iOwnTheWorld.com

After reading this post and the comments I invite you all to read this post.
This is important to me.
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=138196

+5

Dear God, that post is longer than any of Ace’s.

+9

Ann Barhardt gets a LOT of facts wrong, Paul has NEVER asked for money at An Ex-Con’s View and he NEVER claimed to have been SWATted, for example, and she has clearly missed all of the vital work he has done in exposing the BK goon squad including the emails from that Rauhahuaser character which have gone a long way into unmasking the BK conspiracy.

Funny how some people are so quick to trash Paul Lemmen and dismiss all the effort he has put into reforming (and also exposing the Brett Kimberlin goon squad) but don’t have a damned thing to say about Ali Akbar’s status as a convicted felon even though he DOES solicit and handle people’s money and how despite AA’s numerous public ttacks against fellow conservatives and the fact that he only seems to be sorry that his crimes became public knowledge, legions of bloggers still line up to kiss his butt and anyone who raises legitimate questions about his organization becomes a target for harassment. Odd, that.
When Ann talks about Ali Akbar and his history and the strange and murky history of the national Blogger’s Club, then maybe her rantings against Paul Lemmen will seem more like genuine concern than simply a vindictive attack against a lesser mortal than herself.

I suggest people read FilmLadd’s post about Ali Akbar here:
http://filmladd.com/?GoodLuck
There will be much more information coming soon elsewhere.

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I may be totally off base here, but after his past fully came to light, I’ve been suspicious he is also masquerading as a certain non prolific female blogger that popped shortly after time he got out of prison……I really hope I’m wrong about this.

I can assure you that your suspicions can be laid to rest on that one. -bfh

+2

@Ann I eagerly await your commentary about the President of the highly esteemed National Blogger’s club who is also a convicted felon that has a nasty habit of publicly attacking fellow conservatives which goes back more than a few years.

+7

[...] that is the case for Paul Lemmen, blogger at the website “An Ex-Con’s View.” According to iOwnTheWorld: Now to Paul Lemmen.  His latest online persona popped up in early January of 2012.  His blog is [...]

+1

9 times out of 10 I can’t stand to read Ann Barnhardt, ( no offense your article’s just tend to drag on) but I have to completely agree with her on this one especially considering that if he pretends to have been SWATed all of the legitimate SWATings become something to be questioned because of one attention grabbing bastard. It’s to easy to hide behind the internet to trust anyone on the internet.

+7

Actually, Hannah, that’s a factual error. He didn’t pretend to be SWATed at all.

+6

that’s why I said IF he pretends to be SWATed filmladd.

+9

Okay Hannah – sorry, didn’t mean to misread your comment.

+3

Funniest thing…I have begged Paul Lemmen for some way to contribute to his blog. I get nowhere. His response to those who ask to contribute to the cause was to create a “Donations” link that goes directly…wait for it…to others’ blogs.

How nice that Ali Akbar disclosed his criminal past to a “select few”. I’m sure the little guys in the trenches appreciated that.

Given my choice between the two felons, I’ll take Paul Lemmen any day of the week.

+6

The post is about the lesser of two evils.

+4

@bad brad it is the same guy. Like was mentioned earlier he hasn’t done anything but shown interest in the kimberlin thing but still, an attention whore like him won’t pass up an opportunity I’m sure.

+7

@ FilmLadd

I wasn’t speaking of Zilla
We have been in contact and she knows this.

+7

@Anonymous

Thus, Barry Baracka Barack Hussein Soetero Obama must be at a Guiness world’s record HIGH!!!!

+1

Let’s see if I got this straight.

Plemmen.

yeah didn’t fur hit him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper a while back? Called him out and didn’t see much else from him.

ALways whining about the tribulations being locked up and how he has been transformed.

Zilla got suckered once already, cause he tried to get donation money off her fiegning a illness.

Apparently Your strong enough to be suckered again by this tool, Z. I’m really glad your feeling better.

I pity any fool cursed enough to fall under the wrath of Saint Ann.

I Pity this fool.

Just to clarify, there is no indication at all that Paul Lemmen has publicly solicited funds from any blogger. He did, however, accept gifts from The Right Planet readers after he announced he had Pancreatic cancer. There’s a distinction there, not a moral one, a legal one. – bfh

+6

I know, BFH. It’s an interesting article. I have no stake in this story. I’ve stayed away from the BK saga for the most part (excluding a humorous angle) because it’s convoluted (and increasingly so), and far bigger and better bloggers than I am have done a fine job of telling it. If this is part of the story, that’s fine. I don’t begrudge Ann for telling it. It’s just not my fight. I’m not going to defend or deride anyone. I’ll just keep my boot on the throat of Obama and the rest of the moonbat. That’s my place, I believe.

+4

Personally, I believe the addiction to conning is far greater and more dangerous than drugs or alcohol. The two latter are substances which will either destroy its host, or will be overcome and cleansed from the body. The former however, is a psychological addiction to power and control that feeds the individual’s ego brought on by the damage and manipulation it leaves in the lives of its victims, with no outward physical damage to the con. It’s a high without the inevitable destruction of the human body which allows the con to continue for decades, while fine-tuning his ‘art’

The more elaborate the con, the more victims, the greater the lie, the greater the high.

I really do not like cons…wait…isn’t there one in the WH too?

+7

Sorry folks that ‘Anonymous’
is me. and I posted twice. I don’t know what happend to my avatar or why my name went to Anonymous.

+6

It’s never a distraction to root out evil with the harsh light of the truth.

My dad told me long ago, your reputation is everything. Keep it untarnished or you’ll have to work twice as hard to get it back to good.

This Lemmen guy ruined his own rep, on purpose it sounds like. I,for one, will not trust anything he says until he has proven himself.

He said just as much in a post when BFH exposed his lie. He told jclady to let him clear his name by his actions.

Anyone think his actions now are helping his rep? I don’t. I see the same old shenanigans (sp?).

My 2 cents. For what it’s worth.

+9

@I Luv Bacon
You said:
“Zilla got suckered once already, cause he tried to get donation money off her fiegning a illness.”

I am NOT “feigning an illness” and I am too sick to seal with this shit any more. I’m done.

+1

First off, I may be Zilla’s oldest friend online. We used to run a forum together, and have been around each other for 7 years. Zilla is real, a patriot, a true good person.

Now, what’s this shit about Paul Lemmen? I have been an ardent defender of reformed cons since I am one myself. You have NO EFFING idea how hard it is until you have been there. I have made my crimes known to all who associated with me, and the reason that I don’t have a donation button on my blog is out of RESPECT for those who think a con can never be reformed, and the fact that I don’t need the support of others to live. I am an excavation contractor, and the government contracts I sign require me to disclose PROACTIVELY my criminal record. And believe me, my record is FAR worse than Paul’s. Paul preyed on the money of big ass corporations who weren’t even hurt by his doings. I was the biker, the debt collector, the drug turf control guy. I beat, shot, dealt, you name it I fuckin’ done it.

If I, the one your mother warned you about, can be a productive member of society and make amends, what makes you think Paul can’t do the same?? Even Rodney fucking King was apparently reformed when he passed. Mike Tyson reformed. Hell, Former POTUS Georges W Bush reformed from cocaine and whiskey. Why not Paul eh?

This is fucking pathetic to say the least; attacking a man when he’s down, and under attack by the Kimberlin Goon Squad, and now you, the Ali Akbar fucking minions. SHOW ME where Paul said he was a victim of SWAT-ing! I dare you. I double dare you. He showed support and NEVER hid anything to the right wing nut jobs me and Zilla are. And for the writer of this post to COMPLETELY avoid the subject of Ali ”Month-long-crime-spree” Akbar’s alleged misuse of funds collected by NBC is a fucking joke at best. Informing a ”select few” of it doesn’t fly. It’s the DONORS who need this info, not the elitist jerkoffs that are is surroundings. At least Paul had the decency of INFORMING US he was a con, before hand.

To the former TheRightPlanet crowd: Show me PROOF (not assertions and suspicions) that whoever you named is in fact Paul H Lemmen. If you are all so fond of justice as you say, you will know that THINKING it’s the same guy will NOT hold in ANY court, except in Maryland, where the judges are most likely experiencing with ”bath salts”.

To Sard: What damage did Paul Lemmen do to you( assuming it was in fact Paul)? He HELPED you build traffic, and generated CASH that you also used. I think you are all just ASSUMING he is that person, with no TANGIBLE evidence. One more thing: you would be very ill-advised to call Zilla a fool in my presence again. You have no idea how hard her life is and how much she gives back to the movement. I will not stand here while you insinuate shit on my bestie. We don’t know each other, Sard, but you will regret EVER saying that again.

Again: When will the elitist (bastard) bloggers from NBC look into Akbar’s NON DISCLOSURE of his criminal record (as WARRANTED by the Non-Profit Organization rules)?? You won’t, you elitist fucks, because you wouldn’t want to be dragged into this and damage your OH-SO-IMPORTANT status in the dextrosphere. You show up at CPAC looking for pats on the back, and are NOT AT ALL concerned that small time bloggers like Zilla, Paul and me are the ones who fight the down and dirty fight every day, so that you can keep your nose clean. You take our posts without even proper acknowledgment, and make them your own.

I’m not saying you should trust Paul with your life savings, but at least give him the common courtesy that EVERY CHRISTIAN deserves: the chance to make amends and be an upstanding citizen and PATRIOT.

Now, since you all probably think I am another persona of Paul’s, let me tell you that you can google me any day, under MaxPower1971 (my former handle) and that I have been online since the very beginning of the web as we know it.

One last thing: BRA-FUCKING-VO to FilmLadd! You are what I want to see in today’s youth, kid! A true patriot who believes that EVERYONE deserves a chance at being good. Thank you for being who you are!

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I find it interesting that if the light of truth does indeed shine from and in his blog, why Paul has chosen to go dark?

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found the pic Ann

http://www.repubblica.it/2003/e/gallerie/esteri/camauro/afp72919392112130717_big.jpg

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Is this him?

http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/500/216741583.jpg

+8

Damn. An Orthodox BISHOP, no less!

+4

No, I don’t have a pic. Yes I read the post, but fast read, because Her posts always drag on and on and on.

Hard labor can be working in the linen if you’re sick.

How were you a victim of Paul’s again BFH?

And Why is Ann asking about a pic? I didn’t take that road, but she is still refusing to expand on Akbar. Me thinks the lady don’t protest too much on that subject.

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[...] views to detail in full, there is one that I found extremely important. It was a comment posted on an Anne Barnhardt article about me. The comment was by “Big Fur Hat:” It’s not a personal vendetta against Lemmen. [...]

+1

Mr Pinko you are a sick man!

All though I’d have it no other way!

+6

Might I suggest.

http://www.bswatch.com/

Cause that dude was full of it.

+5

When did our modern prison system get hard labor?

+4

Hey, I just got here. What’s going on?

+2

Taken from the supposed proof link in the text:

…wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. Oh how true that statement is! I am a sinner, a former con-artist, invalid and illicitly ordained Orthodox Deacon, Priest and Bishop as well as having engaged in many other sinful and criminal acts and I have served time in Federal prison.

Notice how he says INVALID AND ILLICITLY??

And I didn’t threaten. I promised. Fuck with my friends and you fuck with me. And you don’t want that.

Even if my opinion doesn’t change, why can’t we see the proof?? What does my opinion have to do with showing the EVIDENCE? I’m confused….

0

I can see that this situation would cause you hurt, BFH, but how are you sure of WHO THAT PERSON IS?? That is the whole logic of my intervention! You don’t know, others don’t know, hell I don’t know. But in doubt, you gotta give the benefit of the doubt. That’s the reformed con man way to go (for me anyways)

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Impolite Canadian. Will you answer bfh’s questions and stop with the threats? You are threatening people in public. You know better, right?

I feel so sorry for you because your rep will be tarnished and PL will just rise up as another identity and sadly you may still believe in him. What does it take? What?

+8

See, right away with the Mr Reformed shit. Not because I don’t engage in criminal activity that my temper isn’t boiling and that yes, sometimes a good ol 5 knuckle sandwich is in order. You dont insult my friends. Period. No matter who you are.

ROTFLMAO – Reformed Ex-Con? From this one post you are a douche’ bag! If I were you, I’d use that right to remain silent, otherwise you are just digging a hole. Mr. Pinko

0

@ Uncharitable
You got that right. Let him go off a cliff with Lemmen.

+7

“Key Board Tuff Guy.”

I know, right? lolol

+6

Watever you say ”bad” brad lol.

0

I also see that Paul Lemmen has read this article and has responded.
No one can accuse Paul of not being a smart man. He is.

After I was made aware that Paul was Poison To Libs, something that PAUL HIMSELF told me to be true, I told him that he should understand that I could not link to An ex-Con’s View any longer.
He knew exactly why.

I wished him well on his road to recovery, and I meant it.
I told him that TIME is what it will take.
Time, we can’t rush time.

I’m not denying that he is a talented blogger, I told him he was even AFTER the PTL betrayal.

I told him last night he is going too fast.
I know the game of public perception.
I am deadly serious about what it is we do at iOTW.
Hannah has this right. It is not personal, it is business.
Paul just concurred.
Keep doing what you are doing, Paul.
Keep blogging.
You are just not the right guy to be doing the, albeit successful, special ops for this particular mission.

+9

No,Bacon. I am not.

+1

‘Impolite is probably plemmen”

I wondered that too, Bacon. lol

—————-
“The Magistrate Judge is firmly convinced that if this individual were released, he would be attempting to perpetrate a fraud on someone before the sun set that same day. The Defendant would also flee at the first opportunity. He has done so repeatedly in the past and undoubtedly would do so again.”
—————–

+8

At the risk of missing something here, I believe Paul admitted that he was PTL on his own Ex-Con’s View blog:

http://anexconsview.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/rip-poisontolibs/

+6

No! Not your beautiful face!!! hahaha

+1

Let’s not go off on more weird speculation.
IC is not Paul because Zilla would know that, and Zilla is ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!!!!!

+9

Taudry Audry,

Holy cow, I am STILL LMAO on the Orthodox Bishop thing, though. I’m guessing, being a man of the cloth, he’s absolved himself of all his misdeeds.

+8

Mr. Pinko, Yes…very ironic, that.

+4

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+1

@Impolite, It is here that you are expressing your hurt, while promising to dispense some. It’s your attachment to belief in someone that is being challenged. It’s written between the lines of your threats. Everyone who has ever been through rough times knows the value of the benefit of the doubt, and are inclined to extend it to others who have taken a ride down some pretty nasty roads.

It doesn’t mean you’re married to that generosity in each and every case, or that rescinding that benefit makes you less than. You can be wrong.

If someone told you of this – laid out the series of events sequentially – about someone you didn’t know – what would you say? If you read one of the things being written in 2006: http://www.arrse.co.uk/multinational-hq/27194-foreign-walts-2.html, comment #19, what would you say? If you were told of similar behavior continuing up to the recent (by a matter of months), what opinion would you have?

I mean a 5X5 just-the-facts recitation. Would you think this person one with whom you would entrust your daughter or your retirement fund, let alone support through a site on the internet?

Either you can step back, ditch the blustering I-promise yammering and take a long hard look, or stick with “I know what I know”.

+7

Create ‘Shiny Objects’ while Obama, Holder, Sibelius, Chu, Sunstein, Holdren, Lisa Jackson, et al destroy our country.

I respect all who seek truth in this blog war, but the main focus must be eliminating the ‘enemy within’ … the sociopath in the Whitehouse and all his cohorts.

+7

If Lemmen keeps this up, (injecting himself in the SWATing issue) he can very well be sucked into the investigation that some of the congressmen are doing re: the SWATing. I’m sure Lemmen will enjoy that attention as well. I wonder if he ever stops to wonder if he’s bitten off more than he can chew?
Probably not.

+6

I’ll tell you what. How about the Important Dextrosphere gets together a Committee for the Credentializing of Worthy Bloggers and lets us know who is and isn’t fit to pronounce on these or any other issues, so that we plebes aren’t confused?

+6

Ann is just pointing out the obvious, no one’s keeping anyone from researching PL’s past and recent cons. Nobody.

+7

Oh what a tangled web. If Mr Lemmin is a reformed con and a true conservative. He should bow out of the picture completely. Take the high road and take a hike. This infighting, can only serve to weaken our side. Is one man worth it? Could his continuing voice, possibly nullify the damage being done here and now? Again, is he worth it? I can see the left laughing their asses off over this. Is it worth it? When the enemy of my enemy is no longer my friend, my enemy wins.

+7

cfm900: “If Mr Lemmin is a reformed con and a true conservative. He should bow out of the picture completely. Take the high road and take a hike. ”

I believe he just did.

http://anexconsview.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/after-due-consideration/

+6

“He should bow out of the picture completely”
yeah. he’ll be back.

+8

Dan,
I consider you an important blogger.
So tell me when the meeting is, I never get the invites!

I just e-mailed Lemmen. I told him to do whatever it is he wants to do. It’s a free country.
I don’t think this post was intended to silence him, and I wouldn’t want that to be the point.

Day by day Paul was insinuating himself into this very complicated case. With each endorsement by some pretty heavy hitters one began to wonder if Paul was fully vetted to these people.
If he is and they still embrace him, fine.
I’m not going to harangue people I do not know for whatever they decide to do in life. They may even have the entire thing figured out already and Lemmen was chosen for a reason and we all just screwed the pooch. That’s a possibility. But I have no access to the inner sanctum.

But I find it extremely ironic that the response from the “Lemmen camp” is, “what about Ali?”
Well, what about him?
This story is about vetting Lemmen the same way people want Ali vetted.

I was pissed to learn about Ali’s record through the left. That was a shitty thing for the Committee for the Credentializing of Worthy Bloggers to do.
And I agree, such a committee does exist in spirit, which is not the Breitbart thing to do.
But let’s stay on point.
Lemmen shouldn’t be our endorsed operative fishing around the Kimberlin clan. Paul even knows that.

+9

I seem to have missed the part in this story where he said something untrue about Ali Akbar that caused people to try to shout him down. All of this seems to me a form of ad hominem. By all means, exercise caution; I know I do. But even a confidence man may tell the truth. What then? Shall we tell him to stop?

I’m afraid none of this makes any sense to me.

+5

Thank you to the bloggers who are legitimate. I’ve been so busy trying to survive Comrade Obama’s war on capitalism that I haven’t been very active here, but I’ve been reading and lurking… here and elsewhere. Thanks again.

+7

I’m sorry, Ann, I must have missed this piece. Is there a link? Because what I’m looking at above is educated conjecture, but conjecture nonetheless.

Believe him, don’t believe him as your judgment may move you. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is “shut up” spoken to anyone in the ‘sphere.

You should note that neither I, nor Ladd, nor several of the other people who are protesting defenses of Ali that contain that suggestion ever bothered to post about Ali until someone stepped over that line. If we start rationalizing about who deserves it, we will never have done with compromise.

I have no problem with your stating that Paul shouldn’t be trusted. I think you believe you have excellent reasons for thinking so. By all means, exercise your persuasion. But calling a guy to ask him to lay off someone? That crosses the line, in my opinion, especially in a case that involves the issues this one does.

My understanding was that this was about what Paul said about Ali, and not an invitation to a treatise on epistemological uncertainty.

+3

BFH, Dan, Ann -

Given that Paul Lemmen has stepped away from the story for the good of the story, as the post here seems to suggest and many commenters here have suggested he do, let’s get on to the rest of the story. My thoughts:

http://filmladd.com/?AStepDown

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BFH Said: “With each endorsement by some pretty heavy hitters one began to wonder if Paul was fully vetted to these people.
If he is and they still embrace him, fine.
I’m not going to harangue people I do not know for whatever they decide to do in life. They may even have the entire thing figured out already and Lemmen was chosen for a reason and we all just screwed the pooch. That’s a possibility.”

I have been lurking on this site for many months. I know less than BFH about the teams that the Malkins and the like put into vetting out people that they write about. But I guess that it is not as much as one would think. Everyone has been watching too many movies or too much CSI. It is not that cut and dry when spitting out bleeding edge articles.

BFH, Ann B., and whoever else was involved in the decision to put the facts to light in a very comprehendable (thanks Ann!) and complete (thanks again!) synopsis deserves due credit. I will make up my own mind, thanks so much. Just like you, and you, and (oh yeah!) you.

BFH, I would bet dollars to donuts that you have helped, not hurt, the good cause. Sleep well tonight.

Signed,
One of the hundreds of quiet ones that frequent both IOTW and barnhart.biz

+8

This shit makes me sad.

I like Zilla, I kicked her a few bucks during her dental emergency. Because I have been there. I feel for her because my sister has Lyme disease.

I have read the ex-con blog a few times.

I like Ann Barnhardt, with her 100% on the koranimal issue. Her video series on FGM made me cry like a baby.

I like BFH, have spent many hours enjoying the site.

This AA dude seems shady to me, if he is in charge of money and never disclosed his past.

Then again, I have a child who is a felon and I see how hard it is to move on from that.

This shit makes me sad.

+8

This article was originally published on http://therightplanet.com under the pseudonym of “poisontolibs” on 17 Oct 2011 @ 13:09. I publish it here by permission of the author, Paul H. Lemmen:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=734_1330440693

I posted this to my “armchair blog” on Feb-28-2012. I like the writing, and felt it was worth sharing and giving it more exposure (1169 views to date) and soon after got an e-mail from Ann Barnhardt, which has since been copied and rebroadcast on many blogs warning me about Paul. (Thanks Miss Barnhardt!) It really suprised me to get an e-mail from the very well known Ann Barnhardt at my personal e-mail address. As far as I know, I have never e-mailed Ann and to this day have no idea how she got that e-mail address. It was also odd that I was included with the heavy hitters of the blogosphere (but much appreciated) when I view myself as an insignificant player in this http://WWW.com thing. With all that said, I can see that Paul has all the signs of a classic con-man, and seem unrepentent. Like BFH, it hurts me when someone reaches out to me and I blindly give trust and help to and that trust is violated…it makes me withdraw and be less trusting of others. I suppose this is probably the most upsetting thing about this whole situation. People that are truly deserving of our love, support and help are less likely to get it because of situations like this.

Paul, if your are the man that Ann describes you to be, and I believe Ann, you have hurt many people that are deserving. That is very sad, and almost unforgivable. Somebody here made a comment that you only stole from big corporations and they did not care, so “big deal”….how wrong they are…you are stealing from good hearted people and making us less likely to help others…I wonder how much you cost Zilla?

Please prove me wrong Paul.

+6

Just a note to say I have a comment stuck in the spam filter. If somebody could fish it out I would sincerely appreciate it.

+2

See ‘False flag always an option’ segment of this lengthy article:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47420

+1

I’m sorry, Nice Deb, you are just Deb now, we need to take the “nice” away and give it to Stacy.
Maybe he can just borrow it for a week or two?

+1

I just love a good mystery. Update…infamous felon Paul Lemmen has changed the header on his fantasy conversation. “Correction 6/18/2012 An error was brought to my attention, I double pasted the wrong header information. Here is the correct header:”
http://anexconsview.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/the-email-exchange-with-neal-rauhauser-in-context/

Please note in his “emails” he is now approaching end stage renal failure, AGAIN. Is his death imminent and he will reappear as a Man of the cloth? The writing is on the wall.

Lemmen doesn’t accept donations, but those that staunchly support him are his benefactors…follow the money boys and girls

+6

Ditto Dianna. Newbie at McCain’s and wasn’t getting any Spidey Tingles. Nothing like just getting snuggled in and then wondering if you should be sleeping with the lights on and one eye open. Damn!
That sucks! Ann, very much appreciate the time and effort you put into researching and writing this piece. Obviously we’re human and a very foolable lot in general or our country wouldn’t be in the sorry state it’s in. Now the point’s been made, the right people warned and it’s back to the battle.

+5

Lemmings…what has this world come to when Lemmings can use a computer to blog about politics. Lemmings should just stay in the wild and leave blogging to humans.

http://youtu.be/pDqlZjpSJCc

Oh, Lemmen as in Paul Lemmen….

Nevermind.

+7

Wow, look at all the posters here who I have never seen before. Howdy!

+7

Ok. I just read the poisontolibs thing. He admits it. Fine. You guys were right about that. My bad. I guess I need to apologize to Sard for that. But I ain’t taking my comment about Zilla back: NEVER call someone with as big a heart as Zilla a fool in front of me. EVER.

But I’m still convinced that on the bishop thing, he clearly says in the text ILLICITLY ORDAINED. In my french canadian understanding of english, that means he was ordained by deception and lies.

To RosalindJ
Maybe I am inclined to give my veto to the one who I feel is attacked unjustly. Maybe it comes from my own hardship. That’s for me to see, but thank you for reading ”past the text”. You are kind and respectful.

To Dan Collins
I never read your blog before (I don’t think), but from what I see here you are the most level headed person in this room, along with FilmLadd. Thank you for jumping in.

To BadBrad
Who said I was a street fighter? Don’t put words in my mouth. I said I was a thug and a debt collector. That means going around with a piece or baseball bat and enforcing our turf. Reformed does not mean that my temper doesn’t fly off the handle sometimes and, yes, the urge to hurt someone who disses my bestie (Sard to Zilla) is still there. But being reformed means that while I think about it and say or write it, it doesn’t mean I don’t control the urges. Just like the ex-junkie who can’t stand to see someone else shooting up. Again, if you haven’t been there, you don’t know, and like we say in my neck of the woods, if you don’t know…..then shut the hell up.

To Zilla
You know me the best, and I’m sorry if my comments cause you hardship. You know what I did, you know what I’m about, and you know damn well that someone dissing you in front of me is getting his/her virtual socks knocked off. It caused some of the friendships we had in the past to end, but all in all, you know I’m a good guy. I would eat shit if you told me it was candy. Sorry.

To BFH and Ann

Let me tell you that while you all say it’s not personal and yadi yadi yada, it sure LOOKS personal from this point of view. I know where the real fight is, and let me assure you that I am as right-wing as one can be. I fight that fight every day and am not afraid to poke my nose and get it dirty, all for a big ol 200 views a day and no donations.. Some of the elitist bloggers that compose your circle of friends and the NBC have stolen posts from Paul, and for the NBC minions to come out and tell Paul to withdraw after all the allegations on your PRESIDENT, without even grazing that subject, is indecent. Your followers jumped to the conclusion that I was one of Paul’s many persona. Some of you accused Zilla of being Paul as well. I had only 2 handles in my ”net” life, while Zilla had quite a few. But that doesn’t mean we are not true and honest. Quit trying to dig up dirt where there is none.

My first thought for you 2 was ”WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU??” . Think about that. Really. Who are you to tell a guy to withdraw from a fight? Paul is not the head of anything, unlike Ali Akbar, other than his own blog. And last time I checked, the net is free of censorship, so why would you shut down a voice that has been UP FRONT for the past few months in the fight against Kimberlin? Why? It makes no sense to me that you DON’T look into AA, who collected funds( we don’t know how much, where it went etc etc) and spoke in your name, when the allegations against him are growing by the minute, and the fact that he HAD to disclose his past to run a charity, and failed to do so, getting ALL of us in shit, looking like fools on the other side, while you try to suppress a little blogger who is (for now) fighting the good fight.

Paul put his liberty at stake to dig up what he did. We ALL have to respect that.

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Lemmen, several decades a conman, called out for Ali Akbar to step down from leadership of the National Blogger’s Club, under the guise of Ali’s criminal past, which apparently consists of unknowingly providing transport to a fraudster. Ever read “The Rape of the Lock?” Methinks the conman protests too much.

This is the same conman who posed as a black conservative, who now is calling out for a young black conservative leader who is a massive thorn in the left’s side, not only because he’s intelligent and eloquent, but because he’s black, and has an Arab name. Identity politics are a lefty’s game. Any “conservative” who plays it, is highly suspect, in my opinion.

Lemmen claims that his home was recently photographed, presumably by left wing operatives associated with Kimberlin. As a “black conservative,” he also claimed he was visited by the Secret Service: owntheworld. com/blog /?p=96357 (search on “poisontolibs,” second down). Is the detailed address info Lemmen proffers on his website even accurate? Who knows. Click on my name, to link to a zabasearch that shows a long list of addresses linked to Paul H Lemmen in Florida, all to a man the same age, and none matching the address on his site.

This reeks of the long con…Mr. Lemmen’s brand, btw.

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@Impolite – I’m glad that you took the time to read from Paul’s owm words that he was PTL. What troubles me is that as his friend, and follower of his blog, that you had not read that yourself before this thread, or was even aware of that fact.

I’m not even a blogger, just a reader and commenter, but I read it on Paul’s blog months ago, and I remembered it.

My impression from your comments on this thread is that you are a loyal friend, to a fault. That is a very admirable trait, unless it causes you to put blinders on and limits what you really want to see and know about your friend.

The fact that it took multiple comments on this thread for you to finally dig a little deeper and discover something about Paul that you previously did not know, makes me wonder about what other facts you might be overlooking – subconsiously.

With that in mind, you might want to step back and see the forest for the trees, and realize that Paul’s past history, which continued up until VERY recently (and is very likely continuing to some degree still), is a major liability for those bloggers who are trying to maintain credibility and establish traction in combatting BK and the left’s terrorist tactics.

Paul’s call for AA to step aside is a completely seperate issue from what this thread is about, and shouldn’t be entered in as a defense issue. He’s perfectly within his rights to make that claim and present his case. Quite frankly, nobody is trying to outright silence Paul. But having said that, there is a fine line that divides where one should or should not cross, and Paul crossed it with his pursuit of deeply inserting himself into the SWATting issue.

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I get angry at what people say to. It’s one thing to think it. It’s another to say it. It’s entirely different to type it.

You have time to think, to consider your words, to straighten out your thoughts. No one needs to jump to threats of assault. Talk about counter-productive.

Bottom line this thing and look at it objectively. This Lemmen guy was a con man. He reformed. He conned again. He reformed. He conned again. He reformed. He conned again. He reformed. Are you getting the drift?

When I found Jesus in my life, I reformed. The end. Am I perfect? Do I still make mistakes? Do I still struggle with my old self?

The point is this. Your reputation is everything. Once your tarnish it, it’s tough to turn it around. One of the youth leaders at my church is a reformed addict and criminal. I know a thing or two about trust and forgiveness.

Now that Lemmen’s lost that trust, HE HAS TO EARN IT BACK!! I will not trust someone because you or anyone else tells me to.

The whole “poisontolibs” persona was not that long ago. HE ADMITTED TO IT! Explain how this guy can pose as a black guy and give all these little details of a false life and now we are to just trust him cause he said he was sorry.

Now he has been caught in lies again, recently, after being “reformed”.

Hannah is right. This is stupid. The guy has not proven to be trustworthy. Just because he writes well and blogs well means he should be beyond vetting? The President is said to be a swell public speaker, silver tongue and all that. Let’s just trust him then, right? He must be telling the truth because he says he is.

Lemmen can write and blog about whatever he wants. I can ignore him because I don’t trust him. America is great.

On to other things now. November is not far away…

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Stirring,

I know it may sound idiotic, but, I missed that post on his blog entirely. Why? I couldn’t tell you. Busy with my life, busy with my fighting of leftards? Simply put: I don’t know HOW I missed it.

The whole point of my presence in this debate, is that Paul is not in charge of anything. You don’t NEED to trust him. Really. Paul is only a blogger now, and yes, he did con people. Fact. But to tell him to step out of a fight, to tell him he may ”blurr the image” of credibility of others is just doing the opposite of what you all are saying: Do NOT give him any kind of importance.

From this point of view, it looks like a smear campaign to divert attention from AA. My opinion. It’s as good as anybody’s.

MuddJuice:

I agree that even when I type, I do it ON THE SPOT and with my hot head still boiling. I am passionate about defending the people I call friends, because they are brothers and sisters and they didn’t always have the chance to get a big brother to back ‘em up. Yes sometimes I type with brutal language, and yes it got me in trouble in the past, but I will NEVER back down in a fight to defend my friends….I may take some of it back, but I will still defend my friends, most of whom are underdogs in their life and on the net.

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@ IC

I have no doubt that you are passionate. My point, and Zilla has said as much, is that you don’t attack her other friends who have different opinions about something. That’s the tactic of the left, of the immoral.

Don’t get upset over this. I’m not calling you part of the left or immoral. All I’m saying is, sometimes the best advise we get from friends is the advise that stings because we were wrong and they were right.

Don’t threaten her friends here because they are trying to help her by pointing out that this guy is a fruad and can’t be trusted.

I know this hits home for you being an ex-con and all. But can you agree that most ex-cons go right back to doing the dastardly things they did before they were caught?

I saw Lemmen admit to his lie (poisontolibs) and he told us (specifically jclady) to let him prove himself with his actions. He asked us to judge his conduct from there forward, even though I would have anyway. And then he started lying again.

Take a step back and look at it without emotion for a moment. I’m all about redemption bother. I’ve experienced it myself. I’ve seen what the Grace of Christ can do for people, regardless of their past.

But we are called to be discerning. To judge and choose those we trust wisely. Once they’ve burned us (some of us on multiple occasions), we should be shrewd, at best, and skeptics of the person’s motives.

I think you’re heart is in the right place. But remember, people are allowed to disagree with your friends and when they do, it doesn’t give you carte blanche to threaten them.

Take it as advise. Or leave it, it’s up to you brother…..

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This is my first post here.

I’ve been exploring the blog’s, such as this one and Ann’s. I read about the SWATing story’s and found it horrifying. However I started to question the authenticity of these story’s, after hearing Lemmen’s interview. His claim’s of being targeted (but not yet SWATed) and picture’s of his house being taken by the perpetrators. None asked or did he explained, How he knew this.

Anyways, from a reader’s point of view, regardless of who Lemmen is, damage was done.

Not only don’t we know if this photographing event even took place, if it did, it is only Lemmen’s speculation as to why he was being photographed.
When INSTAPUNDIT links to this story on Lemmen’s site, characterizing it as possibly being part of the SWATting stories, it is MY DUTY to try and inform professor Glenn Reynolds just who he is linking to.
I will not let Glenn Reynolds be embarrassed by Paul Lemmen if Lemmen is concocting a pity-fest.
I know facts about Lemmen that others seemingly do not. I blog those facts. Reynolds makes his choice after that.
-bfh

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Jaded Barrel, are you suggesting that Lemmen’s dubious account discredits those of conservative bloggers who HAVE been SWAT-ing victims? That may have been the intention behind his machinations, but it doesn’t pass the smell test. Several lefty blogs have been trying to spin these events in just this manner? Are you familiar with any of them, perchance?

BTW, Lemmen has now taken to writing about ants, of all things. Or should I say, copying, verbatim, another website’s content on that subject: wildaboutants . com

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First off, Ann never wrote that PL had claimed to be swated. She said that it was the logical evolution of his modus.

Second, If he did pose as a USAF General, then he needs to be arrested, tried, found guilty and hung by his neck until dead.

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I don’t believe for a second that anyone who calls in a fake 911 is going to elude the authorities for long.

They have already collared 911 callers to McDonalds for missing fries in happy meals, and Taco Bell for Chalupa’s with not enough cheese.
Once Holder is out of the D.of social J., these SWATting Sissies will be prosecuted.
The twisted, manipulative nature of these actions mirror the modus operandi of the current libcong regime.
I have no doubt the Jarrett approve’s of it.

keep shining the light on this human excrement.

and Impolite Canadian, I stand corrected.

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Two cents: Ann’s very correct that this is incredibly serious, and tracking down creeps isn’t as easy as it first sounds. TV crime drama makes it seem like it’s the easiest thing in the world for the government to trace calls – all it takes is 30 seconds! Keep the guy on the phone! No. Doesn’t work that way. Can’t fault her for her post or her concern at all.

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Eeesh.

That’s just great news.

AGain I stand corrected.

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not a blogger. read the thread with interest.

my takeaway is that there is a “committee for the credentializing of worthy bloggers”. didn’t know that.

oh. stay away from the lemon.

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Con men know how to select their prey with great precision. Way too many bloggers just love having their insecure narcissistic butts kissed. Sometimes that’s all it takes. Most of you on this thread sound like 13 year olds fighting amongst each other. With the exception of Ann Barnhardt, you’re all pretty pathetic.

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I never read where anyone was demanding/ordering Plemmen to stop writing his opinions about the BK affair or any topic for that matter, those who have asserted this have simply invented a straw man argument.

Concerned bloggers have investigated, vetted, and characterized Plemmen in order to inform the vanguard bloggers on the front lines of the BK/Swatting issue as to who exactly has climbed into the foxhole or trench beside them.

There is a likelihood that a blogger with the character issues of Plemmon will eventually bring some discredit to the fight. Knowing that, the other front-line bloggers can make an informed choice as to whether or not they will link to Plemmen’s blog or cite his work.

This is my objective read on the situation.

Plemmon’s recent decision to act as though the concerned citizens from this comment section have bullied him into silence and chilled his free speech is disingenuous and indicates another tactic in his con, that of hoping to invoke sympathy on a false premise.

He is free to write what he wants about Swatting til the cow’s come home. But as his main aim seems to be garnering attention rather than being an effective team player, the spirit of truth has kicked back in the form of Ms. Barnhardt’s expose, and forewarned is fair warning that Plemmon will inevitably cough up a hairball, bringing disrepute to the movement and fuel the opposition’s fire.

Funny his choice to relegate himself to the study of ants. There is alot to be learned from the study of ants in that they display a masterful balance of individual effort and social responsibility.

God bless

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OK, I’m stepping out on a limb.

Just because the story of what Brett Kimberlin is using 501(c)’s for is going to clean the Augean stables, it’s absolutely vital that the con man get out of the way. If he’s genuinely reformed, he should understand that being an issue in this is a genuine evil. If he’s not – well, does he really want to get entangled in the ongoing disaster?

Most people neither know, nor care, nor should, about non-profit world, its issues and scandals and controversies. Frankly, you’re not going to go far wrong contributing to your church, local animal shelter, or whatever your local cause is, because you’re going to know what they’re up to. But if someone is using non-profit status to scam funders, and then using that funding for illicit purposes, this is a very bad thing. It needs to be stopped.

It’s really important, and some con-artist with ego issues must be excluded. If this shoots this story in the head, this is a disaster for civil governance.

You can treat this with scorn, and I don’t blame people who aren’t in non-profit world. It’s easy to think that the extremely “liberal” foundations are all there is; that doesn’t happen to be so, and many, many foundations exist that do a great deal of quiet good. That’s why it’s so important to root out abuses.

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@DanceOfTheLemmens

“Lemmen’s dubious account discredits those of conservative bloggers who HAVE been SWAT-ing victims?”

No I’m saying this guy was beginning to take a speaker leadership roll in the SWATing incidents and damaging the credibility of this despicable tactic.

The attorney whom had been SWATed and gagged. Has evidence ie..police records. He no longer can speak out. Hence, Lemmings high jacking of the issue. However, with his dubious personal account, causing me (a reader and concerned citizen) to question for a moment the credibility of all of this. Do you see were I’m getting at?

If it was not for Ann, BFH and others. This lemming guy could have done a hell of alot more damage. And yes it could have been used to discredit legitimate bloggers.

This is serious and dangerous. Be careful to whom you elevate.

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Jaded Barrel:

Please accept my apology. I misinterpreted your first post.

I agree with your take, completely.

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No problem DanceoftheLemmens

Didn’t really think you where attacking or being mean.

I don’t write or post much. So deciphering my posts are usually problematic.

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from personal experience, Paul Lemmen is a lying scumbag the world would be better off without.

he has defrauded close personal friends of mine, lied to me and them, and quite possibly would have defrauded me too if i wasn’t such a broke mo’ fo’ most times.

i wouldn’t trust him any farther than i can throw the internet.

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