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“Mr. Happy, do you really think they will allow you to remain unmolested if you chose to stay?”

Don’t force the other guy’s hand until you are in a position to make it stick.
We are nowhere near that point, today.

In the meantime, why shouldn’t we put our energies to ousting Karl Rove and John Boehner?
Right now it’s do-able, but if we don’t even have the strength and resolve to clean our own house, how the hell are we going to keep any seceded states free?

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If you’re going to secede, you don’t ask permission–you F’ing DO IT. Let’s see if any state actually has the sack.

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This is a fine mess you’ve gotten us into! – Oliver Hardy.

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While I’d love to sign for Florida..I phyically can’t considering who our Governor is -Rick “Skeletor” Scott – He’s like Chris Chrisie’s love child’s after-birth from hell..

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If several states all get 25000 people signing petitions to secede, it will get results.

Which results, not quite sure. Either a change of tone, or laughter, or the hammer comes down.

Either way, it will send a message.

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Wraith –

the petitions are asking to secede “peacefully” – the alternative is as you say.

Gentlemen are polite, after all. This nation was polite at one time.

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the petition is at whitehouse.gov??

yeah, why not just call the 0bama gestapo (black pampers?)directly.

+2

When do we start singing “The Bonnie Blue Flag”?

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Uh huh. How many of these are signed by their governors? I’m guessing…. none?

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Oh gee, I see Ohio is not on the list. It does not surprise me.

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Can I just secede from King County? The rest of Wa State is pretty nice

+5

Who gets to keep our military?

+3

Nullify, don’t ratify an secede. It’s the reason we have a constitution.

+4

Does anybody but me realize that most if the troubles we have now can be traced directly to the last time folks tried this?

+1

Makes me think of Hank Reardens several speeches to government officials – all to the effect of / paraphrasing Ayn Rand- if you are going to steal from me, don’t ask politely for me to surrender my property to you so you can give it to those who did not earn it, just bring your guns and steal it…

Maybe petitioning for secession is spitting on a hot rock, but it really would not be hard for me to support the movement. In the meantime, I’ll fight to keep as much of my money from the fed as possible.

+2

Let the dead bury the dead.

+1

I have not hope for Illinois. Chicago controls Illinois

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I’ll sign ‘em all – SEVERAL times!!!

Hey – if it works for Chicago & Philthadelphia DEMOCRAPS!!!

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All the states that manged to stay red in the 2012 election results map should just secede and form a new, conservative union. Let the blues stand with the seditious fed and carry on as they see fit. They can follow detroit, chicago, et al down the toilet. This may be the east bloody way to solve the current problem. It makes a pretty nice divide geographically actually, other than what to do with the 3 left coast blue states that alone contributed over 1/4 of the electorals needed for the stalinists to win re-election.

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Be aware…

This is exactly what this Administration wants.
The people divided is not enough for control;
they want the Nation divided, literally.

This will not end well.
I know because Lucifer is laughing.

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Are you signing a petition or putting your name into a data base of thought criminals to be eliminated “later on”? I don’t trust online petitions. It’s the old Stranger with candy reflex I guess.

+1

Don’t these idjots know, starting a petition on White House.gov only puts a yellow star on their heads?

You petition your STATE dummies!

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Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and State Militias that support Secession?

Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?

Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.

Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.

The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.

During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.

NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.

You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.

Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.

Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.

+1

I love living in Indiana…Only one of two states this election that said “not this time” to Obama.

We delivered a conservative Gov (Mike Pence), a super majority of Republicans in the state senate and house, and still have one conservative Senator (Dan Coates).

This election, we, the people if Indiana did not follow the rest of the swing states…We saluted Obama and the democrat party with one giant middle finger.

+1

Texas rocks! Where do I sign up?

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