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BC
November 22nd, 2012
She is right, but I think she is going about it all wrong.
By not paying her taxes, the left will paint her as Timothy McVeigh, or a religious, rattlesnake slinging, tambourine whacking nut that should be in jail.
I think she would be better served, taking the Ken Ham approach. Now there is a dude with some balls.
I am sure that Ann knows who he is, and my guess is she agrees – I will try to post a link without posting the vid.
…http://youtu.be/c1LPogInfT4
BC
November 22nd, 2012
…here is a better Ham vid for Ann
…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzcgGYTldDQ&feature=related
Blinddog
November 22nd, 2012
Patches? C’mon BFH, we need armbands!
Mr. Happy
November 22nd, 2012
I like this even better than the first interview.
Thank you both for doing this.
Tabby
November 22nd, 2012
Ann, you kick @ss!
I think you’re awesome but if you call yourself ugly again I may have to start believing those fools calling you crazy!
Barnhardt is a modern day folk hero & has more fans than she knows! Sending luv n’ prayers from Az to ya girlie, keep showing em what real rebellious girl power looks like!
Tabby
November 22nd, 2012
Ann if you see these posts, please let us know how you’ll react / proceed if this bill manages to pass.
(I’m only at pt 3 of this now so hope I’m not asking prematurely. If you already addressed that, forget I said anything!)
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bipartisan-house-bill-would-add-religious-exemption-obamacare-mandate
sTevo
November 22nd, 2012
This is why I like Herman Cain, even though he couldn’t win the primary.
9% is enough tax to collect and if the Gov cant function with that, then it should shrink.
It is out of control.
Anonymous
November 22nd, 2012
One suggestion to Ann
If you’re going to take the route of the martyr or Joan of Arc, don’t be spewing rage and contempt and hatred at 99.9% of the populace, even if it is deserved That robs any self sacrificing gesture on your part totally meaningless, as the vast majority will simply say you deserved it.
These courageous martyrs of the past that you idolize didn’t spew venom at the crowds cheering their fate. They went silently and courageously to their fate, with dignity and grace, and in the process they no doubt shamed some of those anonymous faces in the howling mob. If they had shrieked hatred and venom at the moment of their demise they would have let these same people off the hook.
You have courage, Ann, lots of courage .. but you are totally lacking in grace. You won’t be doing God’s work if you don’t combine courage with grace
old_oaks
November 22nd, 2012
Part II at about 5:15 Ann gets to the heart of the matter why I think she should settle and move forward.
Ann’s role shouldn’t be a martyr, it should be a teacher.
THAT is where kicking the hornet nest will make her effective! Not fighting over some petty issue that she’s just now stumbled on after years of paying into the problem.
Bottom line:
Will she be effective in getting people to raise their deductions and stop filing? NO.
Will she be effective at getting people to realize they can do without the job that nets the income that pays the government? Probably… Will she be effective at getting people to minimize personal belongings and wealth? Probably… Will she be effective at getting people to redirect their excess to charities thereby avoiding taxes? Probably… Will she be effective at getting people to barter within a counter-culture thereby avoiding the government? Probably… Will she represent a minority that combined has more power than her single soul? Probably.
I’ve been doing pretty much what Ann is trying to achieve for the past 5+ years. The difference in my prior life compared to today isn’t as far along as Ann is trying to take hers. But I have revolted and successfully removed 85% or more of my “capacity,” without going to jail.
Ann needs to work to convince others to do the same, they can do it if they put their mind to it… I know I’m a lot more happy today being closer to what I think is right rather than working non-stop for what I think is wrong.
Baby steps, Ann, baby steps. lol!
Dagny
November 22nd, 2012
Thank you BHF.
I’ve written she is one OF the most important people in America, not THE. But I have to admit thinking she might be THE most important person alive in the U.S.A. because she is going ALL-IN on Jesus-Christ. She is doing it. As such, she is becoming a saint. So you read me right.
And it does not smell like she is going to fold doesn’t it? She is not bluffing. This is a very inspiring ALL-IN bet she is making. And she is totally convinced she is making the right move.
Many leaders of brigades and battalions of CW2 will take her as their Saint Patron if she succeeds, if she does not fold.
Bravo Ann! Go Girl! Keep the Faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dagny
November 22nd, 2012
There is no way on earth Ann could pay her taxes. She has no capital left whatsoever. She’s waged it all on Christ.
If Ann succeeds, if she does not fold to satan, she will become a SAINT, and her influence will be very powerful.
Soldiers being healed in the battlefield, leaders being immune to corruption, etc…
Folks, the only question for us, regarding Ann, is : how can we help her becoming a saint? How can we help her winning her bet?
Imagine this: if she stays strong and wins, she won’t forget us on earth, and might work mysteriously to help us win the war against socialism and islam. And even help us save our souls.
Dagny
November 22nd, 2012
@Anonymous
Google ‘ferocious love’
Dan Austin
November 22nd, 2012
@BFH – Your heart is in the right place when you ask for a symbol.
There already IS a symbol:the American flag. Turn the flag upside down. People will ask, “Why did you turn the flag upside down?”. You can reply, “There are over 60 million reasons why. How much time to you have for me to explain the answer to your question?”
Prepare in advance. Have the answers ready. Be articulate and succinct.
Bastiat Fan
November 22nd, 2012
BigFurHat: I have a design for the 3 percenters concept, but I’ve lost your email. Send me a message and I’ll share what I’ve come up with if you’re interested.
FreeMan & Sarah Intend to Defend
November 22nd, 2012
She is taking the high ground with no backup. Hero’s blood is in her.
This peaceful revolution isn’t cutting it.
I do not know what the right move is. They are ready for this kind of thing. The IRS gets off on this stuff.
norman einstein
November 22nd, 2012
I dunno…this just depresses the hell out of me.
Ann’s objectives are noble, but I can’t agree with her methods.
What good is she going to be to anybody, including herself, if she rots in prison?
And I say this as somebody who has admired Ann for a very long time, back to when she posted as ‘I Am Dagny’.
If I had my “druthers”, some rich bastard like Limbaugh would just pay the feds her back taxes, fines and whatever, and clear her account.
Ann can do more…much more…by having a voice, and continuing to run her blog and post her videos.
I can sort of understand why she’s doing this, though.
As she said, her life has been turned upside down since she posted that “Koran-burning” video and she’s got to be under tremendous stress.
Love and prayers go out to you, Ann.
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November 22nd, 2012
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GruntOfMonteCristo
November 22nd, 2012
You’re right, Ann. I’m too stupid to understand τέλος, or martyrdom or getting to heaven or any of the other Catholic concepts you mentioned. But how do you know that again? Because, I don’t remember you ever going shooting with me.
GruntOfMonteCristo
November 23rd, 2012
For what it’s worth, Ann, many of us think you’re dead on about being morally bound to stop supporting this regime. Some of us are taking similarly drastic action. I’m one of them, despite your bizarre opinion about what’s important to me. WTF was that? But if you can’t defend your choice of action, after a year, without being this incoherent, maybe you should reconsider your pied piper role in this.
You claim that you’re forced to take the masculine role here, to lead the way, until the men get the message, but you failed to mention the obvious male example of your choice, Lt. Col. Lakin, whom you know. I had to think long and hard to convince myself you weren’t purposely leaving out examples like him to protect them from exposure, but it’s pretty clear now that you really think you’re just all that.
You claim your primary job is getting Ann to heaven, and I believe you. But when I asked you about 2 different options that would allow you to remove yourself from the moral dilemma you face, your response is “that won’t work,” meaning that it won’t help to free America. Excuse me, but I thought you were making a choice that, by definition, will not help free America while you rot in prison, helpless, and what does that have to do with your primary job again? I thought your job was getting Ann to heaven? Why don’t you respond to that instead of criticizing something already made moot by your choice?
And let me be clear, Ann, you have made it thoroughly apparent by your answers that you have not done due diligence in evaluating your alternatives, possibly because you’re so offended by how “chickenshit” they are that you didn’t feel like it. Maybe you’re too young to recognize one of Satan’s favorite distractions there, or maybe you’re right about those being just chickenshit options. If you knew half the warfare history you claim, even of our own revolution, you would be much more reticent, I think.
I know you don’t give a rat’s ass about my opinion, and more than likely you won’t even read this, but I think your choice is the real chickenshit choice. And more than that, I’m concerned that in a year you will be sitting in your cell watching a monitor with CNN coverage of things going on that you didn’t foresee because you allowed your whole vision to be filled up by the idiot chattering voices of your inbox, and only then see that the Enemy tricked you, through the outrage of your own disgust, into seeing absolutely no hope where it might actually lie, and see your salvation through a false choice. Because the voices you need to hear are the quiet ones you’re forced to seek out, not the ones who clamor for your attention. For the last year, I assumed you were doing that behind the scenes, and that you had good friends, all over, advising you. I see now that I was wrong about that. You really are virtually a one-woman operation, and you seem to be too inexperienced to know that that’s not the way God makes saints.
You’ve already stopped listening, I’m sure, so I’ll stop talking, but don’t think for a second I’m saying this because I don’t understand your brilliant concept of telos. You’ve spent hundreds of thousands of words over the last year making that motivation clear. I get it. You’re trying to get other souls, and yours, to the finish line. Good. But I hope you have put yourself in the proper state of grace, so that God’s will for you here is unclouded. Maybe you have. But one thing you seem far too willing to do is demand that your choice be the only answer for everyone else. I hoped that your answer about “callings” might show a little more insight about that. I was wrong again. You keep telling people about God’s Truth, Ann, and you’re right to do so. But I would be very cautious about telling other people to follow your lead when the Holy Spirit is a competent voice in their own hearts.
Katechon
November 23rd, 2012
@Grunt of Monte Cristo
To understand the POLITICAL implications of Ann’s experiment here, we need to think the end of the State and the end of history at one and the same time.
Walter Benjamin, in the “Theologico-Political Fragment,” suggested that “The order of the profane should be erected on the idea of happiness.”
http://platypus1917.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/benjamin_theologicopolitical.pdf
BFH astutely asked Ann about happiness.
Ann replied that her definition of happiness was probably different than BFH’s.
The definition of “happy life” remains one of the essential tasks of the coming thought (the tasks of those who will rebuild a new American Republic) — and this task should be achieved in such a way that this concept of happiness is not kept separate from God.
The “happy life” on which theologio-political philosophy should be founded cannot be either the simple fact of being alive that Caesar posits as a presupposition so as to turn it into its own subject (and taxing it, as in ObamaCare) or the extraneity of science and of modern politics.
This “happy life” should be a “sufficient life” that has reached the perfection of its own power and of its own communicability — a life over which Caesar no longer have ANY hold.
In this discussion with BFH, Ann talked about the de-realization of the REAL, suggesting for instance that 9/11 is now perceived as a movie rather than as a real event, with real-world implications. The experience of the common folks now does not have any objective content and cannot be formulated as a proposition referring to a state of things or to a historical situation. She is right about this. The real is virtualized, and the fake is perceived as REAL.
Ann wants to fight this. Therefore, her living experience should be constructed, — from a terrestrial, political perspective — as an experiment concerning the matter of thought, that is, the power of thought, an experiment de potentia intellectus, sive de libertate.
What is at stake in Ann’s experiment is not at all communication intended as “telos” and specific goal of human beings or as the condition of politics. What is really at stake is the only possible material experience of being alive, free from Caesar. That is why the first consequence deriving from Ann’s experiment is the subverting of the false alternative between ends and means that paralyzes any ethics and any politics.
Another consequence of Ann’s experiment is that, above and beyond the concepts of appropriation and expropriation, we need to think, rather, the possibility and the modalities of a free use. Thinking common and individual sovereignty with Christ –above and beyond Ceasar’s sovereignty.
We can not understand what Ann is doing within the Marxist dialectic of proper and improper, freedom and jail.
What do we have in common with her? What does she have in common with us? If we take this commonality as a point of junction between the proper and the improper, between freedom and jail, then we go above and beyond expropriation or appropriation, and we go straight to the essential political problem: “How does one use one’s freedom?” What is freedom?
Katechon
November 23rd, 2012
“Only the Messiah himself consummates all history, in the sense that he alone redeems, completes, creates its relation to the Messianic. For this reason nothing historical can relate itself on its own account to anything Messianic. Therefore the Kingdom of God is not the telos of the historical dynamic; it cannot be set as a goal. From the standpoint of history it is not the goal, but the end. Therefore the order of the profane cannot be built p on the idea of Divine Kingdom, and therefore theocracy has no political, but only a religious meaning. [...]
The order of the profane should he erected on the idea of happiness. The relation of this order to the Messianic is one of the essential teachings of the philosophy of history. It is the precondition of a mystical conception of history, containing a problem that can be represented figuratively. If one arrow points to the goal toward which the profane dynamic acts, and another marks the direction of Messianic intensity, then certainly the quest to free humanity for happiness runs counter to the Messianic direction; but just as a force can, through acting, increase another that is acting in the opposite direction, so the order of the profane assists, through being profane, the coming of the Messianic Kingdom. The profane, therefore, although not itself a category of this Kingdom, is a decisive category of its quietest approach. For in happiness all that is earthly seeks its downfall, and only in good fortune is its downfall destined to find it. Whereas, admittedly, the immediate Messianic intensity of the heart, of the inner man in isolation, passes through misfortune, as suffering. To the spiritual restitutio in integrum, which introduces immortality, corresponds a worldly restitution that leads to the eternity of downfall, and the rhythm of this eternally transient worldly existence, transient in its totality, in its spatial but also in its temporal totality, the rhythm of Messianic nature, is happiness. For nature is Messianic by reason of its eternal and total passing away.
To strive after such passing, even for those stages of man that are nature, is the task of world politics, whose method must be called nihilism.”
- Walter Benjamin, Theologico-Political Fragment
Bad Brad
November 23rd, 2012
Monkey Boy: You get that woman yet?
As far Ann’s plight, what’s the impact 2 years from now? Nada.
Katechon
November 23rd, 2012
“[...] the government cant make you do anything. There is always an alternative, and at a certain point, the alternative of non-compliance is not only available, it is REQUIRED.
Read the Declaration:
Katechon
November 23rd, 2012