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JARRING: The city Medical Examiner’s Office keeps brains locked away for scientific purposes.

It’s the great brain robbery.

The city Medical Examiner’s Office has kept the brains of more than 9,200 deceased New Yorkers — from the elderly to newborns — in the past eight years, records obtained by The Post show.

The stunning revelation comes as three families publicly question whether the city is yanking brains so rookie pathologists can “practice,” for scientists’ experiments, or for no good reason at all.

“Vasean’s organs were removed for ‘testing’ without any investigative or medical necessity,” charges a suit by the family of Vasean Alleyne, an 11-year-old Queens boy killed by a drunken driver. Months after his burial, his mom was shocked to read in the autopsy report that her son’s brain and spinal cord had been taken.

Brooklyn mom Cindy Bradshaw was stunned to learn she had buried her stillborn son, Gianni, without his brain. The ME kept it — though an autopsy found his death was caused by an abnormality in her umbilical cord and placenta.

“Do they really want to know what happened to the person, or are they just experimenting?” Bradshaw asked.

“The death had nothing to do with the brain,” said her lawyer, Daniel Flanzig. “It’s unconscionable — and unlawful — for the Medical Examiner not to return it to the family for a complete burial.”

Others suspect organs are used as a training tool.

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  1. Anonymous

    October 30th, 2012

    Just dead people?

    Based on how he acts I’d bet that they have Bidens’ brain too.

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  2. harbqll

    October 30th, 2012

    Once again, the first people to raise hell about cadaver brains being used for training purposes are going to be the first people in line to file suit when something goes wrong during a medical procedure.

    You want well-trained doctors? THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE THEIR SKILLS. We have surgeons come down to the morgue all the time to practice some procedure or other on a fresh body – it’s how they avoid killing live patients.

    Well-trained doctors, or sacrosanct bodies. Pick one, because you can’t have both.

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  3. Lowell

    October 30th, 2012

    If you have to feed covert, captive zombies, some career paths beckon. The media latches on to this. Because it doesn’t make Obama look bad. So little these days does.

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  4. Unneutral

    October 30th, 2012

    Maybe they can be installed into liberals.

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  5. Mountain Dog

    October 30th, 2012

    Lawyer: “Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?”
    Witness: “No.”
    Lawyer: “Did you check for blood pressure?”
    Witness: “No.”
    Lawyer: “Did you check for breathing?”
    Witness: “No.”
    Lawyer: “So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?”
    Witness: “No.”
    Lawyer: “How can you be so sure, Doctor?”
    Witness: “Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.”
    Lawyer: “But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?”
    Witness: “Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.”

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  6. Mountain Dog

    October 30th, 2012

    ^^^^ Quote taken from actual official court records.

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  7. Edith McCrotch

    October 30th, 2012

    I thought all organs except the skin were removed before burial….I dunno, maybe an expert can tell us ’cause I ain’t googling that.

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  8. Wyatt, Insensitive Progressive Jerk

    October 30th, 2012

    Wasn’t there a Hollywood type worried about zombies a day or so ago? Maybe these are just to assuage the zombies.

    Could be worse – they could have been hoarding 32 oz. soft drinks.

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  9. eternal cracker p

    October 30th, 2012

    My gramma, still kicking it, coming up on 95, she is adamant what’s left of her go for medical purposes (training or otherwise), to the point of contributing money to the people who for damned sure better put her to good use. She was married to a doctor, one of her 3 or 4 husbands; I guess she wants to keep getting used.

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  10. reddecaesari

    October 30th, 2012

    confident somewhere in the paperwork they agreed to this.

    regardless…once you are dead, it is over.
    and if good use may come of analysis..so be it.

    hoping that heaven doesn’t require me to bring my body with me!

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  11. cfm990

    October 30th, 2012

    I’m pretty sure after I breathe my last, I’m not gonna care.

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  12. Doc

    October 30th, 2012

    “…..I don’t know, it said Abby, Abby sombody.”

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  13. Doc

    October 30th, 2012

    “Yes…Abby Normal!”

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  14. Doc

    October 30th, 2012

    Maybe this will clear things up.

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  15. Carlos The Jackal

    October 30th, 2012

    “The Man With 9200 Brains?”

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  16. Irish

    October 30th, 2012

    The liberal brains are the ones in the baby food jars

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  17. harbqll

    October 30th, 2012

    Edith – the organs are all removed during autopsy (if one is performed), but are generally replaced in the thoraco/abdominal cavity before the body is sent out to a funeral home. Except for specimens retained for testing, training, etc.

    On bodies where autopsy is not performed, they may be sent to the funeral home untouched, but more commonly are subject to minor procedures for training purposes first – generally small things causing no disfigurement, that can be easily covered up by morticians preparing the body for viewing at the wake/funeral/whatever.

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  18. CrustyB

    October 30th, 2012

    “(T)he brains of more than 9,200 deceased New Yorkers”

    Wow. That comes out to over 200 brains.

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  19. even steven

    October 30th, 2012

    Maybe the guy is a collector. And people give me hell for collecting antique electric fans…

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  20. Moe tom

    October 30th, 2012

    Dr. Harbqll has a grasp on this issue. I agree. What do we want, well-trained doctors or sacrosanct bodies? Or rich lawyers, and dying newspapers grasping for a scandal?

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  21. Moe tom

    October 30th, 2012

    CrustyB. I keel you.

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  22. Stranded in Sonoma

    October 30th, 2012

    Ivan Betinov, is that you?

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  23. Genl Ripper

    October 30th, 2012

    “brains…Brains…..BRAINS!! (num num num num)” – Zombie Greezy Joe Biden at dinner last night

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  24. Moe tom

    October 30th, 2012

    Speaking of brains, when I was a smart alec youngster in school in Ireland, my English teacher,Mr. Jim Bailey, once told me that fish was brain food and that I should have my Mother cook me a whale. I reminded him that a whale was a mammal.
    Oh my God, hell to pay, why can’t I keep my mouth shut? I loved Mr. Bailey. He always talked about the French Riviera, the Costa Brava, Monico, New York, the U.S of A. “Anywhere, but here.”
    I guess he had an influence on me. VOTE on 11/6/12

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  25. Moe tom

    October 31st, 2012

    I switchin off. Watchin “One Flew over the Nest.” I just love Nurse Ratchett.

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  26. spymyeyes

    October 31st, 2012

    @mountain dog,

    You are a LIAR!

    My wife works or some scum-sucking laywers and I found on comedey centrals website a whole list of written jokes for every occasion and THE JOKE YOU CLAIM CAME FROM COURT RECORDS CAME FROM THEM INSTEAD!

    give credit where it is due shithead!

    When all the information come to the light of day about this sicko and what he did, I bet they will find that he was selling those organs on the black market because there is untold trillions to be made in that ever growing industry for someone in his position!

    If you pick up a true crime book you will see that morticians have been doing this since the 1970′s and getting caught at it regularly ever since so it’s no surprise to me that ME’s are getting caught as well.

    Bet he has a swiss numbered bank account or two to go along with a few in the Cayman Islands and Cuba.

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  27. Anonymous

    October 31st, 2012

    Is that Joe Biden’s? He obviously isn’t using it.

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  28. Moe tom

    October 31st, 2012

    Spymyeyes to mountain dog. You make joke. For that I Keel You.

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  29. Cuzin Brucie

    October 31st, 2012

    It occurs to me that if brains are sorted and
    stored by size, there could be some difficulty
    in finding Obama’s brain stored with the mice.

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  30. harbqll

    October 31st, 2012

    @spymyeyes –

    Unless you’ve found some miraculous way to not only keep a brain viable after death, but also to successfully transplant it into another body, then I very much doubt these brains were being sold on any black markets.

    You really need to watch less TV, my friend.

    As for that “lawyer joke” you claim was stolen from comedy central…we used to tell that joke to each other WAAAAY back when I was a pre-med undergrad. Comedy Central didn’t exist at the time, nor did the internet (at least not as we know it today). The story may be true, or it may be apocryphal, but it was DEFINATELY not “stolen” from Comedy Central.

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  31. karen stevens

    October 31st, 2012

    yet another instance where libstain media refuses to give the people the truth about axelrod’s twin brother

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  32. ShowmeSanity

    October 31st, 2012

    Spymyeyes, this is for you:

    http://www.ferndalecourt.com/lighter.htm

    Actual Questions and Answers Overheard in Court…

    Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
    A: No.
    Q: Did you check for blood pressure?
    A: No.
    Q: Did you check for breathing?
    A: No.
    Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
    A: No.
    Q: How can you be so sure, doctor?
    A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
    Q: But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?
    A: It is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.

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