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American Thinker

Conservatives need to take a collective breath and look closer at the numbers before they buy into the idea that GOP nominee Mitt Romney’s defeat was due to some kind of national demographic shift that now makes Democrat presidential candidates’ armor impenetrable.  Before you give in to the hysteria, here are a few things to keep in mind.

First, Barack Obama’s re-election showing was actually pretty unimpressive for a guy whose philosophies voters have supposedly adopted.  As of this writing on Wednesday, Obama’s vote total stood at an unimpressive 60,119,958.  That’s about what John Kerry got in 2004 (59,028,444).  President George W. Bush actually did far better than Obama in his 2004 reelection quest, posting a vote total that was about 2 million higher (62,040,610) than what Obama got on Tuesday.  That’s hardly a remarkable finish in a country with a population that has increased.  In fact, it’s a decline of 9 million votes from Obama’s 2008 total.



  1. Freeshiticus

    November 9th, 2012

    Evangelicals gave their full support to Romney, as did all of the South minus some of the “dark” areas. There is no doubt in my inebriated mind about Romney having enough votes to win.
    The GOP needs to get off their lazy asses and expose the voter fraud and demand a recount or suffer the consequences. This could be the last election in the USA.

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  2. Menderman

    November 9th, 2012

    First off, it takes weeks for all the votes to be tabulated, and Romney’s totals are likely to pass McCains. Second, the main reason that Obama won by about 3% was the MSM.

    Just look at the news stories the MSM ignored in the months and weeks leading up to 11-6. Now keep in mind that a decade old Bush DUI was headline news just prior to election day back then. Benghazi was hardly mentioned…except by Candy Crowley as she covered for Barry.

    The media swung the pendulumn by more than a point and a half.

    It is as if everybody with a blog is scared to attack the MSM…why is that?

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  3. Mr. Happy

    November 9th, 2012

    Can anyone here give any anecdotal instances where there knew of a large-scale (or not-so-large-scale)Republican movements to stay at home and sit this one out, as what DID happen to McCain in 2008?

    I know of none. If I am wrong, please feel free to enlighten me.
    About half the people I know are evangelical Christians and not a one (that they ever voiced)had a problem voting for Romney.

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  4. Bad Brad

    November 9th, 2012

    Chris Christie allowed the idiot to look presidential at a real bad time. That storm broke Mitts momentum. Probably not the only contributing factor. By the way I heard tonight on the radio during the drive home Christie called Obama and gave him a wet willy thru the phone, he e-mailed Mitt. What a friggen Rino.

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  5. Houston

    November 9th, 2012

    It isn’t that anyone is afraid to criticise the MSM, the problem is the only people who can make a difference right now are either ignoring us or are complicant.

    More and more is coming out and the truth is becoming apparent. It sounds like a terrible conspiracy theory but the more we hear the more apparent things are becoming.

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  6. Commissar M

    November 9th, 2012

    Mr Happy, this is strictly anecdotal and a very small sample but many generally right-leaning folks under 35 y/o I know are, and have been, damn fed up with the Republican party. I saw a lot more support for Ron Paul and later Gary Johnson this year than back in ’08.

    There seems to be a general feeling among this small sample that the Republicans have played “go along to get along” for decades while the Dems moved America farther down the road to serfdom. Think of how many Republican presidents ran to the right and governed to the left. The real argument is whether a vast, socialist bureaucracy is run by a nasty, America hating statist or a likable, America loving (?) statist. GW Bush comes to mind just as the most recent example. He seems like a decent individual but his record of governance is closer to Teddy Roosevelt or John Kennedy than Reagan.

    I’m reluctant to say that this sort of thing accounts for 2 to 2.5 million votes (I believe there was a huge amount of fraud) but it may count for something.

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  7. Mr. Happy

    November 9th, 2012

    Commissar M, I myself was one of those that thought that none of the potential nomineeswas exactly my cup of tea, but as time wore on, Romney looked better and better (much to his credit and my own desperation).

    I also am damn fed up with the Republican Party and I think our immediate course of action needs to be wresting control from the “pragmatists” that have a death grip on the party.

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  8. Commissar M

    November 9th, 2012

    Bad Brad’s comments about Chris Christie are a good example of what I mentioned earlier. Here’s a guy who just a year and half ago was considered a good possibility to run for president. Seriously, a lot of apparent Conservatives were actually sorry that wasn’t going to run! Holy frack, could you imagine the horrible mess that would’ve been?

    I think there is real disgust on the American political Right over how we are constantly abused by what is supposed to be “our party”. I can’t help but think that since we’ve only had one actual Conservative president in my lifetime, since the national Republican party goes out of its way to destroy any actual Conservatives that rise through the ranks, perhaps they are no more “our party” than the Dems.

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  9. Hippie Critic

    November 10th, 2012

    I’m going to fill out whatever paperwork I need to leave the Republican party. They don’t represent me.

    If I don’t have a country, what the hell do I need a party for?

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  10. Dismas In Wonderland

    November 10th, 2012

    Romney lost because he’s a progressive RINO, and he didn’t inspire the base to get out and vote for him.

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  11. Xavier

    November 10th, 2012

    The GOP (I’m not excluding Mitt – I just think the problem is more systemic than a single candidate) lost because it 1) failed to present a positive vision of the future, 2) failed to communicate to voters using media and messages they understand, and 3) the MSM (old and new) waged a very effective propaganda campaign of lies, disinformation, and coverage control.

    There are certainly many other factors but it’s my contention that these are the main issues.

    Blaming evangelicals (which other polls have already contradicted) or any other group is denial and smacks of the liberal tactic of breaking society down into it’s smallest components. Not only is it incorrect but it’s anti-Conservatism at it’s worst.

    What we’re seeing right now is not the careful reflection and analysis we need – the centrists and bigots are seizing the opportunity to promote their pet beliefs which they didn’t dare speak out loud a week ago, like those jumping on the Amnesty Bandwagon.

    Every segment of society will have a turn at being the scapegoat for the GOP loss. The pundits and the GOP refuse to look inward and instead hold our entire population accountable for the GOP’s own shortcomings.

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