Home - by BigFurHat - August 10, 2012 - 00:24 America/New_York - 22 Comments
Everyone survived, but the pilot doesn’t look very good in the footage taken in the aftermath. This is eerie footage because no one is talking. They are all in some sort of daze.
See it HERE
August 10th, 2012
I didn’t speak for days after the ultimate plane crash was elected. “They are all in some sort of daze.” Yes, I/we was/were in a daze. Like dreaming that our great country died and went to hell.
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I was expecting to see some very obese people but they must have just been carrying too much shit with them to allow them to gain proper altitude. The word, “jettison” comes to mind.
Looks like Idaho.
I can’t tell for sure what model plane it is, but I see the venturi on the side and I know it’s older. Most older 4 seat airplanes aren’t actually meant to carry 4 adults.
The pilot is an idiot! He was overweight and it was probably pretty warm up there in the mountains. He’ll probably blame a mechanic…Pilots usually do…even with phantom problems.
And he is not a good pilot just because no one died! Besides not taking off in the first place, he could have at least circled the strip to try and gain some altitude.
Why did they put the venturi on the outside? Wouldn’t that make it prone to ice-ups? That is the point of highest vacuum in a carburetor.
That venturi in’t connected to the carb. It creates a vacuum and runs the attitude indicator and Directional Gyro.
Ah, I got you. I was going to watch the video again but having trouble with youtube.
I’ve only flown flight sim software. Dad was a WWII pilot who flew the Hump in C-47s. Unpressurized over the Himalayas. He had lots of stories about taking off heavy.
They can clog and thats why they don’t use them anymore. I suspect this plane had a vacuum pump installed…most do. The venturi was just left on probably for aesthetics.
They were lucky to live through it. Bet they upgrade if they fly again with that many people.
And one more thing…This pilot really is an idiot! I watched the video again, and I saw that the pilot left the mixture control at full rich. At the altitude he was most likely at, that is a big no no.
There’s too much fuel going to the engine and it can’t make it’s rated power. I’m surprised the engine wasn’t sputtering.
Last time I flew was with an experienced pilot in a twin Beechcraft through thunderstorms. The good pilot made the trip enjoyable. Rough as hell though. It wasn’t until we got back on the ground that he scared the hell out of us on the freeway with his high-speed tailgating and stunt driving. Couldn’t wait to get back up in the air where we would be safe.
Jim is exactly correct – the aircraft was grossly overloaded. I believe it was a PA-20 Piper Pacer. The older models only had 135HP motors. You could tell things weren’t going to work out well when it took miles to get off the ground.
The specifications for the PA-20 read “Capacity: three passengers”.
I think the Kitty Hawk flew higher.
Just seeing 4 people in the cockpit and knowing I was going to watch a crash was all I needed to tell you there was too much weight in the plane.
1. He took off full rich at altitude in warm weather
2. He rolled it out way past the halfway point, didn’t even consider aborting
He thought he was smarter than the physics of his craft.
Definitely a preventable accident and pilot error.Clear case of density altitude and being outside the operating envelope. Even after dragging it off the ground a couple of times they drop back down. That should have been the “ah-hah” moment… “maybe we should throttle back and stay on the ground”
The crash scene from Cast Away is better.
Through my pilot resources the plane was identified as a Stinson 108.
It was also mentioned that he lost lift during a slight bank to the left. This is typical of every aircraft, lift is traded for direction and since he was near stall speed, it was inevitable the plane would go down. This can also be seen near the end of the video showing the high angle of attack, the wing should be level with the horizon if the aircraft was flying correctly.
Man. I am way out of my depth on this thread. I liked Top Gun but know nothing about flying. I’ll leave it to you guys who seem to know what the heck you’re talking about.
GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!!!
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Nice to have your own “shoot yourself in the foot” footage as the FAA revokes your license for being an idiot.
Even if the Stinson had a Franklin in it he had to be close to 20lbs per HP.
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I reckon that pilot will pay the Piper with his incompetence. That pilot looked at the ground with a Lear. Guess he won’t be fishing the Gulfstream anytime soon. He Vought to have stayed on the ground. I guess he ran into a purple Martin.
(I’m running out of general aviation jokes here, dammit)
August 11th, 2012
It troubles me that the guy with the camera was more concerned about making a youtube video than he was about pops bleeding in pain with his swollen head propped up on a fallen branch.
The part where he grabbed his lower lip to display the gash would earn him a severe beating in my family. They should have the first aid kit out and try to comfort the agonized man, at least put a jacket under his head.
It seems the top priority of the day was to get something to put on youtube. wtf?
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