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Icelandic girl fights for right to her own name
By ANNA ANDERSEN | Associated Press

REYKJAVIK, Iceland (AP) — Call her the girl with no name.

A 15-year-old is suing the Icelandic state for the right to legally use the name given to her by her mother. The problem? Blaer, which means “light breeze” in Icelandic, is not on a list approved by the government.

Like a handful of other countries, including Germany and Denmark, Iceland has official rules about what a baby can be named. In a country comfortable with a firm state role, most people don’t question the Personal Names Register, a list of 1,712 male names and 1,853 female names that fit Icelandic grammar and pronunciation rules and that officials maintain will protect children from embarrassment. Parents can take from the list or apply to a special committee that has the power to say yea or nay.

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  1. Hugh Janus

    January 3rd, 2013

    A kid should have the right to whatever name they were given. It is up to the parents to be smart enough not to use a name that could be embarassing for their kid, not the govment

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  2. Menderman

    January 3rd, 2013

    Is Oprah on the list?

    How about Barrack?

    And what about Moon Unit?

    I like the idea of strange names, that way we get a good indication that they are stupid lefty progs.

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  3. Unruly Refugee

    January 3rd, 2013

    If they don’t allow muhammad, 0bama, Hussein, and the like, I’m on my way there.

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  4. Cynic-OlafSigurddsonssDottir

    January 4th, 2013

    Vhat? I kunst not call mein baby vhat I want? I vill haf to rename them all. Shaiquadottir, Naveahdottir, Juwahnssohn will all haf to learn neew names.

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  5. Lisl

    January 4th, 2013

    If anyone thinks this won’t come here at the rate personal liberties are being stripped and stolen, they are dreaming.

    What could be more personal than the names parents choose for their babies? They inform the child and the world what is important to the parents, where they come from (spiritually, geographically, etc.) and shapes the child’s form. To be denied the right to choose your own child’s name, or be demeaned by being required to select from a list, is the ultimate governmental assertion–at the beginning of life no less–of power over even the most basic of choices.

    Most Icelanders are probably proud of their heritage and the names that come with it, and I am not here to begrudge them this. However, any Icelander should be free to name their child(ren) as they see fit, not as the government deems “Icelandic” enough. I get the whole preservation argument, and examples such as how an Icelandic word for “computer” was chosen–the Icelanders (or a language association) didn’t want an Icelandic version of “das Computer,” that is to say an English word with an Icelandic article. More power to you, Icelandic new-word-finders. Go for it.

    But it should be up to the will of the people if they want preservation of heritage to include governmental approval of children’s names.

    Personally I think Icelandic surnames (sort of the same idea as the Russian patronymic) are dull and confining, though not for feminist reasons, which is why some object to the pattern of your father’s first name (with a possessor “s”) attached to either “dottir” or “son.” Bjork Gudmundsdottir, for example, would have gotten her last name from her father even without this system.

    I think they are dull because they are only as varied as first names are, and they are worn almost like a uniform–everyone (with some small exceptions I have seen) having the same attachment at the end of their last name (depending on if you are male or female, of course). Are they individuals or uniformed subjects of a government that makes every decision for them even down to their names? I do get that the last name system likely pre-dates even their very old government, but from what I recall adopting other surnames is no longer allowed without governmental permission.

    So again, I’m not into disparaging a culture, but really, at some point people need to decide if they are caged birds or not. This woman apparently has decided she will assert she is not, and while icelandic culture I leave for Icelanders, I also support her decision to claim her own name.

    Americans, be forewarned: Everyone else has already had their moment of, “That is so absurd it simply can NEVER happen”–and it happened. We seem to be more like the Iranians, in that the mullahs since they gained power are stripping Iran as much as they can of its Persianness, while Iceland goes in the opposite direction of absolute control under the banner of cultural preservation.

    Don’t misunderstand me, Iceland isn’t some Third World hellhole, and I do think it’s rather awesome that even a child could read their sagas in the same Icelandic they were first written in. (Consider trying to read _The Canterbury Tales_ in the original, do-able only if you read Middle English.) But we need to stop this idealisation of all things European and absurd copycatting of their numerous failed systems. We don’t need to dress, drive, act, drink, spend, and identify like them to be worthy of ourselves. We already have an identity, one that was asserted by the first Americans who made deliberate changes to set themselves apart, the clear statement being, “We are Americans, not Europeans, and we want it that way.”

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  6. Anonymous

    January 4th, 2013

    “If anyone thinks this won’t come here at the rate personal liberties are being stripped and stolen, they are dreaming.”- Lisl

    I hate to sound like a broken record, but this law already exist here in cubec.

    Parents that choose to give their child a name that is deemed offensive or bizarre by the state, it is rejected.

    We are one step away from all out communism here, that is to say, the government does not yet enforce its will upon its citizen with military or police force.

    Since cubec operates independently from the rest of the country in terms of its civil laws, it can and does pretty much what it wants.

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  7. Jack Daniels

    January 4th, 2013

    That was my post above..

    Once again I momentarily lost my avatar.

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  8. SgtZim

    January 4th, 2013

    We would never enjoy “A Boy Named Sue” if the progs controlled us!

    Hugh Janus said it best (hur hur).

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  9. Lisl

    January 4th, 2013

    Jack, you’ll have to fill me in on “cubec,” as I’m unfamiliar with it.

    Americans give offensive and bizarre names to their children all the time and they are deemed as such by large portions of society who really have very little say over it. In some exceptional situations maybe the state becomes involved, and maybe this is what you are talking about. However these usually are situations in which other citizens have expressed fear for the child’s safety, emotional or psychological security, etc. The names weren’t rejected because they weren’t on some list of approved American names. Even the child Adolph Hitler Something or Other wasn’t removed from his parents only because of the name. The parents were Nazi worshippers and there was prior abuse.

    I’d be on the same page as you when you say something about how we have lost a lot of rights, but when it comes to baby naming, we are not yet Iceland (or Sweden, etc.etc.). The laws they have do not exist here, even unofficially. (Anecdotal examples wouldnt support a claim tbat they do.)

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  10. Jack Daniels

    January 4th, 2013

    @Lisl,

    I refer to quebec as cubec (quebec+cuba)

    It is where I live under socialism and a socialist province. Here in quebec, the states determines your rights and freedoms according to their socialist mandate.

    For example, here the minister of education sees homeschooling as a form of child abuse and is systematically wiping out the right of the parent to have any say in the education of their children.

    You do not own your home or property, the state does and can do with it whatever they wish at any time with no recourse for the ‘owner’

    The long gun registry that took place under the liberals was overturned and dismantled by our current Prime Minister, a strong conservative, only to be null and void in cubec,,,meaning the registry still stands.

    The list goes on and on and on. The name issue was just an example of how we do not have any real rights here in cubec, as even recognized by the Fraser Institute (our equivalent to the Heritage Foundation) by citing in their 2010 report that cubec ranks bottom of the list on all counts of social and economic freedoms in NORTH AMERICA!!…and it is only getting worse

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  11. BILL

    January 4th, 2013

    your children are not your property anymore.

    remember “you didn’t build that” can easily be revised as “you didn’t concieve that”.

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