Home - by BigFurHat - November 10, 2012 - 14:30 America/New_York - 43 Comments
This is what this year’s election would have looked like with white men only voting -
Here is a map with all men voting -
Here’s a map excluding all votes under 24:
November 10th, 2012
And if white men over 24 were only allowed to vote once, the whole country would be red.
Shouldn’t this be the kinda shit that the Republican Party should be analyzing? We lost! Wether it was stolen or if we had our heads up our asses or if we were bullshitted all along, we lost, period.
Now what? What can conservative constitutionalists do moving forwarard? They hoodwinked the tea party who were sooooooo quick to show how well they behaved themselves. Well, F that shit cause it doesn’t matter anymore. We ALL need to explore ways to disrupt very moment of each day for the next four years!!!! The question is HOW!!!!????
//every//. (not very)
“On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.” “
The Republicans should kick back and vote present…giving “O” enough rope to hang himself. This will cause the producers to go into hibernation for the next four years. Creating a minimal economy may show people how important “free capitalism” is.
How about EVERY conservative American drive to DC with their cars (with intension of being prepared to actually stay in the vehicle; sleep and or whatever) and grid lock the entire area. Thousands and thousands of vehicles jamming up the roads and city…..
I LOVE the vote “present” idea!!!!!!!!
In the 1860s a white Republican freed blacks from slavery. 140 years later blacks voted for a black Democrat to consign themselves and everone else into the slavery of Socialism.
All your maps are saying is ‘there are a whole bunch of wimpy multivotin’ over 24 DOOFUSES in the rest of your ‘so called’ country.
GOD BLESSED TEXAS!!!!!
For all the money spent by the RNC over the course of the last 8 years, they definitely do not have “Find World’s Best Marketing and PR Firms On The Planet” listed on anyone’s clipboard.
The GOP needs to be COMPLETELY re-branded, from the cellar to the attic. The obvious cliche’ is “This is not your father’s Oldsmobile.” Along with it, they need to gut the place to the studs, add a second story and, hey! let’s mix metaphors, drop in a new engine.
One of the best comments I heard post-election was “There’s no reason young people have to be Democrats.” The thing is, young people aren’t D’s because they actually believe any of that nonsense, they’re D’s because it’s hip, fresh, new and different. That’s what appeals to young voters. So unless we bump the voting age up to 37, one thing the parties can count on is a need to hep up the PR for the post-boom generation. That’s why, even with only 3% of the population, 40% of tee vee shows have a resident gay person/couple. You’d think they were 30% of the population if all you watched was tee vee, but they have them because it’s hip, fresh and new and kinda odd. Everyone waits for the meaningful looks and “the kiss.”
I absolutely know that with the right marketing that conservatives can keep their values and blow the competition away because, guess what?, being a D is getting “old”. We can make conservative values and ethics new again. It’s completely do-able.
Potato Patatoe the reality is more people that voted in this nation want to be on the cart and expect everyone else to pull it for them. Only the work horse sees that the road up ahead is impassable and pretty soon that horse is just going to stop pulling altogether.
In totalitarian, socialist states, the only ones who get ahead are criminals and/or government employees. The criminals engage in illegal, free-market capitalism and supply goods and services deemed illegal by the state. I haven’t decided what I’m going to sell just yet. Just food for thought.
FreeMan & Sarah Intend to Defend
Not me, I am over 24 and didn’t vote that way.
What would the map look like if those receiving checks from the government weren’t permitted to vote?
destabilize and weaken the populace and put us into a state of cowering fear…ripe for invasion.
Illinois has some big time financial problems. The 66% payroll tax hike that was supposed to pay down debt went to the broke as a joke pension plan. Only state with no conceal carry or open carry for gun owners. Chicago area just passed a tax, $25 on each gun sold.
The democrats now have a veto proof majority in the Illinois House and the Illinois Senate. The governor is also a democrat.
The Illinois democrats have been given carte blanche to govern how they choose.
The leftists here are pissed off and it’s because they just lost their scapegoat.
What Abigail said. This is my new mantra – Get them young. Make it cool. Propaganda.
I’m thinking unsourced street art. Like the gas station sticky notes, only taken to the next level. I’ve seen lefty propaganda posters in L.A. since the ’80s. Unlike posting on the Internet, which is answerable, street propaganda can’t be discredited other than by taking it down. Remember the buzz about the Obama “Socialist” poster that showed up a few years ago? I still see that image around.
Told ya The Founders had their shit together, right?
This country’s whole system is designed to be run by God fearing male landowners. That’s a fact. If you don’t like that fact, it doesn’t make it any less of a fact. Facts. They’re a bitch sometimes.
So why WOULDN’T a system like ours was designed originally be all fucked up now? How could it not be?
Sorry…still pretty bitter here. Don’t mean to offend.
But Abigail is right…some of us wishing we could go back isn’t enough…ain’t gonna happen. We need a new ground game that can defeat the team that we’re actually up against, not some imagined enemy.
At least I live in a red state again (Indiana).
Government job means Dem vote. How do you fight that with branding your party as “cool”? Gimme a break. Face reality abigail, there will NEVER be another republican president again. This is the other CLIFF America went over!!!!!! As I said before, this has gone WAY beyond politics of party!!!!!
I still maintain that the liberal plan is a seesaw or scales with leechers (read: D-votes) on one side and workers on the other, and is inherently unstable and unsustainable.
If just a small percentage of workers become leechers, overall entitlements have to be cut or taxes on workers have to be raised. Either way half the population is angry.
If leechers become workers they’ll oppose a system that is taking most of their hard earned money. Either way the government is forced to keep a thumb on the scales to maintain control of the population. Sooner or later people aren’t going to take it any more.
The scale analogy isn’t perfect because there are actually three factors: worker taxes, entitlement payouts, and the skim off the top to fund the government. It’s a given that the current government will never voluntarily reduce its size and will probably continue to expand for the foreseeable future. Entitlement groups and government payouts to cronyism are the vote buying norm and will increase just as a junkie needs more funds to sustain a habit. Can (and will?) workers produce every increasing taxes to support the other two groups? Of course not. Even if they wanted to, it’s not possible.
Course it took 80 years to see this in the USSR, and at least half the American public has proven they’re ignorant of history.
Do we have one for people who voted more than once?
California’s government is now one-party rule. Suddenly the Democrats are crapping themselves, realizing there is no scapegoat and they will get 100% credit for whatever level of shithole they turn this state into. They know that makes them vulnerable. It’s not over, and it’s never over, nothing is ever fixed forever, nor is it screwed up forever (though it may take centuries to change), and we have to fight tooth and nail even if we don’t live to see an improvement. Think for how many decades progressives have been working on this plan. They never gave up, not with 8 years of Reagan and the fall of Communism. Look where they are today, because they had a strategy and the simply stuck to it.
We need a Seldon plan. For those who weren’t sci-fi geeks as kids, Hari Seldon was a mathematics professor who foresaw the impending collapse of the Empire and devised a plan to reduce the coming Dark Ages from 10,000 – 30,000 years to a mere 1000.
Which really doesn’t seem altogether outlandish right now, does it?
The problem is too many white men stayed home….
Everything and everyone has a soft spot, a weakness to be exploited. The democrats included. But for some reason the GOP/conservatives never seem to consider seriously studying this democratic/marxist beast, what really makes it tick and most importantly, where exactly is its vulnerable soft spot.
And once realized, stab at it relentlessly until the beast is subdued. Afterall, how do you think this beast has roundly trounced us? They know exactly where our soft spot is.
It seems like it was the goodies that got them this time. We can actually come up with ways to give out popular goodies without taking from anyone. For example, no income earned for working more than 40 hours should be taxed. Normal working people will like that. Even union members. They won’t care if it screws the gov out of a few dollars. Any other creative appealing ideas?
We also need to make the history of the party’s accomplishments and blemishes more commonly known. The Democrat Party has gotten away with hiding from their own dark past for far too long. It’s like the Nazis figured out a way to make themselves look good.
And the Republicans have allowed the credit for their accomplishments to be usurped. For example, there are a lot of idiots out there who think Lincoln was a Democrat. And how many women know that it was the Republicans who pushed the 19th Amendment through?
And who pushed the 14th Amendment that the gays are turning to for gay marriage? Republicans. Democrats opposed it.
I visited the Susan B. Anthony House once and there isn’t a single mention or artifact displayed that would disclose her anti abortion stance.
This kind of brain washing needs to be challenged at every turn.
Accurate History education matters!
Name Redacted, Exactly, so lets give the communists their super majority nationally. Boehner should let them pass what ever they want, except gun control. Sit back, shut up, and watch the wheels come off with no one to blame but them. It’s the shortest route to getting a conservative agenda going again.
Here’s a funny one. But also serious. We should ALL learn Spanish. They will be comfortable talking with people who speak their language. That’s a great way to “reach out” as the shitheads say. The Democrats don’t have enough brain power to pull this off. But we do. I’d like to suggest the creation of a Spanish language conservative web site if we don’t have one. I don’t have what it takes to do it, but I would happily donate to the cause.
@Bad Brad and Name Redacted – I’ve been thinking about that idea too. If we know the problems will be getting worse before they get better, and we do, then doing things to make it worse faster will bring about the desired course change that much sooner. The less we drag it out, the less our finances bleed out.
We should should all pull whatever we have out of the financial markets too. No sense making the stock markets look good.
Mr. Gates. That’s the best I can come up with. I guess Rush is saying the same thing. Just look at the layoffs and closing 2 days after the election.
November 11th, 2012
A problem with giving them what they want is then getting to share the blame.
Not if Boehner held a press conference and basically laid it out and put all responsibility at their feet. I could be managed.
@pissedpatriot — I spent about an hour on the phone with my broker on Friday, about as staunch a conservative as you’ll find. It was the first time since the election that I actually felt hopeful. I’m meeting him for lunch next week to hear some more about the markets and put together a go-forward strategy. My first impulse was to pull everything out for good and all and put it into something bullet proof, but he had a lot to say on the subject and I trust him (knew him as an executive at a major bank years ago and he’s never steered me wrong).
Anyway, he is a wonk when it comes to the markets and the effects of historical events on them. Yeah, I put up some convincing arguments about the uniqueness of these particular times but he must be getting a lot of calls lately because he had some extremely good responses to stuff that I hadn’t thought of. Too long to go into detail here, but I bring this up because my conversation with him made me think of things a little differently. One thing’s for sure, nothing stays the same. Ever.
Now, you either get out in front of the crisis or you let it stampede you into something you don’t really want. Or you do nothing, which is actually doing something. I know that I’m not really ever going to take up arms against my progtard neighbors. I realize there are a lot of people who feel the need to arm themselves. We’ve got guns/ammo to fend off looters and violent people, but I’m never going to set off into my city looking for trouble. That’s just me. So I’m left with trying to figure out alternatives that may have a shot at working.
Education is one huge area in which I think conservatives have the upper hand despite what is happening in our schools today. I think also that because young people are naturally hopeful and truly want a shot at making it, that all they need is someone with a better story than the progressives. And it wouldn’t be a con, either, because we’ve got a helluva great story to tell. We’re just not packaging it right and we suck at targeting our audience.
One thing we conservatives have got to overcome, and it can be trained through widespread seminars if you will, and that is getting past our natural instinct to mind our own business. Well, we’ve got to make it our business and fast. Progs have shown us over and over again that they are fantastic at targeting their message and getting up in there. They’re damn good because if there’s one thing a Prog is, it’s their very nature of arrogance that allows them to think they know exactly how everyone else should think. And if someone doesn’t think like them, they know how to convince them — and it’s through the culture. Just exactly what Thomas Lifson was talking about. And conservatives can change the culture just as well as any progressive can if we have the right tools and a great message with great messengers. I think Andrew Breitbart would have had a huge impact going forward because he understood this and he lacked that natural conservative reticence that keeps dogging the rest of us. That’s what made him Breitbart.
You’ve somehow got the idea that I’m just gonna roll over and make noises like Boehner and the rest. No sir. No way. But I think we’ve got way bigger brains than our enemies and there’s nothing we can’t turn around if we get smart and organized.
AbigailAdams, I have nothing but respect for you, but your dead wrong about our young people and the educational system. That’s where our young people are being corrupted.
Jump to the thread with Anne Coulter.
@Bad Brad — Do you have any kids in high school right now? I have and she goes to one of the most liberal HS’s in Seattle. The school is known in the district as the party school, all the teachers are active in the union; a couple even work closely with that Bertha Lewis communist. I had to explain to the principal that communism was responsible for 100M+ deaths because he sided with one of my kid’s teachers over the comment “communism isn’t all that bad.” The list goes on, but my point is I know from first-hand experience what we’re up against. And yet…and yet even at this hell hole of openly communist activists there are important outposts of solitary defenders like my kid’s cheer coach and others who don’t toe the party line. And, more importantly, I hear A LOT of the conversations between the kids and they’re getting sick and tired of the obvious propaganda. They are laughing at these teachers behind their backs. These teachers are viewed as one-dimensional hacks and most of the kids know they’re using their classrooms as a bully pulpit for ringing the bell about so-called global warming, oppression of minorities and women, and the like. The kids are getting sick to death of everything being filtered through the lens of really outdated crap because they know better. They’re living it and know that the revised history doesn’t jibe with their own lives. Their teachers are trying to scare them to death and they’re getting fed up because it’s a real drag to be on the hook for every cockamamie story of woe that you’re not responsible for. The problem is no one is taking the time to tell them anything else in a way that let’s them feel okay about it. Instead, all they’ve got are idiots, in many cases, who were too stupid to do anything but rant about their pet causes and work it into every lesson plan for the next 30 years whether material conditions change or not. They’re static and pathetic.
The kids know this.
jus shoutin yo
“We ALL need to explore ways to disrupt very moment of each day for the next four years!”
we. are. the. pt. 01 percent!
“Education is one huge area in which I think conservatives have the upper hand despite what is happening in our schools today. I think also that because young people are naturally hopeful and truly want a shot at making it, that all they need is someone with a better story than the progressives. And it wouldn’t be a con, ”
Abigail, Brad, Xavier, that’s kinda what i was trying to get at 3-4 days ago…without giving away to much to dem lurkers- those 5-6 hours a day of indoctrination has gotta be wearing them down bigtime… give them a ‘fun’ way to reverse the damage. daily? weekly?
it’s problably way too much to, every day, overcome the damage but if they knew they had something to look forward to, to really engage and see some positive/informative results…
Levin is having his Ameritopia translated into spanish.. can’t we boil down the good stuff from: the 5000 year leap, the constitution, aesops fables, the Lincoln-Douglas debates, etc.–
…make them ALL, current. yet. cogent..
(happened by my favorite place, the library, yesterday and was reminded of Lincoln [ya think WE got problems] and that led to the debates)
handing out the pocket constitutition is great, for those highly interested who want to start being responsible, [[you remember that i wasn't til i got thru Luttrell's "Lone Survivor"]]
malkin’s peeps call them the Gimmedats – and however ya say it – that’s the whole frigging deal = WE GOT TO EDUCATE them enough to see that THAT is DEADASS WRONG and get them to see that personal reponsibility and choice is the GREATEST FREEDOM EVEH!!
coincidentally -RE: abdallah, ABD-means slave, as in, slave to allah: which means perfect adherence to the koran; freedom FROM THINKING AND FREEDOM FROM CHOICE **truly, what could be more UNAMERICAN** that’s the CRUX of the whole deal; exactly why the whole GIFT of the U.S.A and the Constitution are wholly and COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of islam and the koran
*** DIAMETRICLY OPPOSED ***
it is PURE taqiyya to say it nearly the same or compatible – that’s why spencer, geller, mccarthey, emerson, even pipes [who believes there can be a moderate islam] ALWAYS RIGHT!!!
can we win with goodies or the ULTIMATE GIFT that is the U.S.A.?? [short term, we may need to give the goodies to keep their attention to explain the GIFT]
FWIW. My 3 nieces are in high school and come home chock full o’ libtard ideas. Climate-change-anti-nuclear-redistribute-the-wealth BS. Their father and I have spent a lot of time calmly explaining the liberal agenda of controlling the education system and the kids now realize the have to play along with it to get good grades and not be punished for disagreeing. I know that’s almost compliance but all 3 want to go to med school – and who can afford that? So grades and scholarship qualification are extremely important.
The point is, if you take the time to talk to kids and let them speak to adults they trust – like my neighbors who work at the steel mill and nuclear plant and have them explain the misconceptions that are spread about those industries – they’ll be better prepared to fend off the indoctrination at school.
And – all these kids understand that after they’ve heard both side of the debate, their opinions will be respected. Sometimes things evolve – like when the teacher redistributed the eldest’s A+ to the rest of the class because she didn’t need it. That was a major learning experience right there and she shared her outrage on her Facebook page. Hee hee.
@Xavier — Exactly! Exactly! Exactly! If you are a conservative household, it’s just not enough to think your kids are getting the tenets of conservatism through osmosis. It’s not articulate enough for them to defend their ideas to other kids. They need the details and the underlying ideas in order to satisfy their own need to make a decision. Progs give tons of biased detail and then distill it down to a bumper sticker that’s easy to remember. You’ve hit the nail on the head, too, about object lessons.
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