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Catcher in the Rye dropped from US school curriculum
Schools in America are to drop classic books such as Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird and JD Salinger’s Catcher in the Rye from their curriculum in favour of ‘informational texts’.
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I say, Bravo!
At least when these kids emerge with diplomas (that they can’t read), they’ll know how to change an air filter. It’s better than letting some leftist indoctrinate them with their anger, bitterness and stupidity.





FreeMan & Sarah Intend to Defend
December 7th, 2012
Where will the CIA recruit from now?
eternal ¼ cracker p
December 7th, 2012
Hey, they are replacing it with something.
And the Pledge of Allegiance was replaced by….?
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
I never got much into “Catcher”. The three books about Franny, Zooey, and Seymour were the ones that intrigued me at an impressionable age. Left me with far too much angst, though.
illustr8r
December 7th, 2012
They dropped Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer long ago. The article says that the novels are being replaced with texts from the EPA and such groups.
It’s partially funded by Bill and Melinda Gates-who I guess are going to have the kiddos read, “How not to Contract Malaria” or “Ten Ineffective Ways to Build an Operating System for your PC.”
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@illustr8r–
They’re going for “pragmatic pablum”, eh?
Watch the number of creative writers drop like a rock. To be replaced by “creative” writers masquerading as journalists.
illustr8r
December 7th, 2012
@MaryfromMartin The book that stood out for me in high school was Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton. I remember it was totally depressing and utterly pointless. I tried watching the movie version-it was no better even with hunky Liam Neesom.
the aardvark
December 7th, 2012
Why don’t they just give them comic books dumbed down to the lowest common demoninator, geez. Now they’ll never know that the F word was in Catcher In The Rye. Give me classic literature any day of the wk. over a curricula whose only aim is to make me ready to work for the common good. I want to be like John the Savage in Brave New World and experience the grace and meaning of life found in literature rather than just be a replaceable cog in a soulless society who only aim is to produce workers for the common good. If that makes me old fashioned, so be it. I also want to be like the older guys at the end of Fahrenheit 451 a living book after the world has gone to Hell in a handbasket. Someone has to do it in order to stave off the loss of knowledge in a new dark age. TS Eliot, says it the best in Choruses from “The Rock”,Where is the life we have lost in living? Where is wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?…
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
“Merry Christmas Charlie Brown” has been dropped by a prominent church in Little Rock, ARkansas after an atheist group complained about students attending the performance.
This is not the same world I was born in.
Dadof3
December 7th, 2012
BFH
“It’s better than letting some leftist indoctrinate them with their anger, bitterness and stupidity.”
What makes you think the “informational texts” aren’t exactly that?
illustr8r
December 7th, 2012
@Unruly Yes, when they drop Charlie Brown and Snoopy the world has certainly gone all in ways wrong.
Tim
December 7th, 2012
They’ve still got Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and Mao’s “Little Red Book” and Muammar’s “Little Green Book” and BO’s “Lies of my Father’s” – so … everythings OK, right?
We don’t need no education!
Kairn
December 7th, 2012
Should I be embarrassed to admit I’ve never read this book?
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
Right now, the high school class I have a connection with is reading “The Island of Dr. Moreau”, “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” and “Heart of Darkness”.
I dunno–I think something uplifting would have been nice, to balance those out.
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
@illustr8r
I worry more for my grandchildren and what their world will be like when I’m gone. I hope they will not be so turned away from reading books that they won’t appreciate the treasured library that I will be leaving for them.
NeeNee
December 7th, 2012
My favorite book in high school was Gone With the Wind.
That being said, I will never forget my senior English lit teacher being horrified that none of us 22 seniors had ever read Jane Eyre or Ivanhoe. Wringing her hands and tucking in the strands of her French twist hairdo, she paced the classroom saying, “People . . people! I can’t let you go off to college without having read these classics. Certain books are referred to all the time, and you will be in the dark if you have not read them. This wasn’t in my lesson plans, but I will order in ten copies from Scholastic Book Services. You will take turns reading Jane & Ivan, swapping them out to a classmate when done.” Dear Mrs. Hollander! She’s still going at age 99 and was the best teacher I ever had.
Menderman
December 7th, 2012
I just looked it up on wiki…never read it, or even the Cliff Notes…probably got an F on that report…got a d- in high school english my senior year..I could not stand that ditz of a “teacher” Dot Baker.
I even got so low as to turn in my older brothers papers from the year before…he was in honors english and got all “A’s”…I turned in the same papers to the same teacher in regular english and never got above a C…I think the only reason she gave me a D- was so she would never see me again…
mossberg12gal
December 7th, 2012
here’s a bit of nostalgia…elderly fellow doing caricatures in Hotel Galvez, Galveston, Tx, told me of his being fired from the University of Texas Austin campus, in the ’60′s, for daring to teach “Catcher in the Rye” for college lit…his name was Claude Allen, and was a terrible lecherous old fellow, and probably young fellow too, but always enjoyable to have a drink with…RIP, Claude!
Menderman
December 7th, 2012
NeeNee…your a girl right?
Gone with the wind sucked!
Not a teenage guy story if you know what I mean.
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
I never even heard of the book until John Lennon was shot by one of the readers.
Menderman
December 7th, 2012
No Kairn, you shouldn’t be. When I was supposed to be reading crap like that, I was reading the newspaper hoping that the actor from California could beat the peanut farmer from Georgia…and my teacher told me I was wrong….
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Why would they drop To Kill a Mockingbird? That would seem to support their agenda.
Menderman
December 7th, 2012
BTW, just so y’all don’t think I was stupid back then, I read stuff like Robinson Corusoe on my own…Now that was some good reading!
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Menderman:
” I was reading the newspaper hoping that the actor from California could beat the peanut farmer from Georgia”
Did you hear the Obomantion’s real inauguration will be private. It’s never been done before. Who’s this asshole think he is. That sent me over the edge today.
Regarding your last post. What’s changed? LOL.
NeeNee
December 7th, 2012
Yes, Menderman, I’m of the female persuasion.
But I was a farm girl, too, loving adventure stories.
And I forgot about Robinson Crusoe–indeed, it rocked! I also liked Swiss Family Robinson, after seeing it on the Wonderful World of Disney. Our generation will make out much better than the younger hip-hop generation if TSHTF. What’s that old teeshirt saying, “Age and experience will always triumph over youth and treachery.”
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Brad–
HA! The real inauguration will be private because he’ll probably be sworn in ON THE QU’RAN! (As Ann Barnhardt predicted.) And they don’t want any tattle-tale squealers! Just folks who’ll realize how edgy and cool it all is.
Bets?
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
Crusoe is a masterpiece.
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
MaryfromMarin, Damn, I forgot about that. Son of a bitch. It just keeps getting better.
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
@Bad Brad and @MaryfromMarin
they have to conjure up the devil in this one too.
So, invitations only.
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@NeeNee–
Yeah, “The Swiss Family Robinson”! Did you ever read “Mysterious Island”? Sort of similar.
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Unruly–
Now YOU’RE getting edgy. And it suddenly ceased being totally funny.
Dadof3
December 7th, 2012
Don’y buy the sales pitch. They know what they’re doing.
http://zombietime.com/teaching_as_a_subversive_activity/
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
@MaryfromMarin
edgy?
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Unruly–
By suggesting that they would be conjuring up the devil. What could be “edgier” than that? (Your suggestion, I mean, not you.)
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
@MaryfromMarin
the caps threw me off. wasnt’ trying to piss in the punchbowl or whatever.
Evil is of the devil.
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Unruly–
No, you are probably at least partially right about that suggestion of yours. At least for some of the people who will be present.
Democrat Bible
December 7th, 2012
Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”
Unruly Refugee
December 7th, 2012
@MaryfromMarin
if you know of any of 0bama’s peeps who are not of the evil variety I could sure use that information, and maybe even put it to good use.
lamchops
December 7th, 2012
“Informational texts”, such as The Communist Manifesto.
Nutjob
December 7th, 2012
Catcher in the Rye from their curriculum in favour of ‘informational texts’
Like what “roger and me”, “homosexual in the Rye”, or “if lifes a bowl of cherries why do I like the same sex nuts?”
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Unruly–
You’d think they would want a sacrificial victim–er, representative–from the opposing side present. But maybe only those with the Mark of Obama (“don’t leave home without it!”) will be there.
Kairn
December 7th, 2012
Brad,
Where did you read about Obysmal being inaugurated in private? That is highly disturbing news? What excuse are they giving for this?
Like Mary suggested, is this when the Koran comes in to play? Or is little panty waist really scared about something bad happening that day, shades of Morsi?
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Kairn:
Politico, ala Drudge.
http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/press-fear-obama-private-swearing-in-84776.html?hp=t1_3
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One of these days, we are all gonna need to do something about this shit.
MaryfromMarin
December 7th, 2012
@Brad–
I forgot about the “second” swearing-in in 2009, because of the goof.
Maybe next year WON’T be the first time the Qu’ran is used.
sablegsd
December 7th, 2012
“Or is little panty waist really scared about something bad happening that day, shades of Morsi?”
Even a dog dreams.
Kairn
December 7th, 2012
Brad,
Look, if this little POS is going to do this in private, then he is scared poopless about the American people. People are organizing a huge protest on the Mall for that day. I bet that is what this is about. The little jerk is giving us a big hint that now is the time to do something about him, ala Morsi.
Would armed security people in DC really fire on and kill a very large group of patriotic American citizens? Some of them I’m sure because they are sickos. But all of them? Would soldiers shoot Americans?
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Mary, Good point. This is sickening. I hate muzzies, as you could have guest from my rant last night. 4 more years. Oh yippie.
serfer62
December 7th, 2012
Catcher in the rye SUCKED
Without TV we read. For me adventures, Indians, Foreign Legion, Mongols (that one paid off in Afghan in ’05), Marines, WWII The Korean war, Marines…then American History, the best reading ever
Literature is another way of saying BORING111
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Kairn,
“Would armed security people in DC really fire on and kill a very large group of patriotic American citizens”
Yes, The new Black Panthers, etc.
” Would soldiers shoot Americans?”
No, that and the second amendment is a MAJOR problem for this asshole.
Bad Brad
December 7th, 2012
Karin. Having said that, this asshole is on track foe achieving his goals with very little Resistance. Not good.
Kairn
December 7th, 2012
Their excuse for his is because inauguration day falls on a Sunday this coming January. Has there been any other inauguration days that fell on a Sunday? If so, how was it handled? Has it ever been done this way before?
MaryfromMarin
December 8th, 2012
@Kairn–
Yes, the Politico article mentioned Reagan’s 1985 inauguration:
“The last time a president was inaugurated on a Sunday was in 1985. Reagan’s White House allowed complete news coverage of the private ceremony, including three reporters, three still photographers, and one network television pool camera, according to a Los Angeles Times report from the time. ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN carried live broadcasts of the event.”
And when has it being a Sunday ever stopped BHO from doing what he jolly well wanted to? It’s not like it was HIS Lord’s Day. In the traditional meaning of that phrase.
Kairn
December 8th, 2012
Mary,
Thank you for that info. So there is no legitimate reason whatsoever for Obysmal to do his inauguration that way. Just more of the same subversive shiite. It just goes on and on.
Thre will come a breaking point though. I have no idea when and how. But it will happen. It will be ugly. I am praying with all my might the bad guys lose. Big time.
Name Redacted
December 8th, 2012
When I was in high school, my required reading included “Fahrenheit 451,” Orwell’s “1984,” and Ayn Rand’s “Anthem.” Guess who was president?
DavidD
December 8th, 2012
Jim Hoft has more on this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/it-begins-obamas-ministry-of-truth-replacing-great-literature-with-propaganda-in-the-classroom/ .
The informational texts are Leftist indoctrination.
Joe
December 8th, 2012
Speaking of reading, I loved Dickens in high school and still do. Man, he could spin a story!
Dadof3
December 8th, 2012
Seemed obvious that the info texts were going to be about indictrination. What else have they done? Nothing but this for years. Now it’s just rawly blatant.
Take charge of your children and grandshildren, people. Find out if your school is doing this and shut it down.
Too many frikken sheep taking us all down.
Callmelennie
December 8th, 2012
Is there a more ridiculous fraud in all of literature than the Catcher in the Rye. It’s nothing but the pathetic sniveling of a spoiled resentful upper class adolescent which has been transformed by other whiney adolescents masquerading a English teachers into some statement of ultimate truth
Then they seize on the fact that this sniveling hack never put out another piece of writing as even more evidence of the greatness of his one ZZZ-rated, snore-inducing snivelfest.
Hey, JD Salinger and enablers .. I feel bad about the fact that your high school years were a living hell because people like me used you as physical and emotional punching bags because we loathed and despised the physical and emotional weakness that you manifested. GET OVER IT!
Name Redacted
December 8th, 2012
If they want informative texts, they should have the kids read Obama’s health care plan.
Elaine
December 8th, 2012
I was fortunate to grow up with a huge library right at the end of my street. My sister and I spent hours there and brought home tons of great books.
I believe the meaning of the word “education” ought to include developing a good character, appreciation of liberty and how easily it can be lost, developing moral and ethical standards, and reading of all of the great classics which teach about God, pain, virtue, strength in adversity, truth, the reality of evil, courage, honesty and tools on how to make good decisions. Socrates and Plato, the Bible, St. Augustine, St. Thomas, The Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, The Fall of the Roman Empire, Anne Frank’s biography, etc. These are the kinds of literature that enhance and develop the mind.
Xavier
December 8th, 2012
^Those type of books lead to independent critical thinking so the school curriculum isn’t going to be using them anymore.
But Twilight and Dreams From My Father are approved!
MaryfromMarin
December 8th, 2012
Amen, @Elaine!
Xavier
December 8th, 2012
“The government has nothing much against literature, per se. Rather, this initiative is driven in large part by the desire to promote political propaganda in the classroom.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/12/obamacore-the-substitution-of-propaganda-for-great-literatiure-in-our-schools.php
MaryfromMarin
December 8th, 2012
And this from Zombie–”Teaching as a Subversive Activity” (Dadof3 posted this already; just thought it was worth posting twice):
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/04/12/teaching-as-a-subversive-activity-the-theory-of-political-indoctrination/?singlepage=true