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Bill OK’d by Calif. Legislature would encourage more illegal immigrants to pay income taxes

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) – California lawmakers approved legislation Friday that would allowillegal immigrants to voluntarily join a program and pay state income taxes in exchange for leniency in their immigration status.

The state Assembly approved SB901 by Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, on a 42-30 vote, sending it to the state Senate.

Supporters say encouraging more illegal immigrants to pay taxes could generate more than $300 million annually, but the state Franchise Tax Board said the legislation would likely have no effect on state revenue.

Workers would need to apply to the state to be part of the five-year pilot program and meet certain criteria, including not having any felony convictions, learning English and living in California at least since 2008.

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  1. grayscape

    September 3rd, 2012

    First thing California has done right – tax illegals. Now maybe they’ll go back to Mexico …or Arizona where Sheriff Joe will round ‘em up.

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  2. Xavier

    September 3rd, 2012

    April 16, 2013: How can you deny them full citizenship? They pay taxes don’t they?

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  3. moarkdave

    September 3rd, 2012

    “…in exchange for leniency in their immigration status.”
    I thought it was the Federal Government that decided immigration status. If Arizona can not enforce immigration laws already on the books, how can California make their own laws and decide who is legal and who is not?

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  4. John F.

    September 3rd, 2012

    I’m sure actually raising revenue is a secondary concern. Democrat politicians just want to normalize the status of their constituency-in-waiting.

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  5. Boobie the Rocket Dog

    September 3rd, 2012

    Encourage? Surely they jest.

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  6. Unneutral

    September 3rd, 2012

    Encourage, urge, what the hell is that? Does my income fall under that category?

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  7. Stranded in Sonoma

    September 3rd, 2012

    …to voluntarily join a program and pay state income taxes…

    According to CA, their income tax system, like that of the federal gov’t, is based on voluntary compliance right now. So how would this change anything? If the illegals decide not to volunteer, does that mean that I can decide to not volunteer as well? And if not, why not? Both systems are voluntary, or so says the gov’t.

    Exit questions:

    1 — If your state income tax system is based on voluntary compliance, why do you need enforcement personel?

    2 — Why is there a need to enforce something that the gov’t claims is voluntary?

    3 — If I don’t volunteer for the current voluntary compliance income tax system the FRB will surely arrest me; so, if an illegal alien in CA doesn’t volunteer for this new law, can I demand that the Franchise Tax Board arrest them for income tax violations?

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  8. dope n change

    September 3rd, 2012

    ya mean with that feloniously obtained SSN ?!?!

    continuous communist creepiness

    oh, hey, will they get triple the number of deductions then? perhaps earlier retirement? cadillac healthcare like the public sector employees [[i can just NEVER call them workers anymore]]

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  9. kevin in troy

    September 3rd, 2012

    how’s this grab ya
    from article:

    The program would not launch if federal officials disagreed.

    PPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT

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  10. Stranded in Sonoma

    September 3rd, 2012

    @dope n change — That occurred to me, too. If they “volunteer” for this new law, how many deductions will they get? And will the CA legislature, in the future, pass new deductions specifically for illegal aliens? Wanna bet they will?

    The state claims it will increase tax revenue by $300 million. But what if all the illegals fall into the pay-zero-and-get-refunds category? Won’t that be a drain on the CA treasury?

    I believe too that this is just a way to stop the-illegals-can’t-vote crowd. Once they pay taxes, that argument becomes a little more difficult to sustain. And the Enemedia™ will label you racist if you don’t go along.

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  11. T-Bone

    September 3rd, 2012

    This is prima facie evidence that the CA legislature is racist.

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  12. dope n change

    September 3rd, 2012

    @Stranded in Sonoma [[ya racist]]

    think i got it — since it’s a new ‘law’, they’ll wildly overestimate the revenues (what else?); then in a coupla years it’ll be TOO “expensive” to attempt to collect on since it’s just so small a percentage of the $20-40 billion deficit.

    it’s like bob barkers Plinko. no matter how many of those little stinking pegs it caroms off of it always gets to the bottom :

    WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION

    sure hope they have enough money left to send their sose security checks down to MEHheeco

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  13. 123321123321

    September 3rd, 2012

    Ehh… who in their right mind thinks that illegals will voluntarily pay income tax? Bwahahahaa!

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  14. Rightwingfeather

    September 3rd, 2012

    Geez. Those CA folks really are delusional.

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  15. Anonymous

    September 3rd, 2012

    Citizenship for sale!
    Citizenship for sale!
    Get your citizenship here!
    Citizenship for sale!

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  16. Noelegy

    September 3rd, 2012

    Next thing, they’ll be wondering why nobody is “voluntarily” signing up for it.

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  17. Maudie N Mandeville

    September 3rd, 2012

    9-3-2012: “no felony convictions, learn English and live in California at least since 2008.”

    9-4-2012: 9th Circuit Court finding: “RACIST requirement; Citizen!”

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  18. Wyatt, Insensitive Jerk

    September 3rd, 2012

    Darell Steinberg is, intellectually, low to no wattage. At least the state controller recognizes that no one will “voluntarily” pay taxes and that the additional net revenue to the state is roughly zero. Steinberg, on the other hand, is likely to pretend that this measure will result in trillions of dollars to California and increase spending accordingly.

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  19. Jim

    September 3rd, 2012

    They’re already legal in California. Drive down Tennyson Ave. in Hayward. It looks like a Home Depot in Zacotecas.

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  20. Rodney Dangerfield

    September 3rd, 2012

    Pay your taxes, the government will send the money to Mexico for you.

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  21. Geoff C.

    September 3rd, 2012

    I can hear them all going Ha! Ha! Ha! What a bunch of dumb gringo’s. Jose says, “We get free stuff, kill their people,[and get off] because they are so kind to us. (Look it up) And then our kids who have kids are Americans, and then, they let us bring our family’s to America too. Then we get more free stuff. I love America, land of free stuff; thank you Democrats”. Seattle is one of the cities that also gives drivers license’s to anyone that want’s one, and free whatever. Washington is as bad as California’ just look at who is in DC from our state. We can’t wait to move out.

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  22. MaryfromMarin

    September 3rd, 2012

    @Jim–

    Are you from Hayward? I used to live in Fremont. Things sure have changed, haven’t they?

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  23. scr_north

    September 3rd, 2012

    There’s nothing more fun than cracking open a six pack, popping some Orville’s and reading the tax raising ideas and other shenanigans coming out of California. Hell, if they want to make real bucks off the illegals than make it legal for an illegal to sell dope and then tax them. You’d raise a hell of a lot more than 300 million and it’s no more crazy then selling citizenship to the highest bidder.

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  24. Foso de liberales venenosos

    September 3rd, 2012

    They have to sign a statement saying that they will vote for 0bama to show him how thankful they are for their new found freedom.

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  25. KSierra

    September 4th, 2012

    WTF! I can’t volunteer to pay my taxes! Maybe all the taxpayers should move out and see how long the libs will allow voluntary taxes. Enough of this crap!

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  26. Bill in AZ

    September 4th, 2012

    The curious thing about the creeping bestowing of ‘constitutional rights’ on illegals is that they deny them the right to bear arms. If they’re allowed to be here, can drive, pay taxes but can’t vote of bear arms…what the hell are they?

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  27. Billy Fuster

    September 4th, 2012

    Watch out–they might become conservatives.

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