I’m looking forward to a McGovern-style defeat of Obama in November
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antiteabagger
October 21st, 2012
It was America who lost when we were saddled with Nixon who didn’t play fair.
Ya, sure, moron.
Obama playing fair -
Accepting foreign money for his campaign. Boom. Right there that is more egregious than ANYTHING Nixon did.
Shall I go on?
Executive privilege to cover-up Fast and Furious.
Cover up of Libyan Massacre.
Sibelius breaks federal law and they insulate her and she still has her cabinet position
Obama leaks political advantageous National Security Secrets to the press while using the espionage act against reporters who dig a bit too deep into Obama failings.
Obama decrees that defense contractors not lay off workers prior to the election, in defiance of federal law, and then says he will cover the fines with tax payer money.
I’ll end there while you tell me what Nixon did that even comes close to any of this.
THE WORLD CANNOT WAIT for your answer, dickweed.
-bfh
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Jerry Manderin
October 21st, 2012
Arlen’s gone. George is now dead. Who’s gonna complete the liberal trifecta?
Stephen Ambrose had a great biography on the life of George McGovern as WWII war hero it’s a good read and will give you a new perspective on this liberal lion. As a conservative I must say I did enjoy reading that book. So long to another member of the greatest generation.
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Tony R
October 21st, 2012
For all his faults, as a young man he flew B-24s and bombed Nazis. For that and that alone he should be honored in death
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BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
No. I can give a shit what he did as a young man. He was a big government socialist. They should be voted out or dead. We got both now with McGovern.
I don’t play that weepy eulogy game.
I want leftist’s out of power or dead. Period.
I won’t kill them, but I’m not going to shout “hey, look out for that car.”
This is war. Remember that. It is. That’s not hyperbole.
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Chieftain
October 21st, 2012
Exactly right Tony. McGovern had the guts to fly against the Nazis under incredible conditions and against overwhelming odds. I disagree with his politics but I honor and salute his Service to our Nation.
God’s Speed George.
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vangrungy
October 21st, 2012
“It was America who lost when we were saddled with Nixon who didn’t play fair.”
go back to Reddit
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Liberal Larry
October 21st, 2012
bigfurhat has just demonstrated what a fascist he truly is. All these “support the troops”conservatives only support the ultra conservative reactionary soldiers, but piss on the rest. He wants those dead who would make him pay a little more taxes, while his publishing company peddles more hateful books.
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BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
This knee-jerk SALUTING THE EX-SOLDIER is total BULLSHIT and you guys have to stop that shit.
The guy flying in the plane is not a different guy than the “liberal standard bearer” McGovern. It’s the same guy.
It’s impossible to salute half a guy. It’s all or nothing, and I wouldn’t salute McGovern if he shot Hitler.
If one of the Seal Team 6 goes on to be an anti-American, socialist, commie sympathizing, wealth redistributing, big government politician one day – I’m not gonna salute him for killing bin-Laden.
I would want that guy to be as dead as bin-Laden.
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I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
I know more than a few guys who served but espouse the socialist-commie, America deserves it, attitude.
They. Make. Me. Sick.
He was a commie before commies were cool.
Probabley opened the bombays over the channel when nobody was looking.
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Roadmaster
October 21st, 2012
I will acknowledge McGoverns service, BUT as a whole he deserves as much honor as Ted Kennedy!
Just another loopy liberal, peddling his Marxist/socialist BS and propagating the EVIL SCOURGE on US that IS the DHIMMICRAT PARTY!!!
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I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
Hey Jerry,
I vote for Olympia Snowe.
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BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
Acknowledge? Yes. Those things happened.
Salute, or honor? Hell no.
He undid any good he possibly did during the war by crippling America from within with the same dumbass socialist, tyrannical big government policies he was “supposedly” fighting against.
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Tim
October 21st, 2012
A lot of Soviet Communists bombed the shit outta their fellow socialists, the Nazis, too. Do we ‘honor’ them when they croak?
I stand behind George McGovern 1000%!
(paraphrased from McGovern’s declaration of support for Tom Eagleton a week before throwing him under the bus)
RIP
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Piker
October 21st, 2012
Khrushchev fought against Hitler and the nazis too.
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Angrymike
October 21st, 2012
Well I agree with fur, maybe Hitler will get the chance to push the pineapple up and in just once……..
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Anonymous
October 21st, 2012
McGovern was part of this and the last six minutes of the video below are jaw-dropping. Bitterclinger posted it earlier and everyone on IOTW needs to watch it and forward it to EVERYONE on their list:
Thank you BFH for sticking to your guns about the socialist…this IS war!!!!!
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pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
@antiteabagger
Just what the fuk is playing fair, can you answer that for me you total misguided loser? How much “EXTRA” do you hand over every paycheck to support the belief in all of your socialist programs? Thought so…. Ya know, it’s funny, never heard boo from all you pricks when the economy was booming under Reagan and the Berlin wall was torn down. Oh yeah, I recall now, you were in that group of ass wipes off to the side banging your plastic pails and chanting “Rebuild the wall, rebuild the wall”. Fuk off you commie!
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I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
I second that.
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Goose
October 21st, 2012
McGovern has always been a strange hard to understand character to me. Like my uncle Joe, McGovern was an undisputed war hero. He made huge personal sacrifices in order to defend his country. How men with such experience can be so wrong politically is just impossible for me to understand. But it can’t be disputed that both, my uncle a p.o.w. and McGovern a 25+ mission bomber pilot are heros. What happened to them after, I can’t explain.
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vangrungy
October 21st, 2012
banging your plastic pails and chanting “Rebuild the wall, rebuild the wall”
I fucking ROTFLMAO
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serfer62
October 21st, 2012
The most condemmned man in US history is Bendict Arnold…
yet he twices save the fledging country once on the Great Lakes next at Saratoga…but he’s still the worst traitor ever.
I’ll have a drink, not for mcgovorn. but I just want a drink
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pops
October 21st, 2012
in 1972 voted for nixon aginst that turd. he has the honor of being one of the few poeple that i do not care or feel sad when they slide off into eternity. our country is better off without thier likes. bfh is rigth on the mark. by the way i also served. vn 68-69
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Redwagyu
October 21st, 2012
@Tony:
So did Stalin.
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Billy Fuster
October 21st, 2012
I agree with BFH–The only good commie is a dead commie.
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scr_north
October 21st, 2012
This is a tough one. On one hand he never represented himself as something he was not (for contrast see Obama) but on the other hand he was in the vanguard of a hard left movement within the Democrat party that eventually took over and bought America successively socialist lefty’s as president (Carter, Clinton and Obama, the former being incompetent and the latter two liars and con artists) who have managed to cripple the country finacially as well as morally and extended the legacy of citizen dependency on government started by the great liar LBJ with his War on Poverty assault on American values.
Considering the rogues gallery today (including Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the late unlamented Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) McGovern was positively honest but still bears responsibility for helping start off this mess. Wherever you may be, RIP.
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chiefillinicake
October 21st, 2012
The “Greatest Generation” also went on to straddle us with the America-killing Socialism that we’re gonna be lucky to ever be able to undo.
No, this isn’t a tough one. It’s not a tough call at all to make. It’s one of two distinct possibilities:
A) Either McGovern completely misunderstood what it was that he fought and died for,
or,
B) He knew at one time and forgot.
It ain’t rocket science, boys and girls. And as a born-and-bred South Dakotan, I knew McGovern in life better than most. I am under no obligation to mourn his passing, and so I won’t.
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Sam
October 21st, 2012
I Wonder how George will vote in this upcoming election. As if a little thing like death can stop someone from voting.
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Mr.Gates
October 21st, 2012
It may be what Ann Coulter wrote, I think it was in her book, Treason. The left fought in WW2 because Hitler was such a threat to their darling Soviet Union.
George McGovern – Socialist hero.
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antiteabagger
October 21st, 2012
What Nixon did to this country is factual. The supposed stuff about Obama is Rush Limbaugh nonsense.
Really, Antiteabagger? How do you account for the fact that ever metric of prosperity — EVERY LAST ONE — has declined between 2008 and now? You can not cite a single measurement of economic growth or personal income growth that is better now than it was four years ago.
THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why Obama has had such a hard time in the debates. He is being called upon to defend the indefensible, and you just can’t.
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Antiteabagger's Sock Puppet
October 21st, 2012
Wah! Nixon didn’t play fair! McGovern was cheated! Call the wahhhhhhhhhhhhhmbulance!
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charliewalksonwater
October 21st, 2012
I went down to the McGovern rally on election night in Sioux Falls, SD (I lived there) It was quite an event for SF.
Place was empty like Christs tomb. Even SD didnt want him, and I’d be surprised if Heaven does.
Damn skippy SD didn’t want him. McGovern’s home state went overwhelmingly for Nixon. Understand, this was before my time, and the father of the EPA and OSHA did movement conservatism absolutely no favors, but no way in hell were the people of South Dakota going to accept a doctrinaire liberal Democrat in the White House.
Who brought up Nixon’s resignation, douchebag? As I pointed out, he did no favors for movement conservatism anyway. The reason he resigned is because the dems in control of congress had a hard-on for impeaching him in revenge for the Alger Hiss affair. If not for that, Nixon would have been a liberal wet dream.
My father flew 30 missions in B-17s over Germany and bombed Nazis. He spent a year in Korea. However, he DID NOT become a big gov’t socialist whose policies were completely at odds with his gov’t service. My father sent two sons to Vietnam and damn near went himself.
Do NOT compare what my father did to what McGovern did. My father was honorable. McGovern actually thought that National Socialism and Soviet Socialism were fundamentally different and that somehow fighting Nazis gave him patriotic cache’ when he accepted Soviet Socialism as his preferred form of gov’t.
and Nixon conceaded to Kennedy in a closer race than Gore V. Bush 2000 because he didn’t want to harm the country by forcing a re-count, unlike your sissy boy internet inventor….
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pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
Antiteabagger-
This is all you got? Defense of some long forgotten socialist hack cronny? Go check your EBT balance, or check to see if the paint is dry on the “Main Street not Wall Street” posters you just made in your parent’s basement (right next to the medical marijuana you’re growing ’cause you DON’T HAVE A FUKING JOB)
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Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
Look, he was an American Hero,. A liberal with ideas that were diferent to how we think now. But he was not anti American, like the scum we are dealing with now. But he probably set the tone.
Moe Tom, he ran on raising taxes and won one state…Obama has the same platform and is ahead in the electoral count…Romney was dead on right about the 47%…we are 3% away from becoming Greece or the Soviet Union…that is what antiwork is all about.
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Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
BFH said:
“This knee-jerk SALUTING THE EX-SOLDIER is total BULLSHIT and you guys have to stop that shit.”
Exactly and here’s why. Anybody that comes out of our military, or our space program that ends up leaning liberal wasn’t paying freaken attention.
@Moe Tom He wasn’t anti-American? Really? How many liberals do you know that aren’t? He allied himself with the same cadre of folks who, a mere four years later, worked to bring down Richard Nixon because of Alger Hiss. I’m sorry, but Bad Brad is right: If McGovern wasn’t evil, he was weapons-grade stupid. We no longer have room in the body politic for that kind of gross intellectual laziness.
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BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
No, Moe.
I disagree.
McGovern was anti-American.
He was pro-soviet union, he was pro-socialism in a uniquely Soviet way.
He is the father of modern progressivism.
And he was rightly trounced when he ran. Now we are fighting for the very founding principles America was built upon.
It’s one thing to be a clueless asshole voter, like the casual schmuck who thinks it’s cool to have a black president, not knowing one friggin thing about the guy, and it’s another to be a politician that is a progressive.
They should die.
Natural causes,of course. But they should die.
The problem with wishing death (even naturally) on liberals is that there will always be liberals like my dad’s oldest brother, Uncle Pat, to sire a new generation of liberals like my cousin.
Clueless is one thing…and then there is the kind of weapons-grade stupid that SHOULD disqualify one from any position of trust, let alone elected office. I guess McGovern was just a few decades ahead of his time, eh BFH? [/snark]
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Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
I believe that George McGovern was an American Liberal. But he was not Anti American, He had a different view of America, with which I disagreed. I voted against him as did most Americans. The only State he won was Massecheutts(Can never spell that word). But I could handle George McGovern winning an election today, as a Democrat, over Barak Obama.
I was a Democrat before I was a Republican. They journey was a long and torturous one. Don’t break my balls.
You hagiographic bums making excuses for McGovern’s failures disgust me. This is a shining example of why we’re doomed.
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Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
There comes a point in the evening when I find it difficult to deal with you guys. But I am watching Fox and there is a lot of talk about the Lybia shit. The cover ups, the lies, the bullshit, etc. I sent a letter to you written by Dr. Charles R. Roots, Ex Sgt. USMC, called “Courageous.” I would like to see it on IOTW.
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pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
.. you can’t be a commie/socialist and also be a good American. Period. There AIN’T no in between.
I think Moe Tom and others would disagree with you, Pissed.
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Unruly Refugee
October 21st, 2012
The biggest celebration ever will come when barry Hussein is planted somewhere (hopefully Kenya so he won’t contaminate our soil). That will be a great day.
I won’t waste any words on mcGovern, because he did the right thing and died. So he is that much better than barry Hussein.
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Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
We could start by holding or judging liberals by how much of the constitution they’re trying to trample on. That’s where we need to draw the line with all politicians.
Problem with that, Bad Brad, is that most of the Republican Party isn’t much better. If we hold all politicians to constitutional standards, there would be many so-called “conservatives” that would be found sorely lacking.
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Jason in SD
October 21st, 2012
Anybody who thinks McGovern isn’t a communist because he fought in WWII needs to watch the Trevor Loudon video again.
Sorry. I just saw the part at the beginning where you mentioned “liberals.” Which I guess a good chunk of Republicans are…oy vey. Time for bed.
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Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
Gryph, Best thing that could happen to the American political system is to pass a law preventing one more dumb ass lawyer from running for office. I now apologize to any attorneys that may have taken offense to the crass statement.
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Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
But, then again I meant it, so deal with it. There’s lot of ambulances out there.
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Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
I agree 100% about the Washington lawyers. They are a greedy bunch who care more about their own ass and not so much about the little people.
They are paid to lie and restrict our freedoms.
Professional liars & crooks.
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Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
Unruly Refugee. 6 months ago I had some dumb as customer owned by a consortium of attorneys sue me, over defective product. Easily proved to be bull shit. But mean while I get my attorney involved and counter sue, pay him a bunch of money. Shortly a after that the customer drops there suit and files bankruptcy. My attorney says oh well, the attorneys sell off all their assets, nobody gets a penny except them. Mean while my attorney admittedly owes me a refund and now won’t return my e-mails or phone calls. I’m ready to start busting heads. But then I’d just be an asshole neanderthal. I hate fucking attorneys. Oh yeah, the assholes owed me 85k.
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Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
I hate the bastards too. I had to pay for my x-bitch’s lawyer fees when we got divorced, and the son of a bitch sent the law out to collect my ass three days after the court case because I hadn’t paid the mother fucker yet. So then I have to borrow money for bail and then hock my guns to pay it back and pay the fucking attorney fees.
Since then I have taken every new phone book I get in the mail and I tear out the hundred or so pages of ambulance chasing faggots for hire. Fuck em!
I hope you get your money back. Whatever you do, don’t hit a lawyer unless it is a fatal blow and there are no witnesses.
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Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
Unruly Refugee, No hope on the 85K. But we got lean and worked our way through it. My dumb ass attorney knows me from the gym and is already intimidated. I see his dumb ass around town every couple weeks. I’m way over due to run into him. It’ll be more than satisfying. He owes me less the 1k, but to me it’s become the point of the whole thing. If I owed him money he’d be slamming my name all over town. Sorry to hear about your troubles. Further proof, attorneys are the freaken scourge of the earth.
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Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
just for future reference so I won’t look like a liar if I mention this later, I have had a couple good attorneys. The one I have now is Irish and I lucked out because he became the city attorney.
So with the exception of the Irishman and another Jewish lawyer, I do hate the bunch of them.
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Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
And good to hear that you made it though it Bad Brad. Lawyers have destroyed a lot of businesses. It’s a corrupt system.
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The Proletarian
October 22nd, 2012
One more commie down, the world is that much more a better place! The problem with our retard commie bretheren is that they just can’t “Live and let live” They have to continually poke thier filthy snouts into other people’s business. They are grifters who feed off of other peoples misery. They are truly the totally useless third of our population.
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Joe
October 22nd, 2012
antiteabagger: I’d like to be your friend. I’ll be the only one you have here. (uproarious laughter heard in distance). Just kidding, Ass W.
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Anne
October 22nd, 2012
Fact: The childlike, bratty and [extremely] irresponsible anti-war activists like McGovern prolonged the war and got more people on both sides killed.
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Anne
October 22nd, 2012
Fact: The childlike, bratty and [extremely] irresponsible anti-war activists like McGovern prolonged the war and got more people on both sides killed by giving aid and comfort to our enemy.
antiteabagger
October 21st, 2012
It was America who lost when we were saddled with Nixon who didn’t play fair.
Ya, sure, moron.
Obama playing fair -
Accepting foreign money for his campaign. Boom. Right there that is more egregious than ANYTHING Nixon did.
Shall I go on?
Executive privilege to cover-up Fast and Furious.
Cover up of Libyan Massacre.
Sibelius breaks federal law and they insulate her and she still has her cabinet position
Obama leaks political advantageous National Security Secrets to the press while using the espionage act against reporters who dig a bit too deep into Obama failings.
Obama decrees that defense contractors not lay off workers prior to the election, in defiance of federal law, and then says he will cover the fines with tax payer money.
I’ll end there while you tell me what Nixon did that even comes close to any of this.
THE WORLD CANNOT WAIT for your answer, dickweed.
-bfh
Jerry Manderin
October 21st, 2012
Arlen’s gone. George is now dead. Who’s gonna complete the liberal trifecta?
Lisl
October 21st, 2012
Dare we name names?
Heh Timmy
October 21st, 2012
Stephen Ambrose had a great biography on the life of George McGovern as WWII war hero it’s a good read and will give you a new perspective on this liberal lion. As a conservative I must say I did enjoy reading that book. So long to another member of the greatest generation.
Tony R
October 21st, 2012
For all his faults, as a young man he flew B-24s and bombed Nazis. For that and that alone he should be honored in death
BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
No. I can give a shit what he did as a young man. He was a big government socialist. They should be voted out or dead. We got both now with McGovern.
I don’t play that weepy eulogy game.
I want leftist’s out of power or dead. Period.
I won’t kill them, but I’m not going to shout “hey, look out for that car.”
This is war. Remember that. It is. That’s not hyperbole.
Chieftain
October 21st, 2012
Exactly right Tony. McGovern had the guts to fly against the Nazis under incredible conditions and against overwhelming odds. I disagree with his politics but I honor and salute his Service to our Nation.
God’s Speed George.
vangrungy
October 21st, 2012
“It was America who lost when we were saddled with Nixon who didn’t play fair.”
go back to Reddit
Liberal Larry
October 21st, 2012
bigfurhat has just demonstrated what a fascist he truly is. All these “support the troops”conservatives only support the ultra conservative reactionary soldiers, but piss on the rest. He wants those dead who would make him pay a little more taxes, while his publishing company peddles more hateful books.
BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
This knee-jerk SALUTING THE EX-SOLDIER is total BULLSHIT and you guys have to stop that shit.
The guy flying in the plane is not a different guy than the “liberal standard bearer” McGovern. It’s the same guy.
It’s impossible to salute half a guy. It’s all or nothing, and I wouldn’t salute McGovern if he shot Hitler.
If one of the Seal Team 6 goes on to be an anti-American, socialist, commie sympathizing, wealth redistributing, big government politician one day – I’m not gonna salute him for killing bin-Laden.
I would want that guy to be as dead as bin-Laden.
I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
I know more than a few guys who served but espouse the socialist-commie, America deserves it, attitude.
They. Make. Me. Sick.
He was a commie before commies were cool.
Probabley opened the bombays over the channel when nobody was looking.
Roadmaster
October 21st, 2012
I will acknowledge McGoverns service, BUT as a whole he deserves as much honor as Ted Kennedy!
Just another loopy liberal, peddling his Marxist/socialist BS and propagating the EVIL SCOURGE on US that IS the DHIMMICRAT PARTY!!!
I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
Hey Jerry,
I vote for Olympia Snowe.
BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
Acknowledge? Yes. Those things happened.
Salute, or honor? Hell no.
He undid any good he possibly did during the war by crippling America from within with the same dumbass socialist, tyrannical big government policies he was “supposedly” fighting against.
Tim
October 21st, 2012
A lot of Soviet Communists bombed the shit outta their fellow socialists, the Nazis, too. Do we ‘honor’ them when they croak?
I stand behind George McGovern 1000%!
(paraphrased from McGovern’s declaration of support for Tom Eagleton a week before throwing him under the bus)
RIP
Piker
October 21st, 2012
Khrushchev fought against Hitler and the nazis too.
Angrymike
October 21st, 2012
Well I agree with fur, maybe Hitler will get the chance to push the pineapple up and in just once……..
Anonymous
October 21st, 2012
McGovern was part of this and the last six minutes of the video below are jaw-dropping. Bitterclinger posted it earlier and everyone on IOTW needs to watch it and forward it to EVERYONE on their list:
http://www.trevorloudon.com/2012/10/an-urgent-message-for-america-please-help-this-go-viral/
Thank you BFH for sticking to your guns about the socialist…this IS war!!!!!
pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
@antiteabagger
Just what the fuk is playing fair, can you answer that for me you total misguided loser? How much “EXTRA” do you hand over every paycheck to support the belief in all of your socialist programs? Thought so…. Ya know, it’s funny, never heard boo from all you pricks when the economy was booming under Reagan and the Berlin wall was torn down. Oh yeah, I recall now, you were in that group of ass wipes off to the side banging your plastic pails and chanting “Rebuild the wall, rebuild the wall”. Fuk off you commie!
I Luv Bacon
October 21st, 2012
I second that.
Goose
October 21st, 2012
McGovern has always been a strange hard to understand character to me. Like my uncle Joe, McGovern was an undisputed war hero. He made huge personal sacrifices in order to defend his country. How men with such experience can be so wrong politically is just impossible for me to understand. But it can’t be disputed that both, my uncle a p.o.w. and McGovern a 25+ mission bomber pilot are heros. What happened to them after, I can’t explain.
vangrungy
October 21st, 2012
banging your plastic pails and chanting “Rebuild the wall, rebuild the wall”
I fucking ROTFLMAO
serfer62
October 21st, 2012
The most condemmned man in US history is Bendict Arnold…
yet he twices save the fledging country once on the Great Lakes next at Saratoga…but he’s still the worst traitor ever.
I’ll have a drink, not for mcgovorn. but I just want a drink
pops
October 21st, 2012
in 1972 voted for nixon aginst that turd. he has the honor of being one of the few poeple that i do not care or feel sad when they slide off into eternity. our country is better off without thier likes. bfh is rigth on the mark. by the way i also served. vn 68-69
Redwagyu
October 21st, 2012
@Tony:
So did Stalin.
Billy Fuster
October 21st, 2012
I agree with BFH–The only good commie is a dead commie.
scr_north
October 21st, 2012
This is a tough one. On one hand he never represented himself as something he was not (for contrast see Obama) but on the other hand he was in the vanguard of a hard left movement within the Democrat party that eventually took over and bought America successively socialist lefty’s as president (Carter, Clinton and Obama, the former being incompetent and the latter two liars and con artists) who have managed to cripple the country finacially as well as morally and extended the legacy of citizen dependency on government started by the great liar LBJ with his War on Poverty assault on American values.
Considering the rogues gallery today (including Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, the late unlamented Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) McGovern was positively honest but still bears responsibility for helping start off this mess. Wherever you may be, RIP.
chiefillinicake
October 21st, 2012
The “Greatest Generation” also went on to straddle us with the America-killing Socialism that we’re gonna be lucky to ever be able to undo.
And they spawned the Hippies.
So let’s call it even.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
No, this isn’t a tough one. It’s not a tough call at all to make. It’s one of two distinct possibilities:
A) Either McGovern completely misunderstood what it was that he fought and died for,
or,
B) He knew at one time and forgot.
It ain’t rocket science, boys and girls. And as a born-and-bred South Dakotan, I knew McGovern in life better than most. I am under no obligation to mourn his passing, and so I won’t.
Sam
October 21st, 2012
I Wonder how George will vote in this upcoming election. As if a little thing like death can stop someone from voting.
Mr.Gates
October 21st, 2012
It may be what Ann Coulter wrote, I think it was in her book, Treason. The left fought in WW2 because Hitler was such a threat to their darling Soviet Union.
George McGovern – Socialist hero.
antiteabagger
October 21st, 2012
What Nixon did to this country is factual. The supposed stuff about Obama is Rush Limbaugh nonsense.
Menderman
October 21st, 2012
This is McGoverns legacy:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/1972/president/1972_elections_electoral_college_map.html
and it should be Obama’s as well, but we no longer have an independent media.
McGovern built that^^^^
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
Really, Antiteabagger? How do you account for the fact that ever metric of prosperity — EVERY LAST ONE — has declined between 2008 and now? You can not cite a single measurement of economic growth or personal income growth that is better now than it was four years ago.
THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why Obama has had such a hard time in the debates. He is being called upon to defend the indefensible, and you just can’t.
Antiteabagger's Sock Puppet
October 21st, 2012
Wah! Nixon didn’t play fair! McGovern was cheated! Call the wahhhhhhhhhhhhhmbulance!
charliewalksonwater
October 21st, 2012
I went down to the McGovern rally on election night in Sioux Falls, SD (I lived there) It was quite an event for SF.
Place was empty like Christs tomb. Even SD didnt want him, and I’d be surprised if Heaven does.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
Damn skippy SD didn’t want him. McGovern’s home state went overwhelmingly for Nixon. Understand, this was before my time, and the father of the EPA and OSHA did movement conservatism absolutely no favors, but no way in hell were the people of South Dakota going to accept a doctrinaire liberal Democrat in the White House.
antiteabagger
October 21st, 2012
Nixon had to resign. Waaaaa on that.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
Who brought up Nixon’s resignation, douchebag? As I pointed out, he did no favors for movement conservatism anyway. The reason he resigned is because the dems in control of congress had a hard-on for impeaching him in revenge for the Alger Hiss affair. If not for that, Nixon would have been a liberal wet dream.
Stranded in Sonoma
October 21st, 2012
My father flew 30 missions in B-17s over Germany and bombed Nazis. He spent a year in Korea. However, he DID NOT become a big gov’t socialist whose policies were completely at odds with his gov’t service. My father sent two sons to Vietnam and damn near went himself.
Do NOT compare what my father did to what McGovern did. My father was honorable. McGovern actually thought that National Socialism and Soviet Socialism were fundamentally different and that somehow fighting Nazis gave him patriotic cache’ when he accepted Soviet Socialism as his preferred form of gov’t.
Fuck him. Hey, FDR! Another one is on the way!
Menderman
October 21st, 2012
and Clinton was impeached, Nixon was not…shove that up your liberal tail pipe antiteaasshole
Menderman
October 21st, 2012
and Nixon conceaded to Kennedy in a closer race than Gore V. Bush 2000 because he didn’t want to harm the country by forcing a re-count, unlike your sissy boy internet inventor….
pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
Antiteabagger-
This is all you got? Defense of some long forgotten socialist hack cronny? Go check your EBT balance, or check to see if the paint is dry on the “Main Street not Wall Street” posters you just made in your parent’s basement (right next to the medical marijuana you’re growing ’cause you DON’T HAVE A FUKING JOB)
Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
Look, he was an American Hero,. A liberal with ideas that were diferent to how we think now. But he was not anti American, like the scum we are dealing with now. But he probably set the tone.
Menderman
October 21st, 2012
Moe Tom, he ran on raising taxes and won one state…Obama has the same platform and is ahead in the electoral count…Romney was dead on right about the 47%…we are 3% away from becoming Greece or the Soviet Union…that is what antiwork is all about.
Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
BFH said:
“This knee-jerk SALUTING THE EX-SOLDIER is total BULLSHIT and you guys have to stop that shit.”
Exactly and here’s why. Anybody that comes out of our military, or our space program that ends up leaning liberal wasn’t paying freaken attention.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
@Moe Tom He wasn’t anti-American? Really? How many liberals do you know that aren’t? He allied himself with the same cadre of folks who, a mere four years later, worked to bring down Richard Nixon because of Alger Hiss. I’m sorry, but Bad Brad is right: If McGovern wasn’t evil, he was weapons-grade stupid. We no longer have room in the body politic for that kind of gross intellectual laziness.
BigFurHat
October 21st, 2012
No, Moe.
I disagree.
McGovern was anti-American.
He was pro-soviet union, he was pro-socialism in a uniquely Soviet way.
He is the father of modern progressivism.
And he was rightly trounced when he ran. Now we are fighting for the very founding principles America was built upon.
It’s one thing to be a clueless asshole voter, like the casual schmuck who thinks it’s cool to have a black president, not knowing one friggin thing about the guy, and it’s another to be a politician that is a progressive.
They should die.
Natural causes,of course. But they should die.
Menderman
October 21st, 2012
Who wants to salute this ex-soldier?
http://www.theliberaloc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Bradley-Manning.jpg
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
The problem with wishing death (even naturally) on liberals is that there will always be liberals like my dad’s oldest brother, Uncle Pat, to sire a new generation of liberals like my cousin.
Clueless is one thing…and then there is the kind of weapons-grade stupid that SHOULD disqualify one from any position of trust, let alone elected office. I guess McGovern was just a few decades ahead of his time, eh BFH? [/snark]
Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
I believe that George McGovern was an American Liberal. But he was not Anti American, He had a different view of America, with which I disagreed. I voted against him as did most Americans. The only State he won was Massecheutts(Can never spell that word). But I could handle George McGovern winning an election today, as a Democrat, over Barak Obama.
I was a Democrat before I was a Republican. They journey was a long and torturous one. Don’t break my balls.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
You hagiographic bums making excuses for McGovern’s failures disgust me. This is a shining example of why we’re doomed.
Moe Tom
October 21st, 2012
There comes a point in the evening when I find it difficult to deal with you guys. But I am watching Fox and there is a lot of talk about the Lybia shit. The cover ups, the lies, the bullshit, etc. I sent a letter to you written by Dr. Charles R. Roots, Ex Sgt. USMC, called “Courageous.” I would like to see it on IOTW.
pissedpatriot30
October 21st, 2012
.. you can’t be a commie/socialist and also be a good American. Period. There AIN’T no in between.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
I think Moe Tom and others would disagree with you, Pissed.
Unruly Refugee
October 21st, 2012
The biggest celebration ever will come when barry Hussein is planted somewhere (hopefully Kenya so he won’t contaminate our soil). That will be a great day.
I won’t waste any words on mcGovern, because he did the right thing and died. So he is that much better than barry Hussein.
Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
We could start by holding or judging liberals by how much of the constitution they’re trying to trample on. That’s where we need to draw the line with all politicians.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
Problem with that, Bad Brad, is that most of the Republican Party isn’t much better. If we hold all politicians to constitutional standards, there would be many so-called “conservatives” that would be found sorely lacking.
Jason in SD
October 21st, 2012
Anybody who thinks McGovern isn’t a communist because he fought in WWII needs to watch the Trevor Loudon video again.
Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
Gryph, That’s why I said All Politicians.
Gryph
October 21st, 2012
Sorry. I just saw the part at the beginning where you mentioned “liberals.” Which I guess a good chunk of Republicans are…oy vey. Time for bed.
Bad Brad
October 21st, 2012
Gryph, Best thing that could happen to the American political system is to pass a law preventing one more dumb ass lawyer from running for office. I now apologize to any attorneys that may have taken offense to the crass statement.
Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
But, then again I meant it, so deal with it. There’s lot of ambulances out there.
Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
I agree 100% about the Washington lawyers. They are a greedy bunch who care more about their own ass and not so much about the little people.
They are paid to lie and restrict our freedoms.
Professional liars & crooks.
Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
Unruly Refugee. 6 months ago I had some dumb as customer owned by a consortium of attorneys sue me, over defective product. Easily proved to be bull shit. But mean while I get my attorney involved and counter sue, pay him a bunch of money. Shortly a after that the customer drops there suit and files bankruptcy. My attorney says oh well, the attorneys sell off all their assets, nobody gets a penny except them. Mean while my attorney admittedly owes me a refund and now won’t return my e-mails or phone calls. I’m ready to start busting heads. But then I’d just be an asshole neanderthal. I hate fucking attorneys. Oh yeah, the assholes owed me 85k.
Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
I hate the bastards too. I had to pay for my x-bitch’s lawyer fees when we got divorced, and the son of a bitch sent the law out to collect my ass three days after the court case because I hadn’t paid the mother fucker yet. So then I have to borrow money for bail and then hock my guns to pay it back and pay the fucking attorney fees.
Since then I have taken every new phone book I get in the mail and I tear out the hundred or so pages of ambulance chasing faggots for hire. Fuck em!
I hope you get your money back. Whatever you do, don’t hit a lawyer unless it is a fatal blow and there are no witnesses.
Bad Brad
October 22nd, 2012
Unruly Refugee, No hope on the 85K. But we got lean and worked our way through it. My dumb ass attorney knows me from the gym and is already intimidated. I see his dumb ass around town every couple weeks. I’m way over due to run into him. It’ll be more than satisfying. He owes me less the 1k, but to me it’s become the point of the whole thing. If I owed him money he’d be slamming my name all over town. Sorry to hear about your troubles. Further proof, attorneys are the freaken scourge of the earth.
Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
@Bad Brad
just for future reference so I won’t look like a liar if I mention this later, I have had a couple good attorneys. The one I have now is Irish and I lucked out because he became the city attorney.
So with the exception of the Irishman and another Jewish lawyer, I do hate the bunch of them.
Unruly Refugee
October 22nd, 2012
And good to hear that you made it though it Bad Brad. Lawyers have destroyed a lot of businesses. It’s a corrupt system.
The Proletarian
October 22nd, 2012
One more commie down, the world is that much more a better place! The problem with our retard commie bretheren is that they just can’t “Live and let live” They have to continually poke thier filthy snouts into other people’s business. They are grifters who feed off of other peoples misery. They are truly the totally useless third of our population.
Joe
October 22nd, 2012
antiteabagger: I’d like to be your friend. I’ll be the only one you have here. (uproarious laughter heard in distance). Just kidding, Ass W.
Anne
October 22nd, 2012
Fact: The childlike, bratty and [extremely] irresponsible anti-war activists like McGovern prolonged the war and got more people on both sides killed.
Anne
October 22nd, 2012
Fact: The childlike, bratty and [extremely] irresponsible anti-war activists like McGovern prolonged the war and got more people on both sides killed by giving aid and comfort to our enemy.
Barf O'BiteMe
October 22nd, 2012
1972: America 49, Massachusetts 1
2012: America 56, Kenya 1
or somethin’