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http://ogdaa.blogspot.com/2013/01/to-serve.html

Don’t forget the dogs!

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OK, the Florida deputy overreacted, but lesson number one in a Florida CCW class is that the permit is for a concealed weapon. It must be and remain concealed; even the shape cannot be visible through clothing.
Holster-toting driver took a little too much for granted.

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Oh bullshit, Boobie. Nobody that’s a criminal would oblige a LEO as the driver did if there were any ill intentions.

The cop was, and is – an asshole.

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OK, the cop was a jerk. But the driver was still wrong.

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Most of the Gestapo came from the ranks of the ordinary police.

That being said, in my 60 years I’ve been confronted by 1 (one) asshole cop – all the rest were professional.

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@Jack Daniels – I second both of your comments. Those were the first two thoughts that went through my mind.

I know that the criminal element is infinately worse than they were 30, 40 years ago, but the burden is still on the cops to make the appropriate assessment of the threat they are facing and respond accordingly. Neither of those two assholes did that.

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There’s a whole series on open carry by these fellas.

Interesting to see the different reactions and outcomes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxMQz6enX5o
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Now we get into what the word ‘conceal’ means. However, I don’t find any wording on the NRA/Florida website stating whether there is open carry (as in holstered). Everything mentions only ‘concealed’. Also, not on this website but googling, it doesn’t sound like FL has a law stating that you must inform police that you have a weapon, only if asked.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/florida.aspx

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@ Boobie – My guess is the statue in Florida is defective that requires a concealed weapon be invisible especially with the state’s heat and humidity.

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No getting around the dick factor for police here,but the first thing you must do with police if carrying concealed is notify them.That being said the police seem to be moving more and more toward just being another gang.

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Video 1 The cop should be fired for incompetence, among other things.

He left the “criminal” with hands cuffed behind his back.. near the gun which he left on him.

Dumb as well as unstable

+7

Cop is a dick, especially the crack about shooting him in the back.

Just be careful as a CCW carrier, and make every effort to help the cop to stay cool.

A friend of mine was pulled over for a tail light broken, and the cop saw his ccw license and asked him if he was carrying. He did not have his gun at the time, and the cop (state trooper) encouraged him to carry all the time.

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Is New Orlean a “private property”?

In the third video, the cop says, ‘yes, Lousianna is an open-carry-state, but New Orleans is a private property, and I’m the only one who can carry a gun ’round here.’

Did I miss something?

I is lost.
WTF?

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You have to ask yourself, “Do I feel lucky today?”

On one hand you leave your CW at home and risk finding yourself in a situation where you are threatened by a criminal.

On the other hand you carry your CW and risk finding yourself in a situation where you are threatened by a cop.

What is one to do? Weigh your chances. Do you want to deal with the un-uniformed gang, or do I want to deal with the uniformed gang.

Either way you could end up dead. That’s the problem you have whenever you venture into gang territory.

Who promised you that life was going to be fair?

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@Dagney – the reference to New Orleans and private property meant that New Orleans’ local laws superseded the state open carry law, and that private property owners can declare their property to be gun free – which means the only person allowed to carry a gun onto that property is a cop.

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I hope the asshole control freaks lose their jobs. They are not qualified to serve the public and are a danger to society.
That one is a candidate for the nut house with his desire to empty his Glock into a lawful permit holder.

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Thanks, Stirrin’, for a perfectly clear explanation.

I guess those private property owners must post a ‘gun free zone’ sign or something, in order to warn the CCW folks, err, not to come on their premise with their awesome firepower.

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@ Sarge-

Here’s the Florida law: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.053.html

It looks like there is a small window, but I wouldn’t want to challenge it.

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cop: I’m the only big swinging dick ‘around here, mmmkay?

citizen: yes sir.

cop: what did you say? did you call me an ass-hole?

c: no sir.

cop: on the ground, NOW !!, hands on your back!!

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But the assumption in an open carry state is OPEN CARRY. If you go to a store it has to be stated they do not want you to enter with a gun.
The cop was wrong.

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@ Unruly et al. — Jerk number two DID lose his job since the video we saw was one of several similar incidents. However, after mediation, he was allowed to be rehired IF he could pass the physical. Nothing said about the mental.

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I tend to agree with Boobie. The guy should not have exited the vehicle unless asked by the officer and he should have notified the officer he was CCW and was armed. Having said that, the officer should have excercised a little discretion with the permit holder and not acted like an ASSHOLE! Each state has different laws covering the subect. I am not clear about Fla but, here in Tenn the permit is a Hand Gun Permit, not Concealed. In other words, we can carry open or concealed. If you carry open, you may invite too much attention and that can lead to complications.

Yall’ be careful now, ya hear?

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Fur, the guy tried to make that point to the store manager and the cop, but to no avail. Your point is just too logical, which means it will never register with a politician.

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You asked in a previous post what pet peeve we may have concerning writing…

Well, I HATE when I don’t proof read my own comments for errors before posting!!!!!

+1

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!!!

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The cop is a Dumocrat!

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I used to know an Andy Cox who was a Lieutenant with the Florida Wildlife Commission (Grouper Troopers), working out of the Monroe County office (the Keys). I wonder if the Citrus County Andy “FASCIST ASSHOLE” Cox is the same guy.

The Andy Cox I knew was a good guy. I hope its not the FASCIST ASSHOLE we saw in the video.

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Connecticut is an “open carry state” but you are STRONGLY encouraged to make every effort to conceal as many of our different town police departments are apparently ignorant of state statutes.

+1

“The cops have not duty to protect you, nor to defend you.”

“what is says on the side of the police car is at odds with what says the Supreme Court.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECxDvwObwZk

– Keith Morgan

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Your weapon stays in the car so it could get stolen.

Your weapon stays in the car so when a madman goes in the store and starts shooting up the place with an illegal gun nobody with a legal gun can defend themselves.

Idiots!

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If I had a store I’d have a sign

“Responsible armed citizens welcomed here”

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In nearly every major city, nearly 100% of the new police recruits are college educated. The colleges are run by the progressives.

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This is what we have to look forward to. Cops built like brick shithouses on steroids, with no brains.
Politicians with brains but no common sence or balls. They have only disdain for the “ordinary” citizen. “Preserve and Protect” my fucking ass. The only thing these cops want to protect is their career paths, and their pensions. And when the tyrants in power say “jump” the police will say, how high”… Sir. Viva La Ammendomento secundo.

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Tony R. A poorly college educated cop is dangerous.
And I fear that too.

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Boobie, give it up the cop was an elitest asshole.

+1

Sorry. The cops were elitests assholes. All of them.

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SgtZim

“Cop is a dick, especially the crack about shooting him in the back.

Just be careful as a CCW carrier, and make every effort to help the cop to stay cool.”

Exactly. The way the conversation should have started is “Hi Oscilator, I’m carrying, I have a permit.”

The officer is a dick. CCW holders need to be sure not to let them be dicks. And there’s a lot of them out there. Also, who drives with your gun stashed there? That’s gotta hurt after a while.

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The Canton Ohio, Stark County Police dept is very poorly trained, seems to be a collection of thugs. Stark County is probably prime recruitment area for BATFE officers.

In 2008 the police were summoned to a domestic assault. The woman who was attacked ended up being arrested, then forcibly striped in a jail cell by both male and female officers. I’m sure it was an accident that the most damning video tape turned up missing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOq8m7qSTjU . Quite disgusting.

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Blink, Wow, quite the link. If I were a relative, hunting season would be open, and should be. Hope someone there grows some balls.

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“Semiautomatic Rifles Become More Common in L.E.”

http://www.officer.com/news/10854785/semiautomatic-rifles-become-more-common-in-le

Good for them, not for thee.

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Bad Brad, that video was of Hope Steffy. Due to the publicity of her incident another woman, Elizabeth, came forward with her story of being treated similarly in the same jail. I believe some others too.

Interestingly another video #4, about strip searches in Stark Co jail states it is cruel and unusual punishment for terrorists caught on the battle field to be stripped nude and it is forbidden in the field manual. Guess its ok in Stark Co, Ohio for attractive women after they are judged to be suicidal.

Point is be careful if legally carrying a fire arm. Many police, sheriff departments are staffed by rogue bullies. Maybe the good officers cant filter out the bad ones.

btw – There was an incident ( not in Ohio) resulting in the death of a neighbor by an off duty State Trooper in his own car. He was driving at an estimated 130mph+ on a 55mph highway. This trooper kept getting transferred to new barracks due to bullying. He liked to pick fights at the local bars when off duty. If he won the fight that was the end of it. If he got his ass kicked there was always a reason a week later to arrest the winner, during the arrest the prisoners always resisted arrest and were badly beaten until they submitted. Why do you suppose that happened?

This incident and his harassment of witnesses during the investigation was the last straw. No more a State Trooper. A few years later this man was an BATF officer at Waco. He’s still a member. I hold the BATF in low esteem because I know what this man was like and from various BATF misadventure killings I assume that agency attracts people like him who get off on the power of the uniform. In contrast afaik the local state troopers near me now are all good decent men.

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Gee, and I’ve been told that cops are trained to diffuse such situations, not escalate them.
I think this cop is guilty of Contempt of Citizen.

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Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods, the local LEOs have formed themselves a little bike gang, acted the part in a drunken brawl, and not only have no arrests been made, jobs been lost, etc, our local paper can’t get the police report without heavy redaction of names and damning details. Meanwhile they continue to run about busting mere “citizens” for the same thuggish behavior they themselves engaged in. You’d think the “good guys” on the force would be calling for their heads or their superiors would be firing them for sake of overall reputation, if not simple justice, but so far crickets and subterfuge.

http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&TypeID=1&ArticleID=115117&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086

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