There is a guy I met on Twitter, Gary Howard, who is advocating that everything be for free. I blogged about how stupid this notion is. It took a little while, but he’s arrived. Can he defend his views?
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Czar of Defenestration
July 31st, 2012
Too stupid for me.
His words conjure up the image of a plucky Vladimir Lenin dancing in a pink tutu (with curry chips stains) spreading flowers like a Stinky Hippie.
The Doktor
July 31st, 2012
Gary – Put your money where your Leftist mouth is. My car died last month. I NEED one to get to work and to pay taxes so that the lazy assholes like your ilk can TAKE from working people.
$2,500 ought to do it. Just send it c/o The Doktor to this website via PayPal.
P.S. – I’m certainly not gonna hold my breath on this one!
The Doktor
July 31st, 2012
GARY!
Ah, HELL! Make it £2,500!! It’ll probably need new tires and brakes.
Katechon
July 31st, 2012
LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL
Stranded in Sonoma
July 31st, 2012
We tried the no money thing a few millenia ago. It wasn’t that it didn’t work, it just didn’t work well. When the touchstone was found and you could be assured of the gold or silver content of a nugget or a coin, people started using money. Mostly because it was easier to carry around a bag of money than your entire herd of cows.
Then people found out something about money. Not only was it a medium of exchange but it also valued everything else, including labor. If 10 pairs of sandals are equal to one cow but now with money one cow is worth a gold coin, then you know that 10 pairs of sandals are one gold coin too. And if you paid someone one cow for a week’s worth of work, then you, and they, know what their labor is worth as well.
Money has four functions:
1) Unit of account — as I just stated above it’s how we value one thing to another.
2) Medium of exchange — Facilitating the exchange of goods and services into a simpler form.
3) Store of value — That is, money not spent immediately can be saved and stored for later use and ideally it should buy as much later as it would if spent currently.
4) Unit of deferred payment — Money can be loaned to others who may have a greater immediate need for it than its owner.
And a story that proves money will never go away. After WWII, the German economy was broken. The reichsmark had zero value and was useless as money — no one wanted to take something that may not retain its value. So…the GIs and the German people started using cigarettes as money. And smoker or not, it was worth your while to trade in cigarettes because they were in such high demand. Once the Allied Powers got their arms around the economy, they issued paper money the people could trust and everyone stopped using cigarettes. But the cigarettes served a vital function until the provisional gov’t and its money were accepted by the populace.
Money will never go away.
Czar of Defenestration
July 31st, 2012
@ Doktor
That would be tyres for Limey….
Katechon
July 31st, 2012
Bread as well served as medium of exchange and unit of accounts.
But gold and silver can also serve as stores of value.
Czar of Defenestration
July 31st, 2012
Katechon, a bullet has a “more persuasive” value…especially in Gary’s fantasyland.
&Turdbiscuits 4 All
July 31st, 2012
I suppose if we all just quit our jobs and start using rocks for money, maybe we could all get together and sue Hollywood and Liberal Media for making us too stupid to think. I think?
bob
July 31st, 2012
Reading thru the comments on the other page – really good discussion. Once again an example of an idea that seems nice on the surface but will inevitably end up a terrible disaster.
I think it would be really really cool to create a movie or tv series set in the Star Trek universe but show the seedy underbelly. Instead of the shiny clean manicured Starfleet civilization, show the non-conformists and leaches.
Because, as we all know, if one doesn’t HAVE to work, one WON’T work. Much. Today. Maybe tomorrow, but … not today.
norman einstein
July 31st, 2012
“As stated, there’d be no widespread laziness.”
Poor Gary…so delusional, so naïve, so lost.
RANDO
July 31st, 2012
I wonder what makes Gary think there wouldn’t be gangs in this hypothetical society, dedicated to enriching themselves at the expense of others weaker or more complacent?
Welcome to your future, Gary.
mkultra
July 31st, 2012
LOL. Either Gary is related to another vacuous writer named Jim Hlavac or Gary has had relations with Jim Hlavac. I guess both could be true.
In any case Gary has failed to convince me that he’s not an idiot. He’s failed to identify the primary obstacle to his idea: human nature. He also casually dismissed human nature and incentive as obstacles to his plan. Overall a pathetic defense of a really dumb idea.
mkultra
July 31st, 2012
Maybe Gary can get started selling his merchandise by leaving some of his really bad ideas outside of his front door. Overnight, the chinese manufacturing fairies can then take the bad ideas and leave behind the pens and t-shirts he wants to sell.
theJadedBarrel
July 31st, 2012
Gary, the only way you’re going to get my A/C is by prying my cold dead body off of it.
To bad Marx father didn’t drop Karl in the middle of Zulu land to reflect upon his fantasies.
Tim
July 31st, 2012
Still say it’s satire – nobody is that fukkin stupid.
Another example of why England is finished.
DavidD
July 31st, 2012
What a friggin’ idiot.
The Doktor
July 31st, 2012
Hm. Capitalism has worked in America for over 200 years, making our country the richest and most free country the world has ever seen (until “the man calling himself Obama” came along, that is).
Utopia has worked for how long? Where?