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New tax increases in California stir debate about adding to exodus

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A vote last month that makes Californians among the highest-taxed residents in the country is sparking debate about whether the Democrat-back initiative will backfire, by forcing high-earners to join a long exodus from the cash-strapped state.

Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown successfully pushed the tax increase by suggesting that high-earners must shoulder the largest burden in bailing out the state, particularly its debt-ridden public school system.

However, high unemployment and government debt have already sent residents fleeing in large numbers – an estimated 225,000 annually for the past 10 years.

And the recently passed tax increase for families making more than $250,000 each year could further shrink the tax base for California, whose 2012 budget deficit is projected to hit $28 billion.

Much of the debate has raged among California advocacy groups and in the editorial pages of the state’s biggest and most influential newspapers.

“More is never enough for these people,” Kris Vosburgh, executive director of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assoc., said about the Democrat-backed increase. “It’s hard to believe people will not leave.”

Vosburgh said his group is not an advocate for the wealthy and argued the tax increase atop other bad economic factors – including high gas and sales taxes – also have small and large businesses packing.

“With high taxes and heavy regulations, it’s just difficult to produce those widgets at a lower price than somebody in, say, Texas,” he told FoxNews.com on Tuesday.

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  1. Poonces

    December 23rd, 2012

    Lol.

    I like to be in California..
    O.K. by me in California…
    Everything free in California…
    For a small fee in Californiiiiiiiaaaaa….

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  2. RWF

    December 23rd, 2012

    Yep. And guess where they are all going. To Conservative states!!! And they bring their poisoned minds and votes with them.

    They will never ever learn that you dont shit in your own mess kit.

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  3. Pickled Liver

    December 23rd, 2012

    Exactly RWF – They spread their socialist disease where ever they go then wonder why things are so fucked up !

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  4. Johnny Freedom

    December 23rd, 2012

    If you ain’t got the Do Re Mi boys….

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  5. Nutjob

    December 23rd, 2012

    I can’t wait to see Holywoods finest finally paying their fair share.
    I hope they tax them at 75%.

    You can pretty much bet, their accountants will have all of their check stubs sent to 1 of their other homes in another state, these clowns are as hypocritical as the democrats they support, elect and have fundraisers for.

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  6. Left Coast Dan

    December 23rd, 2012

    I’d say CA is at least 30% conservative. I think more people from that group are emigrating to other states than from the libs. Unfortunately for those of us who are staying, that just means doubling down on progressivism. Far worse than the tax increase we just voted in is that the CA legislature now has more than 2/3 Democrats in each chamber. That means that Republican legislators can’t stop anything. If you think CA is bad now, just wait two years.

    OWN THIS, DEMS!

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  7. Maudie N Mandeville

    December 23rd, 2012

    LC Dan: Colorado would beg to differ.

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  8. Kevin R.

    December 23rd, 2012

    Maybe if they built a gaurded wall of concrete and barbed wire around California that would solve their problems.

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  9. Left Coast Dan

    December 23rd, 2012

    @Maudie Yeah, Colorado is definitely taking a liberal hit from CA. Maybe I’ll have to look at Wyoming instead.

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  10. cfm990

    December 23rd, 2012

    I can hear Tom Joad now. What the phuk was I thinking?

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  11. hanoverfist

    December 23rd, 2012

    @RWF

    The Plague is on the move.

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  12. Cynic

    December 23rd, 2012

    I used to live in CA, and am so glad I moved. The whole state is seriously messed up and the voters keep electing politicians who make it worse. The only resolution will come when the state crashes. Of course, with 55 or so solid Democrat electoral votes the US treasury will bail them out. Bend over conservatives, you’re going to pay for CA wherever you live.

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  13. Death_By_Farts

    December 23rd, 2012

    California: EPIC FAIL

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  14. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    December 23rd, 2012

    C’mon – statistics show that only 254 businesses left California last year. (Of course, a couple of months ago an aide to Jerry Brown called this number a lie without bothering to refute any of the conclusions). Another approximately 1,200 businesses failed, our unemployment rate is well above the national rate, we have one-third of all welfare recipients in the United States living here, our budget deficit is over $600 billion (including unfunded pension obligations), and the lunatic Democrats are now in complete control of the state legislature.

    California is doing fine; if it were in trouble, would the President bother taking an expensive vacation in Hawaii?

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  15. serfer62

    December 23rd, 2012

    225,000 leaving annually…

    Look at the bright side, more then that are moving into CA…from across the border!

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  16. Chris

    December 23rd, 2012

    And adding to the reasons for leaving:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7YhWNqIU1g

    Go ahead beaurocraps, make my blood boil even more.

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  17. scr_north

    December 23rd, 2012

    @Chris, I suspect that there was more going on there that wasn’t documented and the bars on the windows kind of supports that. Having said that, the police spokesman is one of the more greasy government types I’ve seen for awhile. In any event, the municipal government has no right to put the screws to this guy like they did. Like most liberals their view is to try to make everyone employees of the state in one way or the other and failing that to get rid of them.

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  18. Trixie Bluebell

    December 23rd, 2012

    Actually, CA is surprisingly conservative — if you cut out LA, SF Bay Area & Sacramento. A part-time legislature would be great. Less time for those dimwits in Sacramento to come up with more laws and more regulations and more ways to spend tax money. Furthermore, political advertising on TV should be illegal!

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