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Have you seen this ad?

New York Times Anti-Catholic Ad

This was an ad the NY TIMES happily ran for Islam.

The red phone, with one button on it, rang and it was Gellerwoman. “I’m answering this ad.”

This is what we came up with.

Guess what?

The New York Times rejected it.

Here’s the convo Atlas had :

Bob Christie, senior Vice President of corporate communications for the New York Times, just called me to advise me that they would be accepting my ad, but considering the situation on the ground in Afghanistan, now would not be a good time, as they did not want to enflame an already hot situation. They will be reconsidering it for publication in “a few months.”

So I said to Mr. Christie, “Isn’t this the very point of the ad? If you feared the Catholics were going to attack the New York Times building, would you have run that ad?”

Mr. Christie said, “I’m not here to discuss the anti-Catholic ad.”

I said, “But I am, it’s the exact same ad.”

He said, “No, it’s not.”

I said, “I can’t believe you’re bowing to this Islamic barbarity and thuggery. I can’t believe this is the narrative. You’re not accepting my ad. You’re rejecting my ad. You can’t even say it.”

We used the same language as the anti-Catholic ad. The only difference is, ours was true and what we describe is true. The anti-Catholic ad was written by fallacious feminazis.

!snip!

While the legacy media aids and abets jihad, they also marginalize the new media that seeks to expose and correct their shortcomings. And by shortcomings, I mean their dangerous agenda.

GO TO ATLAS or JIHAD WATCH to follow updates.

 

» 65 Comments

  1. RickeyG

    March 13th, 2012

    Amazingly relevant considering Ann Barnhardt’s post yesterday, “Four Things”. I’m sure we can expect a thorough exposé from the other LSM outlets in the next day or two.

    I was a young kid in the 60′s and I have never seen such blatant and obvious polarization of good & evil in this world!

    So, how much are those double barreled .45′s?

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  2. grayscape

    March 13th, 2012

    Why does Bob Christie HATE women so much that he doesn’t care if they are regularly raped, beaten, and stoned to death?

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  3. MaryfromMarin

    March 13th, 2012

    You and Pamela rock!

    The NYT, on the other hand…”now would not be a good time”??? So when would be a good time? After the establishment of the world-wide caliphate?

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  4. reliapundit

    March 13th, 2012

    brilliant.

    and courageous!

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  5. plemmen

    March 13th, 2012

    What everyone above me said. Plus I stole the story from Pam’s site and linked it from mine. Your artwork makes it a rock-em sock-em article!

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  6. GruntOfMonteCristo

    March 13th, 2012

    Awesomeness! I wish I could click 70 times on Mary’s response to Pamela above. And BTW, the answer to Mary’s last question is ‘yes.’ Of course. Bastards.

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  7. FenelonSpoke

    March 13th, 2012

    Freedom from Religion Foundation are absolute weenies when it comes to liberals; The vast majority of liberals are.

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  8. FenelonSpoke

    March 13th, 2012

    Whoops; Meant weenies when it comes to ISLAM.

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  9. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 13th, 2012

    While there may be some degree islamo-bias in the NYT, I believe that they are truly intimidated by threat of violence and/or economic boycott.

    I saw a fascinating interview of a former KGB agent who described how Marxism is imposed on a nation. Part of the strategy is the alegiance with a goon/violent nation/ideology – Hitler was that for Russia, and is-phucking-lam is that for the Marxist that are permeating our government and culture.

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  10. It's me on a different browser.

    March 13th, 2012

    Ooooh I just can’t wait until we burn homosexuals alive and throw acid in women’s faces. Shariah is going to be a hoot!

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  11. BigFurHat

    March 13th, 2012

    So is it time? Is it time for Christians and Jews to burn down the NY Times?

    The Times is counting on the fact that that will never happen.

    Whose fault is that?

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  12. serfer62

    March 13th, 2012

    Terrorism wasn’t intended to cower the mass of people but the influencal few. The following are the true cowards
    MFM
    Hollywood
    Politicans
    Judges
    General/Admirals
    All of DC
    The poltical Establishment

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  13. BigFurHat

    March 13th, 2012

    Islam wasted its fucking money.
    They should have just passed this ad off to an editorial writer and they would have gladly run the thing.
    It’s what they think anyway.

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  14. It's me on a different browser.

    March 13th, 2012

    I know this won’t be nice to say but I think the terrorist hit the wrong buildings. The NY Times building needs a big bullseye target in their roof.

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  15. BigFurHat

    March 13th, 2012

    Don’t think the conversation of being murdered hasn’t come up. It has. (I’m the one who brings it up all the time because Pamela has balls of titanium.)

    The saddest, saddest, but true, reality is, not only would people not care, some would applaud it. And then it will be forgotten.
    But Sandra Fucking Fluke gets a call from the president.

    A squeaker on election day won’t do it, people.
    No more of this moderate turn out.
    No more of this “American Idol getting more votes than the presidency.”

    If we do not see the media reporting that day that there is a phenomenon happening, that the polls are being overwhelmed with ANTI-Obama voters, that every city is rising up to make a referendum on eradicating the threat of this “transformation” of America, that this is an emphatic statement, then we are done. Period.

    You take off that day and you make phone calls to your friends and family. “I’m coming to pick you up. We’re going to vote. I’ll be there in ten minutes.”
    Then you do it again. And again.
    You do it for early voting.
    You call someone and ask them to take you to early voting, even if you have a car!!!! Because if they are taking you they will vote too.

    I’m not shitting here.
    This is it, folks.

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  16. The Looking Spoon

    March 13th, 2012

    This guy can be reached on twitter… @NYTPRGUY

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  17. The Looking Spoon

    March 13th, 2012

    This will take you straight to him…

    https://twitter.com/#!/NYTPRGUY

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  18. TooMuchTime

    March 13th, 2012

    Why doesn’t the liberal media evolve a backbone, stand up on their own hind legs, and speak out against islam?

    Because it so closely mimics their favorite form of government — socialism. They see no difference between the two; not even the murder of innocents, since to a socialist, there is no such thing. You either accept socialism or you will be re-educated. For a socialist, anyone that speaks out against it gets death by matriculation. Same as islam; if you speak out against it, you are put to death as a heretic.

    It’s just that socialists are better at euphamism than the islamic jihadi butchers.

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  19. plemmen

    March 13th, 2012

    BFH, it’s the lasp gasp of a deluded, braindead and apathetic nation. The 10-12% that really are patriots must then stand up against tyranny and use whatever means are at their disposal.
    Remember, The Irish Republic came into being because less than 6% of the male population stood up and fought for it.

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  20. MaryfromMarin

    March 13th, 2012

    @BFH–

    I hope that Pamela has a bullet-proof vest of titanium, too. You might look into one yourself.

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  21. Callmelennie

    March 13th, 2012

    The cartoonist who drew that anti-Catholic cartoon is none other than the Arizona (People’s) Republic resident Marxist POS, Steve Benson. The hate this guy has for conservatves is just amazing. He’s so eaten up wth it, he was far more outraged by the retaliatory killing of one Sikh on 9-14-01 in Mesa than he by 9-11 itself. I kid you not; it came through loud and clear in a cartoon he drew

    This guy’s been offending AZ Republic readers like that for 20 years. He’ll go too far, and the readership will explode in outrage; then the Republic will put him under wraps for a while and then set him loose again and the retard will once again go over the top — then they’ll cover for him again

    And after many iterations of this, the Republic is a shell of it’s former self in terms of circulation but Benson goes on. Liberals must be insane; I know Benson is.

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  22. Tracy

    March 13th, 2012

    Not voting is a vote for more of this shit.

    The NYT is garbage.

    NObama2012!

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  23. Raysebiz

    March 13th, 2012

    BFH I’m ready to volunter to drive people to vote.Start the wheels in Motion I will be calling in sick Election day. Sick of this Asshole in Chief

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  24. BigFurHat

    March 13th, 2012

    The silent majority cannot stay silent any longer.They went back to sleep after Reagan.

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  25. Bob M.

    March 13th, 2012

    FUCK MOHAMMEDANS & the NY Times they rode in on. :x

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  26. Mr. Pinko

    March 14th, 2012

    This is why Pamela Geller is my hero.

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  27. Stop Obama or GestapObama

    March 14th, 2012

    That piece of anti-Catholic, anti-religious agitprop was vile. These NYT folks are really delusional Marxist revolutionaries.

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  28. The Doktor

    March 14th, 2012

    Yes, Catholics should quit – - – the New York Times. But, and we all know this to be true, Liberal Catholics are NOT Catholics. In Reality, the two cancel each other out.

    Great work, Pamela!! You make us all proud!

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  29. Anonymous

    March 14th, 2012

    Hmmmmm. I’m confused. We have an ad contending that it’s time to “leave the Catholic church” with (all the damn pedophiles). Ok. I’m for that.

    Another ad that says we have to get “real” about Islam and it’s abuse and subjugation of women. Ok. I’m for that one, too.

    Now, could someone do an ad about all the nutjob evangelicals voting for “social conservative” Santorum, who believes you can’t separate church and state and that the American taliban should rule and that all American women should be treated like birthing ovens, forced to birth, even against their will.

    Come on, Fur! Do that one, will ya?
    …Lady in Red

    PS: BTW, I can’t imagine anything less non-medically necessary than the viagra industry. Come on, guys! Keep your knees locked and if you can’t get it up, *don’t* get it up: it ain’t necessary (unless, of course, the game is to force women to becoming the pregnant end of your genetic joke.) And, of course, if birth control pills ain’t medically justifiable (and I don’t much care), there is certainly NO justification for medical insurance subsidized Viagra. Just kinda goes to the heart of the sexism though, doesn’t it?

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  30. JMac

    March 14th, 2012

    The Islamic leanings of the NYT. They’ll attack Catholics with impunity while coddling Muslims. They know full well that Catholics won’t truck bomb their building.

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  31. JMac

    March 14th, 2012

    LIR, You become ready to birth when you let Jimmy mount.

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  32. MNHawk

    March 14th, 2012

    Well, no I didn’t see that as I’m not dumb enough to believe anything the JournoFrauds at the NY Times write. Those that are dumb enough to read that, and feed the beast are indirectly responsible for tens of millions dead.

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  33. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    JMac…. *Toooo* funny! Are you a Neanderthal…?
    Or what…? Do you knuckles drag the ground? Do you grunt, in mono-syllables? Too funny!

    You just keep your knees locked, boy! The world doesn’t need any more little JMac’s!

    (And I bet you got a big stash of Viagra — cause men like you need the stuff.) …Lady in Red

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  34. [...] Mr. Christie said, “I’m not here to discuss the anti-Catholic ad.” [...]

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  35. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    @LIR – I wasn’t aware that the federal government made insurance coverage of Viagra mandatory. When did that happen?

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  36. The Doktor

    March 14th, 2012

    “Hmmmmm. I’m confused. We have an ad contending that it’s time to “leave the Catholic church” with (all the damn pedophiles). Ok. I’m for that.”

    Well, then, I guess all of the American children should leave public schools since pedophiles in “education” FAR outnumber pedophile priests. I’m for THAT!

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  37. The Doktor

    March 14th, 2012

    OH, and I forgot to mention since someone might have forgotten – The American Educational system is mostly ALL LEFTISTS. And a total LACK of morals or standards seems to be a trait with Leftists. In fact, it’s pretty much a huge part of the Leftist “religion” (along with all that “free” stuff they keep demanding).

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  38. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Good one, The Doktor! I vote for destroying the
    leftist teacher unions, blowing up the present
    public education system and starting over.

    But, just because there are sickos in the public
    schools, doesn’t mean we should tut-tut at the priests and the Catholic “church.” That system has been more corrupt, for a longer period of time than the public schools, ever.

    And. Just because, like Geller and Fur, I advocate pulling the lid off the media hypocrisy surrounding “sacred” and “respected” Islam doesn’t mean I want to replace it with an American taliban forcing women to birth — against their will.

    Or, stoning ‘em to death, which is usually next on the agenda of moralistic evangelical nutjobs.
    ….Lady in Red

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  39. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    @LIR – you are way out in right field with your bizarro rant of an American taliban and women being forced to birth.

    Nobody has said contraception should be banned, and you know it. The dispute is that insurance coverage is made mandatory by the federal government – it’s about control and being subjugated by an overeaching government.

    Stoning to death by moralistic evangelic nutjobs? You’ve clearly had a bad experience or two with a man. Sorry for ya – hope the right one comes along.

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  40. mkultra

    March 14th, 2012

    For what it’s worth LIR, this evangelical Christian doesn’t want to stone you. Your post-menopausal abortion OCD and asinine commenting style are much too entertaining to do without. Welcome back!

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  41. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Stirrin the B.S……It continues to amaze me how
    clearly many on the right see the danger of Islam, of the weird stuff in public schools and the Catholic church.

    But, abortion should be illegal. Say what?

    Women who do not wish to birth are tossed back to dark alleys and coat hangers. (In Virginia they’ve just passed legislation forcing a woman to have an MRI before she may have an abortion. Can you say Very Expensive Guilt Trip…?)

    Now, there’s a silly brouhaha over who’s going to pay for birth control pills. But medical insurance pays for jerko (who is probably too old anyway…) to have his $5/pill Viagra.

    This is about the imposition of one moral code on another person. It’s the long slippery slope to stoning women. There are good people who feel differently about issues concerning “forced” childbirth. The nutjob evangelicals have no right to shove their fists in the faces of others, any more than do Muslims. Period. Everybody “talks” to the “only God” who explains the “truth” to them. More and more the evangelical nutjobs are more annoying: they have more education, access to information, world opinion, etc. But, they are right of the cusp of American taliban — and they haven’t a fucking clue! At least the Afghans live in caves, don’t have birth certificates…

    AND, before you get off on the sanctity of life shit, deal with PETA. *Their* God says that animals are sacred too. And, let’s unlock the doors of all the animal shelters and SPCA facilities. Nuts? Well. I think *you* are nuts.

    There are folk who will never allow a dog or cat to be “put to sleep.” Cool. I can, even, respect that. It’s when the evangelical nutjobs decide no woman can have an abortion and let’s make it tough for her to get birth control (and I do NOT care about that issue) but the man/boys get their Viagra. And, if/when there are problems caring for the little infant hordes the evangelical nutjobs will sit around going tut-tut-tut: what an awful mother she is! We should lock her up.

    None of that kind of thinking solves problems.

    The point is we think differently. …Lady in Red

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  42. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    Wow, you’ve got a lot of pent up anger in you.

    You talk about a slippery slope – what about when the woman wants desperately to have a girl, but the healthy baby growing inside of her is a boy? So she says, I want re-do. Hey, abortion is legal. What difference does my reason for having it make?

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  43. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Why, thank you, MKUltra! It’s been a tough ride.
    Momsy’s on the edge now, mentally (I think she’s just decided to not bother, go to sleep…) I got the job of cleaning the house for Ole Pops, who is getting nastier by the day. (I found $6K Momsy had stashed in a guest bedroom wrapped around a love letter Ole Pops wrote, before they were married. Mostly, it’s a letter from a horny boy, trying to score a trophy girl. Poor Momsy never understood.)

    My brothers, mostly, are dealing with my mother’s health. And, finally, Ole Pops has announced that he is leaving his estate to the University of Pittsburgh, which did so much for him. Yuck.

    Film at 11! smile… Lady in Red

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  44. A

    March 14th, 2012

    Islam, I thought the religion of big government would have made a better remake. Like the catholic church is trying to take BC away from people. They don’t have the power to do so, right now if you want it and will pay for it you can have it PERIOD. If the big government religion has its way everyone will be required to be on BC. They would have that power like forcing pap smears yearly to get the BC! That’s what I want more of the government up my snatch poking around! sarc

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  45. A

    March 14th, 2012

    Lady in Red:

    Viagra treats other valid medical conditions similar to the way birth control pills are used to treat reproductive issues.

    “Viagra, for example, is a triple threat — it’s most commonly used to treat erectile dysfunction and is FDA-approved to treat pulmonary hypertension, but it can also be used to increase blood flow as a way to avoid amputations. And now, researchers may have found yet another use for the extremely popular drug: to help treat prostate cancer when used in combination with another cancer drug.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MensHealth/viagra-top-multi-drugs/story?id=11738009#.T2Dz-xzTg6A

    So all being the same, what are you squawking about?

    I was born middle class have been working poor since then and I never in my 20 years of menstration have ever had a problem suppling myself with contraceptive, never been pregnant, so if I can do it, so can any/all other american woman.

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  46. Michael W Perkins

    March 14th, 2012

    Stirrin The BS, I believe this is the guy:

    Yuri Bezmenov:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHRgTskEhE

    http://youtu.be/_Iz3VjoHXLA

    http://youtu.be/5gnpCqsXE8g

    The last one is over an hour & very insightful.

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  47. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Yeh, Mr. B.S…. *Good* point!

    “…what about when the woman wants desperately to have a girl, but the healthy baby growing inside of her is a boy? So she says, I want re-do. Hey, abortion is legal. What difference does my reason for having it make?”

    That’s what I’d say, B.S: dump it. Same thing you’d do to a puppy you couldn’t house break: off to the SPCA for an “injection.”

    Here’s another for you: Is God so powerful he can make a rock so big he can’t lift it? Duh! Hahahaha. Dumb joke. Just like yours.

    The point is simply that evangelical nutjobs are hypocrites. Viagra is good….? why don’t you just keep your knees locked and treat your “other” medical problems another way? Birth control pills are *also* useful for a myriad of other medical purposes. You know?

    It’s just the hypocrisy. Islam is rotten for shoving their religion down the throats of others, but when *you* do it it’s because you know what the “real” God believes. And, *you* know that The Real God doesn’t believe puppies are sacred like the damn fetus you want to force women to bear. Because *you* and The Real God are tight!

    Stupid unthinking hypocrites. I’m sure there are at least thousands, if not millions, of sanctimonious evangelicals who’ve drowned sacks and sacks of new born kittens but who get all gushy over the “miracle” of an unwanted fetus.

    Even weirder: if the mother a/o father of “the unwanted fetus” turns out to be less than an average idiot parent, you are willing to pony up your tax dollars to lock ‘em up and guard ‘em and give ‘em three squares a day for the rest of their lives. But before they win that prize, you force ‘em to birth. Is that weird? Who wins that game?

    Do you do it just for the sense of superiority, the fun of making disdaining clucking noises about “those awful parents?” …Lady in Red

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  48. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    So Ms LIR, you would kill the baby that doesn’t meet your criteria, in favor of producing one that matches your desired end-result.

    I believe Hitler and Mengele wanted to do just the same thing. You, Maam, are in very fitting company.

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  49. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Arghhh! Ah, ya got me, my B.S. mate!

    Here’s more: I actually think that Margaret Sanger was a great woman, with more brains, insight, humanity, love — and hard work — than any of the gloating evangelical nutjobs who sit in front of their tv’s watching the colors change while pratting about wondrous moral superiority.
    …Lady in Red

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  50. Frosteetoes

    March 14th, 2012

    Oh geez…LIR, I sympathize for your family situation but find it odd that you would come here to take out your frustration. If you’re already not in therapy you should seek it out. I’m not sure if anyone here is qualified to give you the mental help that you need, for free anyway. Internet drama might seem like a good diversion from reality but it’s not going to help you thru dealing with the issues stressing you out. So, kick back, play some soothing tunes and smoke a joint or not. God our Creator is in charge. Pax

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  51. mkultra

    March 14th, 2012

    After re-reading your comments, LIR, it’s become clear that you have daddy issues. Is that why you can’t get off unless you’re dominating a weak man?

    I strongly suspect Momsey is not the only woman in your family to be ‘on the edge mentally’.

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  52. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    You make me laugh, MKUltra: “dominate a weak man?” Tooo-ooo funny. You haven’t a clue, Pet….

    Thanks, Frosty: Peace to you, also.

    I just like banging at cocoanuts, here. One of these days I’ll make a dent, with someone. smile…. …..Lady in Red

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  53. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    Here, MKUltra: This Bud’s for you (apropos of not much of anything):

    The Hiaku is written in response to a picture of a Japanese etching: man with feet in water, woman, touching softly, behind. Now, what’s the other form:

    Languid, lissome flesh
    embraces water and air.
    Time hurtles. Night comes.

    Warm water, touching
    gently, toes, almost akin.
    Wanted: white skin.

    White skin, warm water
    Touching gently, toes glancing
    Against a new love.

    White skin, frigid toes
    Warm touch from calm woman.
    Scared. Touching gently.

    I had a love,
    now, above me.
    The dove’s away.

    The sin’s akin
    to white skin crime:
    The gin matters.

    If I could feign
    a rain drain pain,
    then, brains would show.

    Enjoy! ….Lady in Red

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  54. The Doktor

    March 14th, 2012

    Sheesh! Anyone believing one word of that piece of shit LiR is dumber than it is. It’s all a scam, lie, canard, obfuscation, and plain bull shit made to garner whatever sympathy there is to be had while spinning and twisting Logic and Reality to keep people busy.

    Daddy issues? Just plain crazy-ass Leftist issue.

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  55. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    @LIR – Margaret Sanger had more brains, insight, humanity and love? You got to be kidding me. She provided nothing more than a means (abortion) to achieve physical self-gratification without consequence.

    There was nothing intelligent, insightful loving about her – unless you are prepared to admit that she wanted to keep stupid people from procreating.

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  56. mkultra

    March 14th, 2012

    Here’s a haiku dedicated to you, LIR. (you’re welcome):

    You write from the heart.
    It is a very dark place.
    We all want to puke.

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  57. Lady in Red

    March 14th, 2012

    MKUltra: your meter is wrong:

    It’s
    5
    7
    5

    I had a wrong meter, also. Here’s revised:

    White skin, frigid toes
    Warm touch. Quiet, calm woman.
    Scared. Touching gently.

    Every day, you seem less and less and less “nice.”
    ….Lady in Red

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  58. mkultra

    March 14th, 2012

    Don’t be coy, LIR. You don’t come here to be “nice” either. You’ve expressed contempt for most of us at one time or another.

    Every day, you seem less and less “sane”.
    …mkultra

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  59. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 14th, 2012

    @LIR – I’m waiting for a response to my last comment, even though my gut tells mr that you don’t have one.

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  60. jclady

    March 14th, 2012

    C’mon folks. Don’t feed the red tide.

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  61. Lady in Red

    March 15th, 2012

    Stirrin’ the B.S…..

    I don’t know what to say: you are wrong, to force your views of morality on women. Period.

    Yep. If a woman didn’t want a baby — for any reason — by me, it’s ok. Better that: than the alternative.

    Think of pups and kittens in the SPCA. (Evangelicals don’t like this image, but it is important: life’s there, and, mostly, about to be offed, injected….

    (In many ways the death of puppies and kittens hurt *me* more than the elimination of fetuses: I know, I know: little heart beats…. puppies, kittens are alive….

    ….BUT not sacred, in the Bible!

    I know. I know.

    You “talk” to the Real God. Not me.
    …Lady in Red

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  62. Lady in Red

    March 15th, 2012

    Stirrin the B.S.

    …At least: thank you, so much, for
    asking. ….smile.. …Lady in Red

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  63. Lady in Red

    March 15th, 2012

    Oh dear.

    Liking Frosty? And MKUltra? Yep. (Both are smarter than — I think — their world view.)

    I be workin’ on it. …Lady in Red

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  64. Stirrin the B.S.

    March 15th, 2012

    @LIR – this will be my last comment to this thread.

    It’s all about the physical self-gratification of sex. There is nothing wrong with that, if you are willing to accept the consequences of the act.

    But, you can’t have the pleasure without the consequences. If you want to to prevent it on the front end (prophylactic), that’s fine, but killing the natural result after the act, is entirely different.

    If you don’t want a baby, use contraceptives or abstain from sex. But if you choose to have sex, don’t kill the baby because you forgot to take your recreational pill.

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  65. Lady in Red

    March 15th, 2012

    Mr. B.S…..

    I do not disagree with you, at all. Can we talk about Viagra…. not for “young” men…? Are men willing to “accept the physical consequences of sex….?” We ain’t talking about you, B.S. We are talking about “men.” Do they do that? Worry about the “physical consequences?”

    I understand the Bible-thumphing. I do not understand the reality.

    …Lady in Red

    PS: Outlaw Viagra!

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