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The Motive That Was Hinted At Last Week – Was Adam About to be Committed?

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The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims’ families worship.

“From what I’ve been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed,” Flashman told FoxNews.com. “Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

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There is responsible gun ownership, and then there is Nancy Lanza.

There is no way on earth that this kid should have had access to these guns in her house if he was as nuts as what is being reported.

She’s worried about protecting her homestead? The biggest danger, apparently, was right under her roof. If your kid is certifiable you don’t leave metal sporks laying around, let alone guns.

If this is true, this militia was not well-regulated.

» 22 Comments

  1. Stranded in Sonoma

    December 18th, 2012

    Ban mothers that don’t commit their children to a psychiatric facility.

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  2. old_oaks

    December 18th, 2012

    The mother is an ID10T if she left firearms available to her son she was planning on committing.

    I do not lock up all my guns, but I do watch my children carefully and if they even hinted at being as unstable as Adam, all guns would be in a safe.

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  3. Ricky

    December 18th, 2012

    Do pencils make mistakes?
    Do cars drive drunk?
    Is gun control a really bad idea?
    Is Nancy Lanza trying to cover her ass from lawsuits?…

    I see that Walmart and now Dick’s sporting goods have pulled the Bushmaster AR-15′s from the sales floor, since that was the weapon of choice in this latest shooting..
    i find it strange how Glock 19′s weren’t pulled from the shelf when Gabby Giffords got shot..
    or an increase of sales for the George Zimmerman Kel-Tec 9mm model PF-9.
    I wonder where you can buy a pair of Charcoal pants and matching smoking jacket from the David Koresh collection?
    Like Jeffery Dahmer said ” a sandwich is a sandwich, but a manwich is a meal. food for thought people..

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  4. MaryfromMarin

    December 18th, 2012

    If the guns had been properly secured, Adam should not have been able to easily access them. Knowing what she did about him, they should have been doubly secured.

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  5. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    December 18th, 2012

    Without wanting to appear callous, Nancy Lanza is, conveniently, dead – shot by her own son. Because most people are not insensitive jerks like me, the fact that Mrs. Lanza was exceptionally irresponsible will not only not be discussed, but swept under the rug.

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  6. BigFurHat

    December 18th, 2012

    I know we are a litigious society, but I didn’t think I’d have to cover my ass when I’m dead.
    I guess I can call Johnnie Cochran.

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  7. Mad Cow And 'er son

    December 18th, 2012

    The communitarians at Fox are the highest rated in the nation for the past decade. How did the last decade work out for you America?

    Populist drivel to remain number one will not change the culture for the better. Rachel Maddow transitioning before out eyes and the tingle running up Chrissy’s leg have more effect (for the worse) on our culture.

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  8. old_oaks

    December 18th, 2012

    My youngest was with me today when I bought the AR (oooh, I got some neat 25 round Ruger mags too!) and then she went to play with some friends.

    ***LIGHTBULB*** it went off in my head.

    Well she got home about 20 minutes ago. Both kids were just relieved of my lecture including the following points, which they’ve heard before.

    1. NOBODY, none of your friends, nobody at school or even the police need to know we have guns in the house. Do not brag about my guns, people will try to steal them.

    2. If you ever want to know about guns, come and see me.

    3. IF you ever see one of my guns and I am not around, DO NOT touch it under ANY circumstance.

    4. Do not look for my guns or my ammo, I will know what you were doing and will punish you accordingly.

    5. NEVER ever play with a gun at your friend’s house. If you see your friend with their parent’s gun, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY, come and get me.

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  9. LyleLovett666

    December 18th, 2012

    Been wondering when this was going to come up.Seems to me the blame for much of this is with the mother.If you’re trying to get someone committed you keep the weapons away from them.

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  10. Immortal Fish

    December 18th, 2012

    What do we know, factually, about the conditions that led up to Adam killing Nancy and taking her guns with him from her home? Was there a struggle? Were the guns locked up? Did he coerce the key or combo out of her before killing her? Is there any certainty about the events that transpired?

    Or is really just as simple as him having waltzed in there, followed the lit neon blinking arrow-shaped signs scattered throughout the home to where the guns were carelessly left on the kitchen table, and then turned them on his mother?

    Just because I haven’t read them yet doesn’t mean there are no reports on this stuff. Does anyone know? Because if not and we don’t know these things, then we are becoming part of the court of public opinion. We shouldn’t posthumously Richard Jewell her, unless we are certain.

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  11. Racist

    December 18th, 2012

    Fish makes a good point. But if she did allow her son to easily access the guns (or metal sporks for that matter), then if we had an honest media in this country it would be the opening for a serious discussion and a very important lesson to be learned the hard way!

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  12. F.D.R. in Hell

    December 18th, 2012

    Mario Lanza wants to know if his Christmas LPs have spiked in sales this season?

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  13. cfm990

    December 18th, 2012

    I see the filthy hands of modern psychology all over this.
    Give him an outlet for his aggression. Take him shooting.
    Show you trust him. Don’t hide, or lock up your weapons. Yada yada yada.

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  14. Houston

    December 18th, 2012

    First, I want everyone to know I am not trying to preach at anyone here. I do want to ask for help educating the ignorant who are listening to the MSM.

    I don’t want to defend the mom. She’s made her last mistake. Who I do want to defend are the autistic kids who are now going to be even more ostracized since the MSM is choosing to throw the shooter’s autism to the front of the discussion.

    The mom obviously knew she was losing control of her kid since she was looking at putting him in an institution. She made a horrible mistake by not securing her guns.

    One of my sons is autistic and we have been to the shooting range. I want him to know how to use weapons and to understand the responsibility. I also know part of autism is a tendency to have meltdown where the kids and adults get so overwhelmed they have what looks like a temper tantrum and lose control. During those meltdowns they are out of control and don’t use proper judgment.

    Guns HAVE to be locked away and it is imperative they cannot get to them.

    There is no excuse, NONE, for what the shooter did. I just want people to understand his actions are not typical autistic behavior. Otherwise idiot liberals will be calling for institutionalization for “Their own good.”

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  15. Millertime

    December 18th, 2012

    @Houston -the idiot liberals would never call for the institutionalization of autistic people. They believe having the worst of the untreated mentally ill suffer through a life on the street, dependent on drugs and readily able to trap themselves in prison.

    The “entertainment” industry have targeted the young and the weak of mind and will, forcing a distorted image into their lives and demanding we buy into the dysfunction; not just accept as normal but celebrate the filth as a superior choice.

    The God haters, the in your face queers and the communists have poisoned this well and are demanding the punishment be meted out to us.

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  16. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    December 18th, 2012

    @Immortal Fish: We are properly chastised for jumping to conclusions about Mrs. Lanza. Perhaps she was forced into letting her son obtain the guns – after all, he was a 20 year old and could probably threaten his mother effectively.

    However, the issue does bear some investigation. Granted, the only two people who know for sure are dead, but there may be some circumstantial evidence which could shed light on this; for example, was there a secure gun safe, or was there evidence that gun locks had been taken off.

    I think that it is an important issue – particularly in the context of a discussion on gun control. My primary concern is that the gun control advocates will actively try to avoid this issue because it may not be helpful to their argument.

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  17. old_oaks

    December 18th, 2012

    after all, he was a 20 year old and could probably threaten his mother effectively.

    Wyatt, I have to laugh, have you seen this string bean? Cripes I look like friggin Lou Ferrigno next to him at 6′/175!

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  18. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    December 18th, 2012

    @Old Oaks: If I had to bet, I would put money on Adam Lanza having unfettered access to his mother’s guns. Most people I know don’t lock up their guns most of the time – particularly when their children are of adult age and familiar with them. I was just acknowledging a point made by Immortal Fish about jumping to conclusions.

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  19. old_oaks

    December 18th, 2012

    I’m pretty sure all he had to do was open a closet door.

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  20. Immortal Fish

    December 18th, 2012

    Thanks, folks. Here is where my mindset is coming from…

    Instead of giving the left the red meat they so crave, lets instead pull back and employ the same tactic we *usually* engage and patiently wait until the facts come in. Lanza or Zimmerman, same calculus. It isn’t fuzzy math.

    Now, if there are any *facts* about what happened in the Lanza home, then I’m all ears. But until then, let’s not all go and weep with the liberals about how Nancy was of poor judgment of character at best and an irresponsible gun owner at worst. After all, the media will seize on the far end of that spectrum and propagate the “established fact” that all gun crimes could be averted if it weren’t for those nasty “irresponsible gun owners.”

    Lookit. We conservatives have an awful habit of willingly entering the circular firing squad. Just trying to do my part in helping us avoid that where possible. I kinda feel guilty that my silence from 2010 to 2012 led us to where we are now.

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  21. Name Redacted

    December 18th, 2012

    Maybe she kept her guns handy to protect herself from Adam.

    By all accounts he was scary smart. I’m going to guess she thought the guns were in a safe place and he outwitted her.

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  22. old_oaks

    December 18th, 2012

    I have children and I do not lockup all my guns.

    I do not make it easy for them to access any gun, with one exception, my Daisy 880 which is kept in full view against a book shelf in the family room.

    It is the canary in the mine, I also use it 4-5 times a year to kill rabbits. Neither kid will touch it, unless I let them. If this were to ever change, my policies will change.

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