Long story short – Some guy was stealing information off of MIT servers that were behind a pay wall. His intent was to share the information with everyone for free. The information was largely public domain, but the paywall was inserted because they compiled the stuff, used optical scanners, cataloged it, and put it into a searchable index. This has value. The guy was caught. He was looking at 35 years in prison.
The guy committed suicide, and of course the libertarians are now claiming it was anyone’s fault but his own. They are particularly pissed at the government for enforcing the law, and are attempting to martyr this guy who obviously had more problems than being a wrongfully accused “freedom fighter.”
I was reading about this story on the libertarian sub-Reddit. And libertarians are mad as hell and making their libertarian arguments as to why “THIS IS BULLSHIT!!”
The arguments are, for the most part, ridiculous.
I will pull a comment here and there, but trust me, these are not isolated one-off comments. This is the general consensus.
Apparently MIT didn’t want to pursue charges after the Feds were brought in. This seems to be a sticking point with many of the libertarians. This is a typical refrain-
the government should not be allowed to press charges, unless it is the victim (aka I stole a police car or some government property) . If the “Victims” do not want to pursue charges that should be the end of it. Period.
Really? So if a child rapist is caught but the little girl and/or her family decides not to press charges that should be the end of it? The victim isn’t only the girl, chucklehead, it is society. The state does not need the victim to press charges to prove the man is a rapist, just as they do not need a murder victim to press charges. (Yes, I know the victim is dead. That’s the point.)
A victim doesn’t hold the power to unleash a criminal onto society because of either, fear, coercion, monetary gain or whatever other reason they had to not pursue charges.
This “libertarian” system would also breed an environment where the richest among us could buy their way out of criminal charges if the price was right. “I realize I raped and killed your kid, but how does 2 million dollars sound?”
Here is another libertarian view that is absolutely infuriating.
F*ck any justice system that threatens someone with 35 years in jail for copying some motherf*cking bits around.
Notice this guy says “justice system.” What in God’s name is a justice system? That idiocy aside, other libertarians go on to one of their favorite topics, Intellectual Property.
Libertarians, like progressives, think that Intellectual Property “IS BULLSHIT!” But you’ll see that they have a difficult time respecting intellectual property because it’s “just all rearranged bits.”
Theft is depriving someone of their property. Your “property” as you put it is your thought. Short of an icepick and violent access to your frontal lobe, no one can deprive you of your thought. If you don’t want your idea utilized/replicated by other minds in ways you can’t control then by all means, refuse to ever disclose it.
Some dude tries to reason (heh, libertarian joke) with this guy.
Think of it this way: I have an idea for a song, I expend intellectual effort and physical effort in recording the song, that is the produce of two different types of my labor. I own that produce just as if I made a chair and you took that chair out of my house.
To hold that intellectual property is no property at all is to destroy the very foundation of property rights.
Get a load of the comeback.
Laws are state-sanctioned violence. Laws are enforced by the threat of many armed men coming to put you in a cage or worse. That only becomes ethical once someone ELSE has violated the Non-Aggression Principle, which isn’t done in any IP “law.”
If you can steal, non aggressively, you’re not a criminal, apparently. It goes on and on until one sensitive libertarian says
Wow. I’m actually tearing up about this. F*ck that so hard
absolutely not, the loss of a life is always sad, and even worse because of malicious prosecution
I understand the victim is not pursuing any charges, though. So it’s all good, Snowflake, you can stop your crying.