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Executive order.

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Executive Orders are binding on the executive department only. Citizens are not required to obey anything but a constitutionally created law, and the associated regulations that congress allows.

Yes I know that the Japanese internment during WWII was an executive order from FDR. Yes I know that SCOTUS upheld the internment. We were at war and that was a necessary process for national security.

You cannot say the same about banning guns in light of the Heller and McDonald decisions.

Will 0bama do it anyway? Of course. But the only people that are required to obey it are his flunkies. Certainly not the many police and sheriff departments throughout the country. And SCOTUS ruled that the military cannot be used for purposes of posse comitatus.

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“Reform” when spewed from the mouth of a progressive means complete reversal, or something draconian.

The people should demand a dialogue.
I would like to see a negotiation, because despite all the talk about your God-given rights, the fact is man has stripped you of these rights.

I would like to see it legal to conceal carry any handgun on a national level. Once that is put in place you can have the discussion about the limitations of where and when you can brandish other weaponry.

They should be legal to keep in your home- as many, and as bad-ass as you want them to be.
The level of bad-ass can be discussed when carrying them around in public.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, how am I being a heretic when I’m currently, by law, unable to conceal carry?
How is God’s law helping me now?

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@Stranded – “….Yes I know that SCOTUS upheld the internment. We were at war and that was a necessary process for national security…..”

National security is a very subjective term. You can bet your last dollar that Obumphuk will use that reason to implement his e.o.

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My EO 9066 (2/19/42) was upheld by SCOTUS in 1944.
You should know that the US Census Bureau released confidential neighborhood info in order to locate and roundup Japanese-Americans.

If you don’t think state and Federal firearm lists will be used to locate guns to grab, you’re sadly mistaken.

You can Molon Labe until the cows come home… grayscape nailed it.

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The Sandy Hook killer would probably not have been stopped by gun control because the weapons were owned by his mother. The Columbine killers obtained their weapons illegally under existing gun laws. The Virginia Tech killer had been previously determined to have a mental condition, but was apparently able to pass the background checks because Virginia did not report this to the Federal data base – and the fact remains that Cho was legally ineligible to buy guns. The Bath School killings were done by explosives.

In all of these instances, the first question should be “did we already have controls in place?” And the answer is “yes, we did, but they didn’t work.” Short of an absolute ban on privately owned guns, which is probably what liberals really want, the fact remains that all of these killers obtained guns despite existing laws designed to keep them out of their hands.

With regard to Sandy Hook, if one of my children had anti-social or mental problems, I would not have allowed him to have access to any guns I may have owned. However, Mrs. Lanza was killed, so it is politically incorrect to point this out. The Columbine students amassed an arsenal illegally, including home made bombs, that they kept in their bedrooms, and their parents never bothered to notice. Cho, the Virginia Tech murderer, had well known history of mental problems, but apparently the powers that be chose to ignore this. The systems failed not because there were no systems, but because the people involved in those systems failed.

All the anti-gun proponents will succeed in doing is removing guns from law abiding citizens, who pose no threat in these types of actions in the first place.

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I mean really – if they try to take the firearms from even 10% of those who own them (cuz they are “assault weapons”) and 10% of them resist – heavily – the result would be 100,000+ casualties at a minimum.

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That would be on Obama.

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Every gun owner should be a member of the NRA. Yes, there are other gun rights organizations out there, but none have the resources of the NRA.
If we don’t stop this usurpation by legislative means it could get REAL UGLY.

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How else can the liar&thief take guns away fron the citizenry?

Hey, we elected him king, and he’s just going about his business.

What’s not to love?

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That was the plan from the beginning. Remember Drudge linking to stories of Federal Agencies buying MILLIONS of rounds of ammo?

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Ask yourselves…
Will the NRA Gun Lobby stop an Executive Order?
Did the NRA prevent the Insurance Gun Law hidden in Obamacare?
Did the NRA prevent the IRS Gun Law in Dodd-Frank?

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If you axe me, I think the whole idea stinks!!!!!

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So more laws are going to prevent law breakers from breaking the law? Okay, let us know how that works out.

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Stirrin the B.S.

The terms “National Security” and “HealthCare” cover everything. Everything. Think about it.

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I was in the gun store this afternoon… Place was PACKED! Just about everyone there was buying an AR15.

I put a deposit down on a Sig M400.

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Fur, maybe you need to move. It’s your state that’s keeping you from carrying – not the Feds.

Many states allow non-permitted open carry.

AZ, Alaska, Vermont to name 3.

I rank my home state around #43 for gun rights, I know hollywood has built up this great myth about “gun friendly” Texas but it is a myth. Even Kalifornia had non-permit open carry everywhere but that has tightened up some recently.

Texas has a ways to go to be as free as many other states already are.

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Buddy, you don’t even need a machine shop. Many one-time weapons can be made from the local home depot if you’re desperate enough.

.22LR doesn’t have THAT much kick and can be fired with pliers and a hammer if you have to. Maybe aim it with a short tube from a shelf in plumbing?

Trace that serial number and/or striations from the barrel!

The guns you have are not all you’re limited to.

Just saying…

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So the same people who tell us we cant get rid of 20 million plus ‘undocumented Americans’ or fence-jumpers, think we can get rid of 300 million firearms? Im sorry, my guns are hear legally.

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“Kill all NRA members,” [NRA members] are domestic terrorists,” “confiscate them.” Rationality be damned, we have been targeted by Collectivism for removal.

All the communists have to do is change the definition of a “prohibited person” to make hundreds of thousands either turn in their guns or become instant felons. Choose freedom and you get the label and become the target of federally-funded law officers. No more Constitution for you, surrender all you have and go to jail. Fight back and get shot dead by the very weapons they ban, including everyone in your family.

It’s gut check time. They WILL slaughter you for your guns.

One hundred million souls are screaming from the 20th century. Are you really ready for this?

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Buddy, you don’t need to machine the entire gun, just the part that all those unsightly numbers are stamped on.

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If I have a right to healthcare and the .gov will provide it for me if I can’t afford it……

…and if I have a right to a defense attorney and the .gov will provide me one if I can’t afford one…

…and since I have a Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms, will the .gov provide me a firearm and ammo if I can’t afford them?

Just sayin’

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@lulu5297, That’s nothing new. All 13 colonies had laws requiring gun ownership. You were required to have a gun and supply of powder and ammo.
There were fines for not being armed and ready.

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…REALLY UGLY.

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Well if that wormy little ass lover Carney says it,then it will be.

UP HIS!

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Thanks, I don’t think I’ll be participating.

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just keeps pushing and nudging

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“A strong body makes a strong mind. As to the species of exercise I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson

“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” –Thomas Jefferson

“Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people” (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

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“clinging to guns and religion”

This guys kicking our ass on both fronts.

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*cocks shotgun*

Come and get them…

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There are a good 30 Republican Gov’s in 30 states right now.

They WILL NOT ENFORCE MASS GUN CONTROL OR SEIZURE, including mobolizing the national guard.

Our county Sheriff has already made clear that he would not enforce it as well.

End result? Red states win, blue states…Well, sucks to be them.

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Of course Obama supports gun control and the more control the better he likes it. Tyrants don’t like to have an armed populace to contend with.

Every member of this board and every person on the political Right with an ounce of sense saw this coming. By 2016, we will be unarmed subjects of a single party, almighty god-state. The only question remaining is whether we’ll be more like modern-day Western Europe, where they now literally tell you how to go to the bathroom, or do we get a repeat of the Stalinist-era Soviet Union.

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The NRA will hold a press conference Friday. The group’s statement today said ““The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.”

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The 2nd Amendment was established to prevent this sort of shit to begin with.

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Hey folks,

I know how to exterminate evil !!

I know how to totally eradicate evil in the world. I know how to eradicate crime, eradicate poverty, eradicate illness and eradicate suffering!

Just give me the power of life and death over you and the rest of all human beings.

Just give me all of your guns, and then everything will be dandy!!

Then we might have to kill all the JOOOOOOOZZZ.

After, believe me, we will have peace, “heaven on earth.” We will have eradicated crime, evil acts, illnesses and poverty.

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I just visited my local gun shop. Never have I seen it so busy! Weeeeee!

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This is why they are trying to get us involved with UN gun control; no problem with posse comitatus with UN troops coming into your town to take your guns.
I say bright blue helmets make fine targets.

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Here’s Cali’s answer. They tried this once, it went down in flames in court. All the same, I’ll be buying heavy at the local discount blamo store on Saturday.

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Claudia, my local shop just expanded and the place was filled with people today. I waited an hour and half just to get my hands on a few rifles. One guy was in a near panic about getting one of 5 – err 4, now 3, oops another gone 2, wait only 1 left. I told him I needed to get moving too as I had to meet the kids after school. He finally stopped someone and asked nicely if they would pull the last one while he waited, they did.

He then let me go in front of him, because that’s how gun owners are. Unfortunately the paperwork process left me no time so I had to come back.

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Don’t do it, Brad.

Go to your local mosque instead, and get on your knees!

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Merry Christmas
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If I have a right to healthcare and the .gov will provide it for me if I can’t afford it……

…and if I have a right to a defense attorney and the .gov will provide me one if I can’t afford one…

…and since I have a Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms, will the .gov provide me a firearm and ammo if I can’t afford them?

@John Bernard Brooks, I like the way you think. Use the left’s own twisted logic on them.

While they dont’ provide barrels & bullets, the City of Kenasaw, GA passed a law requiring all adult citizens to own a firearm. They probably have one of the lowest crime rates anywhere.

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How’s a Mossberg guys & gals? I want a good defense firearm and a local shop selling guns say that is good. Don’t need to be a great aim because it’s blast is large. It has cartridge holder on it. For about $475.

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Here is a link to a free pdf about Bayouwulf’s post.
http://archive.org/details/25YearsMurder-freeIngunTownUsa
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If Obysmal wants it, he should come and take it.

And Canary, what a ProgTitioner!

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Mossberg makes nice stuff. Forgive me I’m shotgunned up because I hunt so haven’t priced one in years, but $500 seems to be a lot of coin for a pump shotgun. (says the man who just committed $1k because he fears his government)

I have many reasons why I would advise instead to buy a plain jane Remington 870, which last heard was still under $300.

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Thanks Old Oaks. Great advice and alot cheaper. New to this.

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If your going to buy an 870 try and find a older one. Last couple new one’s I’ve seen don’t cycle. I won one at a D.U. dinner a couple years back, it wouldn’t cycle either. Benelli Nova is a good pump.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-nova-pump.php
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Thanks Bad Brad. Options. Getting excited about purchasing one. Love you all of you here at IOTW.

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Submit to the religion of peace!

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FreedomCat:
That gun I won sticks in my mind. It had a synthetic black stock as does my Binelle super eagle. Tuesday Night, horizontal rain, in a rush to get to the duck blind camp for a nice Wednesday morning, just me and the dog. Guess which gun I grabbed out of the safe.

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We need to refocus on getting O’Bastard impeached. Has anyone paid attention to any domestic policies while everyone is freaked out by the Conn. Massacre?
I don’t mean to sound insensitive, by God it broke my heart with those kids, I can’t even watch it anymore. But the heat needs to be turned up on the Benghazi debacle and Fast and Furious. O’bysmal is still a criminal no matter what happens.

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@ FreedomCat The US military uses Mossberg 590′s, they appear to be highly regarded. Mossberg also makes a model 500 that costs a bit less. I have never had a bad report on the Rem 870- it has been the standard pump gun for decades. If you are concerned with potential quality issues on late- production guns, you might look for a ued one. you should be able to find one for well under $300.00.

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U.N.? lol that would be the best case scenario, to me, but most unlikely, I think, for too many reasons.

As far as “best case” goes…

A. Blue shows up well in my scopes.

B. Blue helmets mean I am not shooting one of ours so I’m likely to have more teammates on my side.

I like that much better.

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