I am the reigning belly flop champion). We recognized 6 new Eagle Scouts yesterday, and will likely have 4 in June. And although we have a lot of Eagles our troop is actually one of the most rigorous. All of yesterday’s Eagles are 12th-graders, and nobody gets it before 11th grade. Imagine the impact of having all those older boys around as role models for the new 11 year-olds – it really makes an impact.

    One of our Eagles from about 1993 just went to Afghanistan, now directing a UAV contingent instead of flying. He went to Naval Academy 20 years ago. His father was also a Navy man, and knew the head of the Academy. This man told him that of all the qualifying features of the kids who applied to the academy – varsity sports, academics, student government, etc., the one thing that was a clear indicator that a student would be successful at the academy was that he was an Eagle Scout. He didn’t know particularly why, but surmised that it was the fortitude to take on a multi-year project, knowing that there was a lot of work to be done over a long period of time, and completing it.

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  17. Left Coast Dan

    January 28th, 2013

    Oh, one other comment. I retook the BSA youth protection program online recently, you have to take it every 2 years. A large part of the video was of an adult who kept trying to walk off alone with a scout. BSA is very aware of that risk.

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  18. jclady

    January 28th, 2013

    @Left Coast Dan — kudos to your involvement.

    My trepidation lies with other scout troops that don’t have someone similarily in touch.

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  19. Frosteetoes

    January 28th, 2013

    Here ya go Left Coast Dan. For this very reason I didn’t allow my kid to join Boy Scouts.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/boy-scouts-child-abuse-files-contain-chilling-graphic-accounts-.html

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  20. Left Coast Dan

    January 28th, 2013

    I absolutely agree Frosteetoes. But it’s important to recognize that child abuse is rampant in all youth organizations (including schools), and it is only due to the close attention paid by parents and other adults that we are able to prevent it. Sadly, perverts will do everything they can to come into contact with kids. If you know the troop and do your research, then you can be confident in the safety of your child – and never otherwise.

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  21. Diann

    January 28th, 2013

    I would be okay with this only if the establish a “I Will Beat You To A Bloody Pulp if You So Much As Touch Me” Merit Badge.

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  22. Kairn

    January 28th, 2013

    Sorry Left Coast Dan, but I personally have a problem with the whole ‘I’m gay here, there, and everywhere and you all have to approve of me being as gay as I want to be here, there, and everywhere’ BS. This is how I see it:

    If you stand for nothing, you’ll accept anything.

    The citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah thought this was a great way to run their cities.

    They thought wrong.

    The Boy Scounts are on their way to standing for nothing and accepting anything. Beyond that, there will eventually be no more Boy Scouts.

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  23. DaveVA

    January 28th, 2013

    My Dad (Scoutmaster) would follow Dianns suggestion as well as I would. I have great memories from Scouting. If I had a little boy (have a girl) I would not allow him to join BSA at this point.

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  24. Blacksmith8

    January 28th, 2013

    Diann,

    Does the “I Will Beat You To A Bloody Pulp if You So Much As Touch Me” Merit Badge go above or below the “I tied a boat anchor to the ankles of the pervert AFTER I clubbed it in the head with an oar” Award for community service?

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  25. Abigail

    January 28th, 2013

    Left Coast Dan — My late husband rec’d his Eagle/Order of the Arrow from the Chief Sealth org back in the 60′s. His father was a long-time Scout leader and was awarded the Silver Beaver. David always wore his Eagle ring.

    Where does homosexuality fit in with being “morally straight?” I’m not trying to be flip, but when one pledges on their honor their duty to God, is the BSofA taking upon themselves their own interpretation of morality? It seems relativistic to me. And in at case, should anything the BSofA have to say about morality up for debate?

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  26. Jethro

    January 28th, 2013

    Having been involved in Scouting as an impressionable youth, and then being an active adult as my son anvanced from Tiger to Eagle I say to the BSA – If you cave on this you will lose my support (both financial and volunteer time), along with just about every adult I associated with for the past 15 years. We all put our kids in Scouting, and trust the organization specifically because of their current stance on homos, and their current policies to try to prevent attacks on our youth.
    Write to the BSA today and tell them not to cave!

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  27. Lemmingsrnotusdamnit

    January 28th, 2013

    If the boys are allowed to conceal carry, I’m all for it.

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  28. Bad Brad

    January 28th, 2013

    Lt. Frank Drebin is a little offended.

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  29. Jethro

    January 28th, 2013

    @Frosteetoes
    That history is EXACTLY why they have the current policies and procedures in place. Those horrible things happened many years ago when their guard was down. The BSA rate of incidences was no greater than that of any other private organization, or public school system in the country at that time.
    The organization learned from those events and that is EXACTLY WHY they have the current policies and procedures in place. NOW the risk of incidences like that are WAY below the national averages of similar organizations which have OPEN policies toward homos.
    The dregs of society want to destroy EVERY facet of decent society that resists them.

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  30. Unruly Refugee

    January 28th, 2013

    They should forbid any members of any group that is based on sexual perversion or preference. Don’t let them infiltrate and pervert all of our established institutions.

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  31. Stevo

    January 28th, 2013

    Are you a liberal who wants to sue the Boy Scouts into non-existence because they restrict homosexuals from membership?

    OR

    Are you a liberal who wants to sue the Boy Scouts into non-existence because the homosexuals they allowed in molested the boys themselves?

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  32. jayne

    January 28th, 2013

    So from liberal California rejecting homosexual pairings being called the same thing as heterosexual pairings a few years ago to total acceptance and capitulation everywhere. How did this transformation happen so quietly?

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  33. Menderman

    January 29th, 2013

    I wonder what the sodomy badge will look like?

    The “fire” badge was a depiction of rubbing 2 sticks together with flames shooting out….

    I can’t finnish that thought…………………………………………………………………………………………………..

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  34. Menderman

    January 29th, 2013

     
  35. Kairn

    January 29th, 2013

    Geez, Menderman. That is too funny.

    And to think, Sodomites as obvious Sodomites want to be taken sooooo seriously in regards to every endeavor they deem to poke a stick at. But look at what they do to each other and how they do it!!! That is the part that Sodomites want the rest of us to approve of.

    It’s not that they want to be a Boy Scout or a Scout Leader so much as it appears that they want more to have their Sodomite lifestyle (which really shouldn’t be anyone’s business) publically approved of and celebrated as some grand aspect of human nature that makes them so special that being a Gay Boy Scout or Gay Scout Leader is soooo much better than being just a plain ol’ Boy Scout or plain ol’ Scout Leader.

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  36. Serious Putty

    January 29th, 2013

    I was in the Scouts from 5th grade till H.S.
    Never heard of a homo incident.

    Of course, that was MANY years ago…

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  37. grayscape

    January 29th, 2013

    I don’t get why homos want everybody to stay out of their business….yet shove their business in our face everyday.

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  38. Davide

    January 29th, 2013

    Chester (the molester) is drooling over the buffet,lol

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  39. Frosteetoes

    January 29th, 2013

    @Jethro If BSA has the lowest incidence sexual abuse compared to the national average means that there is still sexual abuse going on. Anywhere there are kids you will find a pedophile nearby. They are cunning & sneaky shits and play like they are one of the adults who want to protect the kids. They ‘groom’ the kid for awhile before they molest them. This world is twisted and innocence is lost. I trust very few with my kids.

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  40. JimBob

    January 29th, 2013

    The Gay scouts doesn’t sound right.
    A gay prison would be better.

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  41. Frosteetoes

    January 29th, 2013

    And damn the APA for taking homosexuality off the list of mental illnesses back in 1973. They destigmatized pedophilia too recently on the DSM. Next will be decriminalization of it.

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  42. Blacksmith8

    January 29th, 2013

    Y’all are makin a big effing deal out of nuthin’

    These ‘saddam-ites’ as you call ‘em are the victims here. They are suffering from a chemical imbalance. The cure is simple enough through a regimen of LEAD and /or positive kinetic energy. I understand the results are satisfying. Although I must admit I, personally, haven’t brought myself to reach out and touch any of them as of yet.

    I am sure, when the time is right, I will the call aid the suffering and ease their pain.

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  43. Blacksmith8

    January 29th, 2013

    Okay, okay, no more comments from me before dawn.

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  44. MNHawk

    January 29th, 2013

    The boy scouts are done, then. Any parent that would let their boy spend overnights with gay men would be no different than letting their 13-14YO girls spend overnight camping trips with grown men.

    Just asking for disaster.

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  45. grayjohn

    January 29th, 2013

    The second any REAL national scout leader considered this, the Scouts came to an end.
    The homocrats and demopervs have achieved their goal of killing decency. We are lost unless we rebel now.

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  46. thirdtwin

    January 29th, 2013

    I had a molester assistant scoutmaster back in the 70′s. He molested several of my friends, and they told me. He never bothered me because my dad was very active in the troop and the perv targeted to guys whose moms were divorced, and dad was not in the picture. Remember, this was the 70′ s, and there were many new divorcees. It was also a Unitarian church, FWIW.

    The perv also had a clique of older scouts who he would ply with porn on camping trips, and they would “play cards in the tent…while jerking each other off. These guys would bully and intimidate noobs, and some of us normal guys would have to band together to protect them. It was a fucking nightmare, and I quit when I was 14. Back then, people just walked away like that.

    I now have a son in Boy scouts, and I underwent Youth Protection Training so I could participate in camping activities. One of the tenets of that training is that no adult should ever be alone with one scout; There should always be at least one other adult or scout present. But what happens when a perv scout leader recruits some other adult pervs into leadership? Isn’t that what happened to the Catholic Church?

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  47. bitterclinger

    January 29th, 2013

    The Communist Goals for the USA back in ’63 had one of its aims to infiltrate every organization that embraced, G-d, goodness and self-reliance. The Girl Scouts turned to doody years ago. The Boy Scouts were the last bastion to be cowed into accepting teh gays.

    This is indeed a sad day.

    I’m glad I don’t have sons, so I won’t have to explain why I wouldn’t let them near this crew for any reason.

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