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Because of the Success of the “Tooters” Rant Post – Here’s Another
Well, since my “tooters” rant didn’t alienate as many folks as I thought it would, let’s take another bite of the apple and see how many feet this shoe fits.
These people are WORSE than tooters., in fact, they are the worst of the worst, and I am POSITIVE this is going to rankle some feathers.
I have no use for commenters who write -
“Why should we care what they think?”
or
“I don’t need to hear what this guy has to say.”
Well, whoopie doo for you.
Here is why this sort of comment is not only unnecessary, it is actually aiding and abetting the left.
This is nothing but a vanity comment that reveals little to no understanding of how the control of the narrative is won.
The fact that you are adamant that you don’t want to hear about Jason Biggs’ twitter rant is meaningless to what we are doing with this sort of post– isolation, ridicule and hopefully the stifling of future progressive rants from pop culture morons.
There are political neophytes out there who actually allow entertainers, TV personalities and celebutantes to shape their political views. In the absence of anyone refuting, disputing and ridiculing their idiocy it seeps into the minds full of mush unabated.
We are here to abate, not abet.
The commenter who says, “why should I care what they think?,” implying that we shouldn’t care either, is helping Jason Biggs spew his idiocy by cockblocking a counterattack. If Biggs is confronted head-on with ridicule he just might shut the frig up in the future. Biggs may not even hold progressive views so dearly, he may be mouthing off thinking it is a great career move, and if no one confronts him he will continue to shape the public discourse with his brand of casual, yet destructive, leftism. Despite your ignorance, he has a louder and more influential microphone than most, and you have to provide the reasons for people to adopt your “I’m ignoring them therefore it didn’t happen” strategy.
If ONE person e-mails a funny propaganda attack about something stupid that, say, Bill Maher said, and it is seen by some 17 year-old kid who is trying to decide whether Bill Maher is right or not, and that piece shows him that there are people out there who think Bill Maher is a dicknose, and that kid says to a friend, “I think Bill Maher is a dicknose”, that piece moved a mountain.
Tell me again what the “Why should we care what Bill Maher says?” comment accomplishes, except maybe demoralize the creator of the post that you’re belittling.
Oh, and one last thing.
The commenter that says, “WHO?”, when we are isolating, ridiculing and dismantling a celebrity is akin to saying “I’m old, irrelevant, clueless, and the world and it’s young snotty leftists have passed me by. Throw some lime on me.”
If we’re doing a piece about someone and you’ve never heard of them, you can be rest assured they have a substantial following on either Twitter or Facebook. You’d be much more useful to simply join in on the fun of making mincemeat out of them, or quietly move on to another post.
/rant
historicus
September 3rd, 2012
I don’t need to hear what this guy has to say. Why should I care?
Unruly Refugee
September 3rd, 2012
You have a thumbs up button, how about a thumbs down button to let them know how important their lousy opinion is?
Unruly Refugee
September 3rd, 2012
And I was kinda wonder if that whole horn tooting thing may have had something to do with me making loud comments at 2:00 a.m. ?
tripseven
September 3rd, 2012
“how about a thumbs down button”
Cuz some hack jackass will hit down button a million times rendering it useless.
Left Coast Dan
September 3rd, 2012
I am well aware that when I make comments, on any site and subject, I am unlikely to change the mind of the person I am targeting. No, my goal is to educate the other observers, the independents who need more information and maybe a little push to educate themselves, to consider what is really right and important, and perhaps to take a stand either now or on some other issue. I trust that the more people in general are educated, the better overall results we will have.
Wyatt, Insensitive Jerk
September 3rd, 2012
“Why should we care what they think?”
Because that type of attitude gave you the empty “Hope and Change” election and the empty suit in the White House.
Unruly Refugee
September 3rd, 2012
Yeah, I forgot about the leftist trolls.
FreeMan - Sarah Dissed Again
September 3rd, 2012
Who?
Katechon
September 3rd, 2012
“The commenter that says, “WHO?”, when we are isolating, ridiculing and dismantling a celebrity is akin to saying “I’m old, irrelevant, clueless, and the world and it’s young snotty leftists have passed me by.”
Well I did ask who was this Biggs moron. I didn’t have a clue. It wasn’t a rhetorical question : just wanted to know whom was he, why was he more relevant than the millions of other clueless morons ranting on twitter.
THAT is different. That is asking so you can join in on the fun and know whom you are bashing. The other way is a way of saying “I’m bored, can we talk about something else? This is so stupid. Don’t you know that pretending that we are not losing the culture war is the way to win it?” -bfh
FreeMan - Sarah Dissed Again
September 3rd, 2012
I get it.
But but
OK I say “Who” to a post about Billy Chinballs is me saying he is irrelevant to me.
BUT
A passer by would think that I was the one ill-informed or ignorant.
Progs don’t get sarcasm.
Bad Brad
September 3rd, 2012
Not that hard to find out who these idiots are, a why the have any claim to fame.
tripseven
September 3rd, 2012
A reply button would help the ridiculing. Also, how can we talk iOTW to add a refering link when we click “Notify me when new comments are added.” That way, when you come home to 50 million replies you can go straight to the thread and read em there.
Just a suggestion…not a complaint
Dismas In Wonderland
September 3rd, 2012
I don’t need to hear what this guy has to say. Why should I care?
Because,
“The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke [maybe].
norman einstein
September 3rd, 2012
If I remember correctly, Biggs is the one who tweeted disgusting things about Ann Romney.
I DID comment, honestly, that I’d never heard of him.
“If we’re doing a piece about someone and you’ve never heard of them, you can be rest assured they have a substantial following on either Twitter or Facebook.”
Then, wouldn’t it be more effective to take them down on THOSE media? Maybe I’m wrong, but I didn’t think their respective followings would actually lurk here at IOTW.
No ruffled feathers here…just curious.
Unruly Refugee
September 3rd, 2012
I don’t do twitter or facebook. (can I be arrested for that?) I just do iOTW.
exceller
September 3rd, 2012
I can see your first point, but not so much the second. Lots of different people out there, square pegs, round pegs and a wide range of commenting styles. I think all of them should be welcomed whether they merely say “who?” or write a complete essay, because there may be other like minded people out there who understand and relate better to the “who?” comment than the essay. let’s be tolerant and not categorize each other as old or clueless based on our comments. Isn’t it the other side that likes to paint people into little stereotypes and categories?
Diann
September 3rd, 2012
I cannot stand watching Rachel maddow. I don’t want to hear her condescending voice. I hate her snotty looks. But you’re right. If we don’t know what our enemies are doing we cannot fight them. Jason Biggs is a douche. But unfortunately there are mind numbed robots who follow his inane tweets. How can we combat these imbeciles if we don’t know what imbecillic things they’re saying?
BigFurHat
September 3rd, 2012
Norman,
No. We ridicule them here, and then you know who they are and then when somebody says that their kid is liking the Mutant Ninja Turtles you can tell them what the star of the show said.
You can take the agitprop you find here and spread it on any social media you care to.
Why limit the war theater?
Why limit yourself with ammunition when you are talking to someone whose kid is wearing a MNT shirt?
You tell them that the star of that show said that he’d like to bang Ann Romney in her bleached anus. Then when they don’t believe you, you send them the link to the iOTW post.
What are you going to do if I do my agitprop on twitter?
You might ever have heard the story.
cakes
September 3rd, 2012
Hey y’all. Expose them. They think they are untouchable. We sit by while the left destroys our people in very personal ways. Enough already.
CAKES!!!!!!!!!!!??????!!!! Is that really you??????
Holy mother of God, this is a great day!!!
NEW PEOPLE, in case you don’t know, Cakes is a superstar commenter from early on,
one of my favorites ever, and I am over the moon that I see this comment.
Okay, my bad mood is over.
-bfh
BigFurHat
September 3rd, 2012
Exceller -
There are two different types of “who?” comment.
There are the ones that legitimately don’t know and WANT TO KNOW so they can pick up a hand grenade and fling it at the douche.
Then there is the other one. The one that is trying to be a hipster doofus, by implying that not knowing who these people are is far better than knowing who they are.
Not knowing who they are, and then adamantly refusing edification based on some theory that simply ignoring them will make them go away, and somehow reanimate Ronald Reagan in the process, is foolish.
And I don’t know how many times I have to say, on behalf of all content producers I know, how demoralizing that comment is before you heed the advice I am giving- Stop doing it.
I’d be very happy to post the Red Skelton reading of the Pledge of Allegiance as a sticky post and call it a day.
That way the young people can go, “who?”
Elwin Ransom
September 3rd, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k
.
BigFurHat
September 3rd, 2012
Cakes is back, so, ya, I will lighten up.
Nutjob
September 3rd, 2012
Here, here, bottoms up, pip pip cheerio, and keep up the good work to all the contributors at IOTW.
Sarcasm will get you nowhere! heh- bfh
Diann
September 3rd, 2012
CAKES!!!! Oh mylanta how I’ve missed our favorite Hollywood make-up artist!!!
Moe Tom
September 3rd, 2012
There are soooo many people that I never heard of.
Claudia
September 3rd, 2012
Fur, I so agree with you. Sometimes I get overwhelmed at all the shit going on and have to bow out or ‘hermitize’ myself. But that doesn’t help our war effort.
Another irritating comment is: “I already knew that”, or “That’s from two years ago”. So? Are you trying to say that it’s unimportant because it’s old news to you?
soapbox/
cakes
September 3rd, 2012
Love y’all, missed y’all so much. This Obama economy sucks,been working 16 hour days.
Kisses to bfh!
Ps: phuck Ellen Barkin, the old hag.
Did you mean that literally? ooops Mr. Pinko
Moe Tom
September 3rd, 2012
But Cakes? Yes I remember Cakes.
Diann
September 3rd, 2012
So, um. Fur. Cakes is one of your favorites, huh?
I KNEW it! I just KNEW IT! He always liked you best, Cakes.
I said ONE OF, ONE OF. Now, if you’re angling to be on that short list you have
one thing going for you already. – bfh
Tim
September 3rd, 2012
Asking “who?” and “why should I care what this twatwaffle says?” are simply ways to ridicule the offender by implying that it is beneath contempt.
Hi, Cakes!
Also, I don’t twit, or that other stuff, or watch network TV, so I really don’t know who a lot of these enemanozzles are. Though it’s readily obvious that they are hate-filled, mean-spirited, socialist, dirt-bag, scum-sucking, half-sissy, demonrat pukes.
cakes
September 3rd, 2012
Don’t fret, Diann, bfh has a big bed, we can all lie in it. (;
Diann
September 3rd, 2012
Oh, dear. I would, but I’m already on record telling him I could just hug him (emphasis on the “just”).
Bob M.
September 3rd, 2012
“If we’re doing a piece about someone and you’ve never heard of them, you can be rest assured they have a substantial following on either Twitter or Facebook.”
Sooo… their fanbase is impressionable 12 year old girls, and 30-something virgins living in their parent’s basement?
Well I certainly can’t IMAGINE why that WOULDN’T appeal to most IOTW readers… like me…
cakes
September 3rd, 2012
Mr. Pinko, if you would like, go ahead. Just put a bag over her face first ,unless you’re into that old hag thing. Who am I to judge?
jclady
September 3rd, 2012
Hello Cakes — missed you!!!!!
As for the “who” question, if I don’t recognize a name I do a quick search so I can educate myself on why this person is making news. Not being on FB or Twitter is no excuse to keep my head in the sand.
BigFurHat
September 3rd, 2012
Bob M.,
There are plenty of rock bands out there that I have never heard of. Sometimes I’ll read a quote that the singer has said about conservatives or something overtly pro-Obama in a lying fashion, and my first reaction is “never heard of them.”
That doesn’t comfort me. I look them up on youtube and see that they are playing to 30,000 people, not 13 year-old girls.
So I should give the guy a pass because I never heard of him and because you never heard of him, and let him going on saying his bullshit as if he has no opposition at all?
If not us, who?
I have no idea why this is even an argument, frankly.
I’m not seeing a good case being made for the “why should I care what they think contingency.”
But I’m open to hearing the arguments.
simply enraged
September 3rd, 2012
Damn, Cakes, good to read you again!
Zonga
September 3rd, 2012
If I don’t care to comment on a thread, whether or not I know the subject, fug you BFH. I don’t have to sit here and massage your ego all day. So your little guilt trip trying to get more comments should be embarrassing.
And another thing, you took away the list of posts currently on the front page, so fug it – I can’t find my place anymore (AGAIN) without a lot of scrolling and being jerked around.
You just want to please yourself. You should be grateful for the peeps who come here at all. It’s a fun site overflowing with agitprop and humor. But it would be nothing without the posters. Telling us what not to post and your attempted abuse of us and how we spend our time is typical liberal BS.
This is the kick in the azz you asked for.
Hey, I luv you man.
Katechon
September 3rd, 2012
” And another thing, you took away the list of posts currently on the front page, so fug it – I can’t find my place anymore (AGAIN) without a lot of scrolling and being jerked around.”
Right. And that is so ANNOYING.
WHY did you do that Fur? WHY???????
Repent, reput, and apologize.
Bob M.
September 3rd, 2012
“There are plenty of rock bands out there that I have never heard of. Sometimes I’ll read a quote that the singer has said about conservatives or something overtly pro-Obama in a lying fashion, and my first reaction is “never heard of them.”
That doesn’t comfort me. I look them up on youtube and see that they are playing to 30,000 people, not 13 year-old girls.
So I should give the guy a pass because I never heard of him and because you never heard of him, and let him going on saying his bullshit as if he has no opposition at all?”
If you’re WANTING to stretch YOUR fanbase, that’s all good & well, I suppose. I dare say a MAJORITY of your readers’ formative YEARS coincided with the REAGAN Administration. I grajuamayted from hi skrool in ’85 – right smack dab in the middle of those years. Might be fun to take a survey of THAT, perhaps.
Our kids might listen to such “noise” (like OUR parents, anything I DON’T recognize is, “Turn that NOISE down!!!”), and so perhaps you’ll have some crossover appeal to them. Just DON’T act all surprised, when a MAJORITY of your readers respond with the big, “WHUH?!?!”
Lowell
September 3rd, 2012
Point taken. I was one of the guilty. By indicating I didn’t care what ever twatwaffle mouthed whatever inanity, I was assuming (yeah, that mistake) that they would hear by some method they were being discounted by someone who bothered to discount them.
So, in lieu of mere discounting, I’ll be more specific in my head slaps going forward.
Rightwingfeather
September 3rd, 2012
Uh oh…I see myself in that rant.
Ok. I will stop.
HI CAKES!!!
jclady
September 3rd, 2012
@Zonga — I really don’t think Fur is concerned with anyone not commenting on a thread as much as he is concerned with those who comment by saying, “who is this turd?” and “I don’t care”.
To me, this is not about more comments. It’s about intelligent comments.
jclady
September 3rd, 2012
@Bob M. — My comment to Zonga applies to you as well.
I don’t care when our “formative years” occurred. Are you suggesting we shouldn’t stay informed with the current influences on the electorate?
If so, I strongly disagree. We have to know our enemy.
cakes
September 3rd, 2012
Jc lady hit it out of the park. Do not confuse being aware of the existence of these arses with being followers of these arses. Antipathy could lead to anarchy.
Xavier
September 3rd, 2012
@Bob M.
Not to pile on, but the point being made wasn’t the quality of music or expanding iOTW’s “fanbase”, it was that people with a fan base (music, movies, whatever) can make vicious or inaccurate comments which are accepted as fact by their fans, – and that those comments deserve refutation.
And, the innerweb completely negates your Reagan Administration argument – nobody is required to reveal their age unless they choose to, and candid conversations can occur across generational divides, occupations, and life experience that might not be possible face to face.
Bob – I’m not trying to be a smart ass. I just think maybe you got sidetracked off the point being made. Think about it.
Bob M.
September 3rd, 2012
I prefer to be judged – in PART – by the company I keep. IOTW’ers, SI! Teenyboppers? NOT so much…
Have AT them…
jclady
September 3rd, 2012
But Bob M. — as the parents of GenXers, I assure you the followers of these people are not “teenyboppers”. They are 20-30 somethings that have not yet totally connected with the real world, but they DO vote.
Xavier
September 3rd, 2012
Bob, nobody’s asking ya to keep company with ‘em – we’re talking about a smackdown!
jwm
September 3rd, 2012
Point well taken, BFH. Being TV free I miss a lot of what passes for pop culture these days. I’m one of the “who?” guys who really doesn’t know who these clowns are. But I can still pitch a damn good flameball when the occasion warrants. Just point out the targets, and I’ll let ‘em fly.
JWM
Hannah
September 3rd, 2012
grrrr most of you all know I have a huge chip on my shoulder about young people being written off by the older genreations and BOB M you take the mother fucking cake in being the poster boy for everything that is wrong with older conservatives. You don’t want to associate with us “teeny boppers” fine, but when the voting base that you could have won over by just showing some interest in todays young adults and teens completely turns liberal because liberals seem to understand better than conservatives that the young vote is very important.Don’t you dare ask yourself 10 years from now why America is no longer a democracy.
Any way I couldn’t agree more fur. Saying who or I have no comment is only edifying the commenter and wasting space on the internet.
jclady
September 3rd, 2012
@Hannah — please make one correction in your comment.
“Don’t you dare ask yourself 10 years from now why America is no longer a democracy.”
America is, and always has been, a Republic — not a democracy.
Foso de liberales venenosos
September 3rd, 2012
I get it, I think. If some dickweed is successfully brainwashing people, kids, voters, potential enemies, we should get to know the bastard good enough to destroy him with his own material or at least make other people aware of the danger. Instead of running off to some eye & ear candy post, right? Because this is the war and, as pitiful a pissant they may seem to be, they are the enemy spreading their propaganda and poisoning our (not mine) children.
And who the fuck is Bill Maher? (lol)
tripseven
September 3rd, 2012
@Hannah
Bravo Hannah, bravo!
We must look back on our own lives a couple decades ago and realize WE DIDNT KNOW SHIT! Life is too vast to understand everything at a such a young age! Turn yer back on the young and watch what side they end up on…
Jack Daniels
September 4th, 2012
Late as usual.
I completely agree with the idea that we must know our enemy, though there are many. I too at times have asked who the hell is this person or that person, because like some others here, I do not watch TV, or have cable.
I have even commented in anger that I could care less of the opinions of people like Ann Coulter and other turncoats, yet reluctantly, I still read their diatribe. You cannot fight an enemy you cannot identify because you never wanted to be bothered.
My 16 year old son and his friends help me stay current with the new batch of fools. In turn I help them to intelligently decimate their socialist arguments, they are after all, the ones that will be carrying the torch when I am finish fighting the good fight.
Perhaps though, I am becoming too fatalistic, because the way I see it, there is an avalanche of idiots out there and the time will inevitably come when mere retorts, rebuttals and verbal smack-downs will necessarily be replaced with actions.
Frosteetoes
September 4th, 2012
Hi Cakes! Welcome back!
So, what I’ve garnered is that if we are clueless about the person or topic it is our duty to research the person or topic so that we can make fun of them in an intelligent way.