Home - by BigFurHat - August 11, 2012 - 17:53 America/New_York - 23 Comments
I’m 41 sees Ryan as a liability and an exploitable vulnerability, one so big that he sees Obama as a shoe-in if a certain issue isn’t addressed promptly.
August 11th, 2012
“Although “Mitt Romney has never introduced or stated any plans to modify the railroad retirement” he has not put this issue to rest.”
So, I’m 41 is pulling a Dingy Harry here? Get with the program, bro. Stop aiding and abetting the enemy.
FreeMan - Chick-fil-A today
Railroad retirement? I hope he doesn’t say anything about it.
That is what is wrong with all Unions today.
The rest of us are broke but at least those railroad guys got theirs. Thanks AmCrap
@Xavier – This is not “aiding and abetting the enemy.”
This is a heads up to what Obama is doing behind the scenes, and counting the false information that Obama is spreading.
You need to read it before you accuse me of pulling a dirty hairy.
our country is broke and some asshat wants to protect the railroad workers.
the problem is everybody wants theirs safe, sound and protected and screw grandchildren.
i am done with special interest groups.
@reddecaesari — this has nothing to do with government funding. These people are putting their money in a private trust and don’t want the government to get to and blow it on moonbat government programs.
The Jimmy Z Show
This is an issue that all conservatives better pay attention to. The system and funding is private. If you stand by the raiding of the system, there will be hell to pay. I’m quoting an Amtrak employee here. Take him at his word or Romney will pay the consequences:
Brett Blanchard (via facebook, reprinted with permission):
“WE get nothing more than pilots or any other vital craft. When you are hauling 15, 20, 50 carloads of hazmat through downtown, thought peoples backyards, like CHLORINE or TUOLOMENE, you want us treated with kid gloves, you want us awake and aware. Yeah, we have protections, but one exploding carload of LPG will kill more folks than 15- 20 A380′s. And LPG cars are often hauled in trains 20-30 or more at a time…one goes, they all go …. like dominoes. Look, Romney just lost my vote. Period. Lifelong Repub, my vote now will go to Obama. I have 25 years of railroading in, 5-10 years to go. RR retirement is potent, among the very best retirements out there for union guys, even by union standards. And, it is comepletely PRIVATE. Not one thin dime of public funding goes to my retirement. I pay for it, so does Amtrak. He wants to raid it, set my retirement to SS levels, f?*@ him, I will do all I can to ensure Obama gets into office……f?*@ Romney. Use THAT on your show brother…”
Then later, after I asked him: “If he came out and said he would take his hands off it, i would reconsider my position…..”
This is going to be the rule, rather than the exception.
@41 – So if the RR retirement fund is so private, how does the Ryan budget plan appropriate the money? Emminent domain? Outright theft?
@Jimmy – “I pay for it, so does Amtrak” –
Then so do the taxpayers – how many billions does Amtrak get in gov funding every year?
It is only semi-private – It is set up the way Social Security was ordinarily intended.
The Railroad Retirement Act separated these guys from paying ss, which means that their money goes into a trust instead of the general fund. It is a trust that is still controlled by the government, but is protected from the government getting to it.
A swipe of the pen could change this law, so yes “outright theft.”
Something our government does on a regular basis.
My previous comment may have been a misstep but portions of your writing can easily be construed as confabulation. I’m not saying they are, mind you, just that it’s easy to interpret them that way. After careful rereading, I do understand the points you’re trying to make.
@Xavier Thank you. You will find that I am the most conservative sop on the planet.
sob — with a slight case of dyslexia
however, they are federal employees that work for a dying industry that you and i prop up vis a vis taxes.
how about the entire railroad industry being privatized?
99.9999999% of the RR are private companies BLE, KCS, BN… etc . I am talking a about rail freight — not transportation, which just by default happen to fall under the same laws.
These moonbat projects need to become totally private or go away.
Hey Casey Jones, get in line!
Good article, BC. I see your point. Besides, there are SO many other gubmint programs Romney can gut without putting a dent in the RRR. The RRR isn’t the problem. The gubmint is.
How about we take care of the Vets first and pay those down range more then someone punching tickets on a train, or stealing taxpayer money for solar panels 41.
Better start now or you won’t have anyone else to blame when you are 61, if you make it that long under OBysmal care.
If you threaten to vote for Obama unless x,y or z happens, which benefits only you, then I say go ahead and vote for him. You are one-in-the-same as the teachers unions. The “I’m a lifelong Republican” line is likely a crock of shit anyways.
You union people gave Bill Clinton 8 years to f*#K over all the non-union blue-collar workers in this country. You weren’t there for me when NAFTA closed 40,000 factories. A little ‘austerity’ in your retirement funds may be character building for you.
August 12th, 2012
Right on Mahtomedi! (By the way, are you in Minnesota? I’m just a few miles east of Mahtomedi, MN)
Chuck U Farley
Anyone and everyone that writes a sentence, or utters a phrase like, “Romney just lost my vote. Period. Lifelong Repub, my vote now will go to Obama.” I call major BULLSH!T on.
I’m so sick of assclowns like this that will throw away their country over some perceived nonsense, and don’t even concern themselves enough to do a little research. If they can’t have enough common sense to see Obama is going to take away EVERYTHING that EVERYONE has, and ‘redistribute’ it is a FREAKING MORON and deserves to march immediately to Obama’s Happytime Re-education Camp & Free Health Care Gulag!!!
Well said, Chuck U!!!
@venturaguy – Last thing I read said Amtrak gets 1.5 billion dollars from the tax payers annually. And their employees are unionized and don’t give a rat’s ass about the quality of service they provide. They rarely run their trains on schedule, they don’t take good care of passengers, and I know they give free rides to favored passengers based on a conductor’s whim. (My mother-in-law was given a free ride because she happened to mention it was her birthday. What gives that ass-hat conductor the right to do that?)
Only 2% of Americans ride Amtrak trains. Yet we’re paying billions to keep financially unjustifiable train lines running. The average passenger is subsidized around $12 a ticket. But there are lines where each ticket takes $450 tax dollars to purchase.
Amtrak needs to be totally defunded. Let then sink or swim on the merits of their own business practices. No more welfare trains! If it costs that much to ride a train, you can buy a Greyhound ticket.
As for the railroad retirement fund, we should all have a plan that good. It’s time to kill social security.
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