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A Discussion With Ann Barnhardt About Her Tax Strike

Home - by - November 21, 2012 - 17:45 America/New_York - 63 Comments

I called Ann to discuss her tax strike, its reason, its ramifications and what the end game is.
Try and look past the audio quality. This was truly a spontaneous moment, and I never told Ann that I was in the Jacuzzi. (Talk about emasculation.)

I told Ann we would post this and we would read your comments and Ann would give her reaction to your thoughts during a follow-up interview sometime this evening.

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» 63 Comments

  1. Ann Barnhardt

    November 21st, 2012

    I hate her. She’s crazy.

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  2. Dadof3

    November 21st, 2012

    Like a fox.

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  3. Marmo

    November 21st, 2012

    Wow, the first comment is truly schizophrenic.

    Ann Barnhardt saying she hates Ann Barnhardt?

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  4. David Kramer

    November 21st, 2012

    Ann, if you weren’t so damn kickass, I would find you absolutely drop dead attractive. As it is, I think we should go kick some arse some time. As to the income tax and the whole fight the feds thing.

    Welcome to the war. I have outstanding federal liens on me for past tax disputes. I refuse to pay and they keep sending me bills that I refuse to pay. Been working now for about 4 years under the table. I work as an independent contractor as a superintendent building projects and doing things like commercial tenant improvements.

    Anywho, the way I look at it, the federal government allows the illegal aliens, the undocumented useful idiot Democrats, to get away with not funding the federal government, so I am just following their lead. I of course cannot become an employee, otherwise the feds just seize parts of my pay because when you fill out all the crud as an employee, they get you roped into their bureaucracy.

    The only way forward, IMO, is to make them irrelevant. We have to as a large and unified group tell them to piss off. About 1 million people actually signed the secession petitions. Just imagine how many people have not even heard about that? I would say at least 1 in 20 to 30 would sign such a petition if presented with it. Remember, in our founding only a very small percentage had the balls to stand up and be counted. I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you in the coming battle.

    In nomine patri et filli et spiritus sancti

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  6. IronyCurtain

    November 21st, 2012

    BFH, start stockpiling Jean Nate bathsalts.

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  7. Gryph

    November 21st, 2012

    I don’t know that I could do what Ann is doing. But God bless her for having the spine to not only speak out, but walk the walk as well. God bless you, Ann Barnhardt.

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  8. thirdtwin

    November 21st, 2012

    Until I hear otherwise, I credit Ann Barnhardt with popularizing the notion that it is unmanly to wear a sports shirt with another man’s name on it.

    Now if she could just popularize the notion that white kids wearing black socks with sneakers look like little old men.

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  9. Billy Fuster

    November 21st, 2012

    Time for all conservatives of this country to have a Spartacus moment.

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  10. Houston

    November 21st, 2012

    BFH. WTHeck man. You need a thicker NY accent my brother. Throw out some “Fuggidaboutits” and such. :)

    Hang in there Ann. You have people praying for you.

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  11. Houston

    November 21st, 2012

    FWIW, I think Ann is right about people not stepping up until people begin disappearing.

    Also, I finally heard your accent. My day is made. ;)

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  12. old_oaks

    November 21st, 2012

    Ann is going about this the wrong way. While I applaud her ideology and withdrawl from mainstream enterprise to meet her religious objective. I’m a little lost as to why she’s kicking the hornet nest to begin with.

    It seems better if she would settle her current issues and move on, I say this because she’s paid into the system thus far, just get out. There’s little point in dragging a stone down the path of salvation. Just settle and move on, teach others how to live similarly, you can still starve the government.

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  13. Cracker Baby

    November 21st, 2012

    It’s kind of like being the lone gun rights advocate… Everybody (thinking) agrees with you but nobody else has the balls to do anything and the BATF shows up and beats down your door and murders you and/or your children then the complicit news organizations depict you as a nut that needed killing, imprisonment… etc. etc. They are not idiots. They will get us one at a time and everybody else will sit on their sofa HOPING that they aren’t next. God bless you Ann.

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  14. Claudia

    November 21st, 2012

    I have thought about this for a long time, but I already am an employee (part time), so I’ve already filled out all that crud. I did increase my deductions, but it would have to be 1000 before I didn’t have to send in any money to the Federals. Well, maybe not that many.

    The only way I get that money back is to file my taxes since I don’t make enough for them to keep it. Still, I’m funding SS and Medicare.

    Oh, and Fur, my roommate wanted me to tell you to suck it. She wants to know why the single people always get the fuzzy end of the lollypop. “Oh, you’re married and have kids so you don’t have to work the holiday – we’ll make the single people do it”, etc. She’s tired of being a non-person.

    Don’t hit me, Fur. She said it – not me!!

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  15. jethro

    November 21st, 2012

    See that expression on my avatar? That’s because my testicles are slowly, excruciatingly decending.
    I know my time is coming, but I have no idea when. I will have to give up everything I worked for, everything I have saved for my and my familie’s future, and join. I just don’t know when my limit will be reached. I am preparing for every possible scenario I can imagine.
    I’m not an Ann Barnhardt or a Friedrich Bonhoeffer, but I know I am not a sheep.

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  16. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    I <3 her! She is CRAZY!

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  17. Ernst1776

    November 21st, 2012

    Whoever said it I agree…. Make the federal gov’t irrelevant. I will continue to build for a better tomorrow but will also walk away from all I’ve built if need be.

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  18. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    BFH, did you buy your recording equipment from Edgar Hoover or Mr. Pinko?

    HEY! I would never give up this ;-) Mr. Pinko


    Menderman, they don’t make adequate tub recording devices. -bfh

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  19. Houston

    November 21st, 2012

    @Jethro You need to buy gold, get it physically and then bury it in multiple locations so the IRS won’t seize it.

    I admit I don’t have the cajones to do what Ann is doing. If I were a real man I’d load my family up and flee to Mexico or Canada and disappear.

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  20. Houston

    November 21st, 2012

    @Menderman I forgive him for recording it on an 8 track he borrowed from his mom. :)

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  21. jethro

    November 21st, 2012

    @Houston:
    way ahead of you…

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  22. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    What we need for a tax strike to work is a nationally known leader to promote it. Washington risked his life and fortune for what was right…You listening Rush?

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  23. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    “She’s crazy.”

    That’s what a friend of mine said. He’s a professor. I’ve told him “Really? I come all of her writings on theology and politics cohere PERFECTLY with Reason then?”

    He replied: Keep me posted about what is happening to her.

    Yes, she is one the most important person alive in America now.

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  24. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Houston, I do to, but with bad hearing like mine it is like nails on a chalkboard…but I am on the second vid….that’s how important it is to me.

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  25. Mr. Happy

    November 21st, 2012

    Ann holds the mirror that we all desperately need to look into.
    Immortal Soul > Stuff

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  26. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    BFH,

    I would like you to ask Ann about “the *100 Heads* protection guarantee from the sniper and SPECOPS community in the United States”.

    “And the 100:1 isn’t a total. It is PER SNIPER. Bye-bye, Dearborn.”

    Does it stand if she’s imprisonned also? Or exclusively if she’s killed?

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  27. Houston

    November 21st, 2012

    @Jethro I figured you were.

    @Menderman Yeah, my hearing is terrible as well. Too many years of standing in front of a bass amp. :)

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  28. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Ann, I watched that vid you posted of the Nuns being led to the guillotine. One young lady walked up freely, and she was beheaed as well….and that was the end of the video…how do we stop the guillotine? It seemed she just died with the Nuns. As glorious as that is, what did that young lady change?

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  29. super toe

    November 21st, 2012

    I have listened and watched Ann ever since the great koran-burning video came out.
    I was born ball-less due to the fact that I am female, but I am learning to grow a pair and take a stand on issues that matter.
    While I haven’t taken the great steps that Ann has done, I have done small ones which include cancelling mindless cable networks, boycotting liberal business and spreading the word to family and friends about the state of our country and what is at stake.
    I was blessed to be born in a large Catholic family and we look after each other. We are all Conservatives to the core.
    I can say my weapon of choice is my Rosary and I keep Ann and all those who love this country in prayer and ask God for protection.
    God Bless you Ann !

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  30. BC

    November 21st, 2012

    Something tells me that she is a complete animal in the sack…

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  31. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    @BC Only Jesus can stand her!

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  32. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    What is a “Three Percenter”?

    During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

    Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.

    The Three Percent today are gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will no longer back up at the passage of the next gun control act. Three Percenters say quite explicitly that we will not obey any futher circumscription of our traditional liberties and will defend ourselves if attacked. We intend to maintain our God-given natural rights to liberty and property, and that means most especially the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders’ Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic.

    We are the people that the collectivists who now control the government should leave alone if they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption. We are the Three Percent. Attempt to further oppress us at your peril. To put it bluntly, leave us the hell alone. Or, if you feel froggy, go ahead AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.ca/

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  33. Aaron

    November 21st, 2012

    I heard Ms. Barnhardt saying without using the exact words that she feels defeated and is having thoughts of suicide. Giving away all of one’s possessions is a classic example of behavior seen in people having suicidal thoughts. What is crystal clear to me is that all of the people who care about what happens to her really should consider steering her to a very competent psychotherapist and not try to either support her in this or try to talk her out of it. While I think that she is battle-weary and needs rest, away from the stresses that have brought her to a state of being overwhelmed, I don’t think that going to jail is either what she has in mind for her future or is something she will benefit from in any way. Please be supportive of her without supporting a terribly self-destructive plan.

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  34. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    BC, she is a Virgin.

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  35. cato

    November 21st, 2012

    I thought, I had faith, intellect, principles, convictions and balls of steel.

    Listening to Ann, I am left wanting.

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  36. lemmingsrnotusdamnit

    November 21st, 2012

    To paraphrase from the movie “Gandhi” “Ann, I know that you are right, but I don’t know if this is right.”

    I don’t want you in jail. I don’t think it will accomplish anything. But then again, you seem to be doing this for yourself, and your own sense of salvation. I can’t argue with you and won’t.

    I’m not a religious person in any traditional sense, nor am I an atheist. I am an Idon’tknowist. So I can’t relate to your religious convictions guiding your principles on this. But I admire that you have them and are willing to put everything on the line for them.

    I don’t know what to say. I just hate the idea of you in jail. And it’s not because you look like my mom and sister. (Barnhard must be from the same family tree as Barnhardt)

    I support you. But I’m not really sure what that means right now.

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  37. Unruly Refugee

    November 21st, 2012

    We don’t tolerate that effeminate crap in my family.

    Individuals who stand up to the government will be dealt with and taken down by the government. It is going to take thousands or millions of men in a civil war. There doesn’t seem to be enough men who are willing to risk death in order to preserve freedom. But if you get a big enough group of people with the courage to fight, others will join.
    Men are wired to be dangerous; it is society that has ruined the last few generations.
    People are way too comfortable today to get up off their lazy asses and fight, physically fight for the freedom of their grandchildren. When that comfort has been taken away from them, then they will start thinking about the natural instinct of survival. They had better hang on tight to their guns or there will be no way to fight.

    Ann Barnhardt is a hero, a godly woman with the courage of a thousand men.

    Ann, I pray that you will win your legal battles, and that men will soon leave their comfort zone and take up the natural masculinity and protectiveness that the Good Lord gave them.

    I am not one of the neutered. I would like to be part of the army that it will take to get the government out of our business and back under the control of the People.

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  38. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    AAron (or Anne),

    You are way off base. You must be a newcomer to Ann Barnhardt…Ann is a Leader in every sense o the word.

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  39. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Thanks Big Fur Hat and Ann, I look forward to more.

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  40. BC

    November 21st, 2012

    @Dagny She don’t scare me — I would have her screaming “sweet Jesus.”

    Just kidding…

    I think she is awesome. A little crazy sometimes, but right about 90% of the time.

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  41. Bayouwulf

    November 21st, 2012

    I amm proud to say I met Ann several months ago in Knoxville, TN when she made a multi-state tour. What a treat that was! She even had her Pink AR with her.
    Ann has stepped up to the rampart and I am ashamed that I’m not there. Since she mentioned the Three Percenters, I would recomend that IOTW readers go online and learn about them. As a Three Percenter, my path will take me in a different direction. My only regret is the sad physical condition my body has fell into. Not good for frontline duty, but stand I must. I leave you all with this quote.

    “It is not ours to restore the Constitution. It is ours to show them the wrath of the American people without the protections the Constitution affords them. Let them restore the Constitution to find protection from us.”
    TL Davis

    Now go get ‘em!

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  42. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    One thing is crystal-clear: the second ANYTHING bad happens to Ann, CW2 begins.

    I genuinely think Ann is becoming a saint, and we are blessed to know of her.

    Thank you Ann. God bless you.

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  43. Carlos The Jackal

    November 21st, 2012

    You are one in ten million Ann. Do not dispair, not only is HE with you, a lot of us are too.

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  44. lemmingsrnotusdamnit

    November 21st, 2012

    I did want to thank Bigfurhat for doing this interview. I don’t think he was comfortable doing it for several reasons. However, he did respectfully challenge Ann. I think that needed to be done. It’s important. So kudos to him for doing it.

    I appreciate Ann for being gracious, honest, humble and not overbearing, when it would be easy to be that way under the circumstances.

    I do like it when people I admire are challenged. You learn a lot more about them.

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  45. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Should I use he moron.org site to start a petition about a tax strike? The White House “We the People” site as well? Heck, they started a “save the Twinkie” thing…why not a “save the Country” thing…and if it is on their site, they are more willing to listen aren’t they?

    Let me know, and I’ll link the 3 vids…only if you want me to….

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  46. Jerry Manderin

    November 21st, 2012

    Ann, you’d be so much more effective outside of prison.

    But I don’t question your motives.

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  47. Jerry Manderin

    November 21st, 2012

    Hey! Everybody else is going on strike!

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  48. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    Historically, when someone becoming-a-saint is imprisoned by a satanic regime, what used to happen?

    Christian battalions going to the rescue?

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  49. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Hey Mr. Pinko…and I thought you loaned him that thing yo used to scramble your voice for the Adrea Shea King Show! Nice machine thingy you posted!

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  50. J. Galt

    November 21st, 2012

    All roads will eventually reach the same destination, Grasshopper. Choose the road that best suits you, and know that you do not travel alone, Grasshopper.

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  51. Bayouwulf

    November 21st, 2012

    Good point Dagny. Mabey America need their own “Bastille Day”.

    Fix Bayonets!

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  52. Dagny

    November 21st, 2012

    “What is freedom? Freedom is to be alive in Christ Jesus. Freedom isn’t keeping your money or your house or your car or your shit. Freedom isn’t going hither and yon whenever you please. Freedom isn’t earthly liberty. Earthly liberty is a mere derivative of authentic freedom, which is Jesus Christ Himself. Reject Christ, and you’re already a slave, and thus earthly liberty will be impossible. That’s why this is happening. This nation has rejected Christ and thus the earthly liberty that WAS a derivative of a Christian culture is now rapidly evanescing. This nation has embraced evil, and with evil inevitably comes chains. Day by day, link by link, this nation is forging its own chains, and it is so far gone that even the Christians are happily embracing the chains, ridiculing and desperately trying to convince those few who refuse to be chained that the only way to be free is to bow down and put on the chains too. Well, to hell with that shit, I say.”

    – Ann Barnhardt

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  53. GruntOfMonteCristo

    November 21st, 2012

    Here’re some questions for round 2:
    1. You used to be all militia, all the time. On the verge of going underground, to kick some ass where the rubber was really hitting the double-track. The moment I first heard you present your tax-strike, one word stood out: “non-violent.” When did this happen, and why? Some people really want to know. All the balls in this fight are not on the non-violent-only options, and you know it, so why the silence? Isn’t this just a little bit presumptuous and insulting to those preparing for more than just going to prison?
    2. Your position on the hopelessness of the Republic is well-established, but you refuse to even entertain the question of kicking your tax habit by going elsewhere so you can fight from outside. Other people talk about this as a strategy, and it’s historically strong. Why the silence on that? Too ball-less an option to even address? Really?
    3. You admit that there may be no one behind you on the Higgins boat. May or may not be true, but when asked about impact, your response is always “If everybody did this…” Stop. Everybody else is not doing this. You just used the term 3% in the same breath. You know the math and you KNOW everybody is not doing this. Ever. If this is really not self-martyrdom, why not address the other options that you are rejecting?
    4. Despite the pointedness of these questions, I support what you’re doing, but only because I acknowledge that everyone is called to their own way of making a stand. You usually appeal to intellectual arguments that are universal and apply to everyone, but is that what this is, really? Or is there a personal revelations aspect to this? An inner calling for you? That would be important to specify, because it would help others who are trying to make sense of their own callings.

    In any case, God bless you on your way, Ann.

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  54. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    Big Fur Hat,

    you said “Menderman, they don’t make adequate tub recording devices. -bfh”

    yes they do:

    http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-shower-singing-recorder.–Part-1–w/

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  55. Menderman

    November 21st, 2012

    ^^^^That really shouldn’t be on this thread. Sorry Ann, I don’t want to take away from you great input, and I got distracted…..

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  56. Iwitness

    November 22nd, 2012

    May God be with you Ann.

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  57. Ken

    November 22nd, 2012

    She is out of the boat. For better or worse she is finding out what it feels like to walk on water with only God to carry you.

    My belief is that by abandoning herself to God, God will honor this. Maybe publicly, maybe very privately in a way only Ann will recognize, but when you walk with God you are not alone. It sometimes looks like it to an outsider, but you are not alone. God is with you whatever happens.

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  58. Frosteetoes

    November 22nd, 2012

    I admire Ann. I wish I could or most likely would follow in a similar fashion to protest my cause if it weren’t for the fact that I have young children who need me at their age. My incarceration would be useless and unmeaningful if my kids were traumatized. Perhaps I’ll be there after I raise them and then they can bail me out from jail. LOL

    God Bless you Ann.

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  59. Jerry Manderin

    November 22nd, 2012

    @Menderman. Your distraction was great. LOL!

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  60. Dadof3

    November 22nd, 2012

    One truth I found out on my own:

    Your signature at the bottom of your return makes it a contract. That is what gives them legal means to collect (your possessions). That was the only thing they had when they filed against me decades ago on my credit report. “BY CONTRACT” is all they said for the reason. My first response was: ‘What contract?’.

    No signature – no contract. Got the balls for that? Cuz that’s where you make your first step.
    Found out the hard way. But they don’t have a “not filing” squad. Just enforcers of the contract. Millions of people don’t file as it is and NONE of them are forced to file for the sake of filing. Just the ones they know have money from previous filings are harrassed. But that too will fade with time if you are staunch.

    So it really is as easy as just dropping out to start it off. Keeping it like that means subtle changes in how you operate “under the tax table”.

    If you do, you must stick to: “I am not giving you my SS for this form… It is only for use between me and the Gov.”

    At least the firearms form 4473 does not force you to put your SS on it – yet.

    Of course, being self-employed after you drop out makes it easier. If you keep your customers to less than $600 each per year then they don’t have to have your tax info for filing that they have you as an expense. Which is a report of income on you to the feds.

    My state gets all taxes I owe from collecting them on sales. That’s enough. With no state income tax here it makes things possible.

    Bonus I found is my doctor has lower prices for cash customers that skip the insurance monster. He says they make more from my cash payment than the higher prices insurances require for all the middlemen/ paperpushers to be paid.

    All my income is spread around my state and community through my purchases. I am not selfish trying not to be a slave to the foolish feds.

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  61. [...] Ann talked about her tax strike with BigFurHat. And today, she responded to a few comments of the [...]

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  62. Jewel Atkins

    November 23rd, 2012

    I support Ann. I can see many people doing a tax strike based not simply upon the fact that they will not be able to afford their tax bills coming.

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  63. I Luv Bacon

    November 26th, 2012

    Cash is king.

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