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FAA grounds Boeing 787s to address risk of battery fires

WASHINGTON –  The federal government  grounded Boeing’s newest and most technologically advanced jetliner Wednesday,  declaring that U.S. airlines cannot fly the 787 again until the risk of battery  fires is addressed.

The Federal Aviation Administration’s emergency order affects only United  Airlines, the lone U.S. carrier to operate 787s. United said it would put  passengers on other aircraft and work closely with the FAA and Boeing to review  its fleet of six Dreamliners.

The FAA action came on the same day that Japan’s two biggest airlines — which fly almost half of the world’s 50 787s — voluntarily grounded them  pending full safety checks.

Boeing said it was working around the clock with investigators.

“We are confident the 787 is safe, and we stand behind its overall  integrity,” Jim McNerney, company chairman, president and CEO said late  Wednesday in a statement.

The FAA decision was another setback for a plane that was supposed to  establish a new standard for jet travel but has instead been beset by one mishap  after another.

The latest trouble arose when pilots for Japan’s All Nippon Airways smelled  something burning and received a cockpit warning of battery problems on a flight  from Yamaguchi Ube airport in western Japan to Tokyo. They made an emergency  landing Wednesday at Takamatsu airport in western Japan, and passengers  evacuated using inflatable slides.

An inspection found that a flammable liquid had leaked from the main  lithium-ion battery below and slightly behind the cockpit. Investigators found  burn marks around the damage. Japan’s Kyodo News agency quoted a transport  ministry investigator as saying that the liquid leaked through the electrical  room floor to the outside of the aircraft. The transport ministry said the leak  could have led to an accident.
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  1. old_oaks

    January 17th, 2013

    I dunno… Lipo batteries are pretty violent when they explode, the fumes are horrible. We’ve been using them in R/C planes for some time and when folks crash them, fires happen. People charge them in ammo cans or special bags and many dudes have caught their cars on fire using the power socket to run chargers.

    In my experience, they get too hot when they are drained, too sensitive to correct charging and discharging. They have no place being used in commercial aviation or ground transportation.

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  2. iphone

    January 17th, 2013

    When I charge my iPhone, it gets realhot. My guess is the charging amperage is too high. Boiling the liquid in the battery. Resulting in fire.

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  3. hanoverfist

    January 17th, 2013

    old_oaks is right.
    I use them in my R/C boat and motorcycle.

    And I charge them at just below max(and outside) just in case.

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  4. Boobie the Rocket Dog

    January 17th, 2013

    Is that the problem with the Chevy Volt, perhaps?

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  5. Bad Brad

    January 17th, 2013

    I think Rev. 2 will be 4 props and a shit load of pedals and some bicycle chain.

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  6. grayscape

    January 17th, 2013

    Lithium Iron Phosphate – not flammable – has been available since 2007….and yet for some reason LiPo’s are still being used.

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  7. F.D.R. in Hell

    January 17th, 2013

    Lucifer’s going for his Pilot’s License.
    I guess he’s bored sitting in a flaming Chevy Volt.
    :evil:

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  8. thirdtwin

    January 17th, 2013

    OK, I thought we figured out things like this after the Hindenburg.

    Hydrogen: ‘splodey
    Helium: not ‘splodey

    Do not use ‘splodey stuff around electricity if there are options.

    Especially near the center wing fuel tank, according to the NTSB.

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  9. grayscape

    January 17th, 2013

    The Volt uses Lithium Magnesium Oxide which can be explosively flammable under some conditions. Might as well keep a case of dynamite in the trunk.

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  10. Claudia

    January 17th, 2013

    Ok, what about this thought: the unions are sabotaging the 787s because Boeing dared to move the factory to South Carolina (right to work state).

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  11. J Frank Parnell

    January 17th, 2013

    Wouldn’t put it past the Goonions, Claudia.

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  12. CrustyB

    January 17th, 2013

     
  13. Moxie Man

    January 17th, 2013

    Were there any NBC “Journalists” on that Nippon Boeing 787?

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  14. Vladtheimp

    January 17th, 2013

    Were these built in union Washington state or non-union South Carolina?

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  15. Stranded in Sonoma

    January 17th, 2013

    My son had an MP3 player with a lithium-ion battery. One day, the case started to separate. When we took the case off, the battery looked like it had exploded but the surrounding case had contained it. Did the environmental thing; I put it in the trash.

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  16. Stranded in Sonoma

    January 17th, 2013

    @Vladtheimp — The SC plant is not operating, at least that I know of. So all aircraft are built in Seattle. When production moves to SC, those union idiots will scream about uncaring management and loss of jobs but Boeing will be able to point to jobs in SC. In other words, jobs won’t be “lost” they will just migrate.

    By the way, remember this Boeing product?

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  17. Rio

    January 17th, 2013

    The B-787 was behind delivery schedule before the first one was on the assembly line…
    And the hurrier they went the behinder they got.

    In attempt to salvage what’s left of Boeing & the 787′s reputation and future sales.. no expense will be spared finding an FAA approved fix for the overheating battery. Which should come within a week, even if it’s a temporary fix…

    i.e. A custom shroud with an auxiliary cooling fan. We’ll see.

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  18. Tim

    January 17th, 2013

    It’s that damned George W. Bush’s fault!

    Haven’t figured out how … but that don’t matter!

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  19. Boobie the Rocket Dog

    January 17th, 2013

    @ Stranded – Do indeed. Dad flew one over Germany.

    Collings’ B-17 will be here in two weeks.

    I got into it with somebody here a couple of years ago who knew Collings and did not like him at all. I don’t care; I very much appreciate their efforts without which I’d never have seen, let alone flown in, a B-17.

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  20. Serious Putty

    January 17th, 2013